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Ivan Shmakov

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Apr 17, 2013, 12:53:40 PM4/17/13

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>>>>> cipher <cip...@nospamforme.org> writes:

[Cross-posting to news:comp.internet.services.wiki and setting
Followup-To: there. Even though Wikipedia "is not a wiki."]

[...]

>>>> Most Usenet forums are considered pure text...

>>> First, git, its not Usenet, its The USENet.

>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet> ----- Usenet is a worldwide
>> distributed Internet discussion system. -----

> Anyone quoting or believing in wikipedia has already lost.

Not only I've used Wikipedia (almost four of them, by this time)
numerous times, -- I've even recommended my students to do the
same. (For the few years I was an instructor, anyway.)

It's as reliable as an encyclopedia could be these days.

(And no, I'm /not/ advocating in favor of referencing /any/
encyclopedia whatsoever in a scientific paper.)

PS. Why, I even edit Wikipedias from time to time. Check, e. g.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov

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Apr 17, 2013, 1:55:03 PM4/17/13

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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:53:40 +0000, Ivan Shmakov Inscribed upon the Golden
Tablets of Usenet thusly:

>>>>>> cipher <cip...@nospamforme.org> writes:
>
> [Cross-posting to news:comp.internet.services.wiki and setting
> Followup-To: there. Even though Wikipedia "is not a wiki."]
>
> [...]
>
> >>>> Most Usenet forums are considered pure text...
>
> >>> First, git, its not Usenet, its The USENet.
>
> >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet> ----- Usenet is a worldwide
> >> distributed Internet discussion system. -----
>
> > Anyone quoting or believing in wikipedia has already lost.
>
> Not only I've used Wikipedia (almost four of them, by this time)
> numerous times, -- I've even recommended my students to do the
same.
> (For the few years I was an instructor, anyway.)

This probably explains why you're no longer an instructor...

> It's as reliable as an encyclopedia could be these days.
>
> (And no, I'm /not/ advocating in favor of referencing /any/
> encyclopedia whatsoever in a scientific paper.)

WP is simply not accepted for *any* serious work. Period.
It is OK for grade school book reports however...

> PS. Why, I even edit Wikipedias from time to time. Check, e. g.:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov
> http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov
> http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov

What a waste of time, contributing to a worthless endeavor such as WP.

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Ivan Shmakov

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Apr 17, 2013, 3:07:04 PM4/17/13

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>>>>> cipher <cip...@nospamforme.org> writes:
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov Inscribed upon the Golden Tablets of Usenet thusly:
>>>>> cipher <cip...@nospamforme.org> writes:

[Dropping all but news:comp.internet.services.wiki from
Newsgroups: as non-appropriate.]

[...]

>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet> ----- Usenet is a worldwide
>>>> distributed Internet discussion system. -----

>>> Anyone quoting or believing in wikipedia has already lost.

>> Not only I've used Wikipedia (almost four of them, by this time)
>> numerous times, -- I've even recommended my students to do the same.
>> (For the few years I was an instructor, anyway.)

> This probably explains why you're no longer an instructor...

Actually, it doesn't. (FWIW, I was never employed in such a
capacity full-time.)

>> It's as reliable as an encyclopedia could be these days.

>> (And no, I'm /not/ advocating in favor of referencing /any/
>> encyclopedia whatsoever in a scientific paper.)

> WP is simply not accepted for *any* serious work. Period. It is OK
> for grade school book reports however...

Wikipedia is a useful source of information, and links. Period.
It is /not/ OK for a would-be B. Sc. not to know something in
his or her field which's stated in the respective Wikipedia
article. (And, alas, I've seen the examples...)

>> PS. Why, I even edit Wikipedias from time to time. Check, e. g.:

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov
>> http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov
>> http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov

> What a waste of time, contributing to a worthless endeavor such as
> WP.

I'm yet to see a researcher who doesn't make notes on the topics
he or she delves into. Integrating such a note into a Wikipedia
article may be a worthwhile experience by itself; and, if done
by more than one person, may be helpful to them all.

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