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Steve Mitchell

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Dec 20, 1993, 1:56:10 PM12/20/93
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I'm trying to install NCSA Mosaic version 1.0 on a 486 which
has PC-NFS 5.0 installed. PC-NFS has been installed properly
and has been providing Internet access for several months.
The PC-NFS documentation says that the WINSOCK.DLL included
with PC-NFS is 1.1 compatible.

When I attempt to connect to an html with from the Starting
Points menu in Mosaic, it says "Error Num -1" Could not
connect. I do not know what I could be doing wrong here..

Can anybody offer any advise?

Thanks.

--steve
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Richard Wolff,108,392,5772291

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Dec 20, 1993, 4:39:10 PM12/20/93
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From article <CICKL...@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU>, by ste...@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU (Steve Mitchell):
>
> ...

> The PC-NFS documentation says that the WINSOCK.DLL included
> with PC-NFS is 1.1 compatible.
>
> When I attempt to connect to an html with from the Starting
> Points menu in Mosaic, it says "Error Num -1" Could not
> connect. I do not know what I could be doing wrong here..

That happened to me. PC-NFS isn't set up to do DNS, so you are likely only
looking for the host in your (PC) local hosts table. Add the particular
host that the URL calls for into your host table and try again. Worked
for me...except that, of course, this sort of idiocy is not useful for
surfing much more than your local pond.

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Shawn

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Dec 21, 1993, 1:00:09 PM12/21/93
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I'm having a problem myself, getting Mosaic to work on my system. Using
Novell 3.11, dedicated "Network SLIP" to the internet (I can FTP & Telnet
with no problems using the Novell TNVT220.EXE and FTP.EXE programs). Yet
when I try to run TCPMAN, it tells me "unable to load TCP" (even though
TCP is ALREADY loaded). Using the Shareware "Trumpet Winsock" driver.

Trying to use Mosaic to access anything gives me an error -1 trying to
access Http's, -2 access Gophers, and -3 accessing FTPs.

Here's a clip from the Winsock Screen - I turned all possible tracing on
to see what was happening, and can't make heads nor tails out of it.. Can
anyone please assist?

******************
Trumpet Winsock Version 1.00 Alpha #17
Copyright (c) 1993 by Peter R. Tattam
All Rights Reserved.
Error - Unable to locate WINPKT or PKTDRV virtual packet driver
WSAStartup(257,11D7:E916)
gethostbyname www.ncsa.uiuc.edu
IPQ in 0 free 0
gethostbyname www.ncsa.uiuc.edu
WSAIsBlocking

************************

I can make the "Unable to locate WINPKT" error message go away by setting
it to the SLIP connection in SETUP, but it still gives me the "unable to
load TCP" error.

Everything is in the PATH or the Windows directory itself, so I'm
completely baffeled. :)

Tired of fighting with it. :/

Happy Holidays!

Shawn

Chris Wilson

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Dec 22, 1993, 3:55:49 PM12/22/93
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In article <southernC...@netcom.com> sout...@netcom.com (Shawn) writes:
>I'm having a problem myself, getting Mosaic to work on my system. Using
>Novell 3.11, dedicated "Network SLIP" to the internet (I can FTP & Telnet
>with no problems using the Novell TNVT220.EXE and FTP.EXE programs). Yet
>when I try to run TCPMAN, it tells me "unable to load TCP" (even though
>TCP is ALREADY loaded). Using the Shareware "Trumpet Winsock" driver.
>...

>I can make the "Unable to locate WINPKT" error message go away by setting
>it to the SLIP connection in SETUP, but it still gives me the "unable to
>load TCP" error.

You shouldn't use the Trumpet Winsock if you already have Novell's networking
running. You should contact Novell for their WinSock (which may still be in
beta) and use that. Trumpet is for going straight to the hardware (well,
straight to the packet driver/SLIP connection, anyway.)

-Chris Wilson
NCSA Mosaic for Windows Development Team
cwi...@ncsa.uiuc.edu

RUSSELL THAMM

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Dec 23, 1993, 5:29:55 PM12/23/93
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In article <southernC...@netcom.com> sout...@netcom.com (Shawn) writes:
>From: sout...@netcom.com (Shawn)
>Subject: Re: Help with NCSA Mosaic for Windows..
>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 18:00:09 GMT

>************************

>Happy Holidays!

>Shawn

If I understand correctly, you are trying to run Trumpet WinSock on top
of LWP. That certainly won't work. You can't load two TCPIP stacks at the
same time.

What you need is either LWP + LWP Winsock or Trumpet Winsock. You can't
have both (not easily at least). Mosaic will run on either configuration.

LWP Winsock is available from sjf-lwp.sjf.novell.com as are some upgraded
LWP programs you need to support it.

Hope this Helps
Merry Christmas

Shawn

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Dec 28, 1993, 11:13:44 AM12/28/93
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RUSSELL THAMM (r...@gwd.dsto.gov.au) wrote:

: If I understand correctly, you are trying to run Trumpet WinSock on top

: of LWP. That certainly won't work. You can't load two TCPIP stacks at the
: same time.
: What you need is either LWP + LWP Winsock or Trumpet Winsock. You can't
: have both (not easily at least). Mosaic will run on either configuration.
: LWP Winsock is available from sjf-lwp.sjf.novell.com as are some upgraded
: LWP programs you need to support it.

Thankee, Russell, that WAS the answer! I had a version of WinSock.Dll and
WlibSock.Dll, but apparently they were too old to be of any use, and
that's what was causing the problems. :) (Tried the Novell one after the
Trumpet one, which didn't work either. :D) The one from the FTP site
works great tho, so thankee very much, and happy hollardays to you, too! :)

Shawn

Beth Towell

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Jan 4, 1994, 11:39:29 AM1/4/94
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I am having a strange MS Windows problem and do not think it is an FAQ.

> I have installed Mosaic for Microsoft Windows on a 486 PC running
> Windows 3.1. I have configured the mosaic.ini file and added it
> along with mosaic.exe to a windows subdirectory called wmos.
> In the windows directory I have winsock.dll from novell. I have added
> a mosiac icon to my network applications group to run the executable.
>
> When I try to run Mosaic, it gives me the message "this program
> requires Microsoft Windows". I AM running mosaic from Windows
> not DOS.
>
> I have talked to Microsoft about this problem. They are asking...
> what file(s) is Mosaic looking for to detect the presence of Windows?
> I have successfully installed other Windows software but I do have
> one other piece of software which is not recognizing
> that Windows is running. We tried to install Mosaic on another PC
> on campus and had the identical problem.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Elizabeth Towell, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor of
> Operations Management and
> Information Systems
> Northern Illinois University
> m10...@hayek.cob.niu.edu

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