why I cant submit my site on Altavista ?

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Mario Desiderio

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May 23, 2001, 5:14:47 PM5/23/01
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Hello,

I am trying to submit my site:

www.sodicar.it

on altavista search engine but it tells me:

You have entered the following URL:
http://www.sodicar.it

We could not connect to the host at this time.

This page is no longer valid.
The page, if already indexed, will be removed from the index.

I think the reason is that www.sodicar.it
is actually redirected to:

http://217.59.62.222/default.asp

Could you please tell me how can I solve this problem ?

Thanks,

Mario Desiderio

Jukka K. Korpela

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May 24, 2001, 11:36:41 PM5/24/01
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Mario Desiderio <ma...@flashnet.it> wrote:

> I am trying to submit my site: - -
> on altavista search engine but it tells me: - -


> This page is no longer valid.
> The page, if already indexed, will be removed from the index.

You have posted the question twice to a mixture of groups, _none_ of which
is really suitable for it (so typical of massive crossposting), and some of
which are nonexistent. Followups set to the group where the question looks
least off-topic to me.

This what happens in a simple connection (something that more or less
corresponds to what AltaVista does):

Trying 212.131.31.102...
Connected to www.sodicar.it.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 404 Object Not Found
Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 03:05:16 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 102

<html><head><title>Error</title></head><body>The system cannot find the
file specified. </body></html>Connection closed by foreign host.

> I think the reason is that www.sodicar.it
> is actually redirected to:
>
> http://217.59.62.222/default.asp

The reason is that it is _not_ redirected.

Well, on a _browser_ one gets redirected, but this demonstrates that
browsers aren't the same as the WWW.

Are you perhaps trying to do some browser-sniffing on the server, rejecting
"old" or "not welcome" browsers with 404? Or is the IIS server just
misconfigured not to honor simple HTTP requests?

Apparently the latter:

Trying 212.131.31.102...
Connected to www.sodicar.it.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.1
Host: www.sodicar.it

HTTP/1.1 302 Object moved
Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 03:19:22 GMT
Location: http://217.59.62.222/default.asp
(etc.)

That is, the server responds with temporary (!) redirect when the client
talks HTTP/1.1 to it but with "not found" when the client talks HTTP/1.0.

The server needs fixing badly. The URLs of the site are now probably being
removed from the data bases of search engines. It will take quite some time
to get them back there after fixing the problem. The problem needs to be
solved locally, by someone who can access the server settings and knows
what to do with them. If he thinks that asking on Usenet will be of some
use, then the best group is probably
comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows

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Rodney Payne

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Jun 2, 2001, 11:38:05 PM6/2/01
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Stop redirecting do a ghost redirect so it does not change url


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Tony Morgan

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Jun 3, 2001, 3:41:09 AM6/3/01
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In article <thjc92t...@corp.supernews.com>, Rodney Payne
<d...@intersolution.net> writes

>Stop redirecting do a ghost redirect so it does not change url

What is a 'ghost' redirect?
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Tony Morgan Atomor Web Ltd
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http://www.atomor.co.uk

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