an alternative to Homesite?

[ge...@invalid.invalid]

Hello

I have been using Homesite 5.5 for a long while and wonder what
alternatives people are using.

I do not wish to move to Dreamweaver - partly because of the high
cost.

I find one of the most useful aspects of Homesite is its ability to
find and replace large chunks of code. Does any of editor do this?

Of couse good css handling would be welcoem.

Cheers

Geoff

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

On 2011-11-10, ge...@invalid.invalid wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have been using Homesite 5.5 for a long while and wonder what
> alternatives people are using.

What is Homesite?

> I do not wish to move to Dreamweaver - partly because of the high
> cost.

That's not the only reason, surely.

> I find one of the most useful aspects of Homesite is its ability to
> find and replace large chunks of code. Does any of editor do this?

If you need to replace large chuis of code, you should probably be
using SSI.

> Of couse good css handling would be welcoem.

--
Chris F.A. Johnson
<http://torontowebdesign.cfaj.ca/>

[Adrienne Boswell]

ge...@invalid.invalid wrote

I've been using HTML-Kit for years, went from the free version 292 to the
paid HTML-Kit Tools.

1. FTP
2. CSS hints (I still prefer a full CSS editor like TopStyle)
3. Search and replace over a whole site or multiple folders
4. User Snippets with prompt if desired
5. User Templates with prompt if desired
6. Matching brackets *
7. Syntax coloring for many languages including HTML, PHP, SQL, ASP, etc.
8. Spell check
9. Beautify for PHP (nice!) *
10. Tons of plugins
11. Preview server side (in multiple devices *)
12. Spell check
13. Tidy
14. W3 validator
15. Fantasic image picker *


The version 292 is the older version and is fine, but I prefer the new
version Tools. There is a trial version of Tools, and I highly recommend
it. Support is terrific as the program's author has both web based and
news based support with both he and users able to answer questions.

Have a look: http://chami.com/html-kit/tools/

* only in Tools.
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Please respond to the group so others can share

[ge...@invalid.invalid]

Thanks Adrienne and others - will take a look at all the suggestions.

Cheers

Geoff

[masonc]

I've never understood why everybody isn't using EditPlus
http://www.editplus.com/

--
masonc

[Manuel Collado]

Perhaps because it is not free? ;-)

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[Denis McMahon]

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:57:20 +0100, Manuel Collado wrote:

> El 11/11/2011 10:31, masonc escribió:
>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:33:31 +0000, ge...@invalid.invalid wrote:
>>>
>> I've never understood why everybody isn't using EditPlus
>> http://www.editplus.com/
>
> Perhaps because it is not free? ;-)

Looks like bluefish with a price tag. Try bluefish instead.

http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html

Rgds

Denis McMahon

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

It's not available for my OS.

[dorayme]

In article <7qa0p8-...@cjlocal.ca>,

"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I've never understood why everybody isn't using EditPlus
> > http://www.editplus.com/
>
> It's not available for my OS.

Probably not for mine either. But it *does* have available an FAQ
in Polish.

--------

A Polish immigrant went to the DMV to apply
for a driver's license. First, of course,
he had to take an eye sight test. The
optician showed him a card with the letters:
'C Z W I X N O S T A C Z.' "Can you read
this?" the optician asked. "Read it?", the
Polish guy replied, "I know the guy!"

--
dorayme

[Osmo Saarikumpu]

On 10.11.2011 10:27, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:

>> On 2011-11-10, ge...@invalid.invalid wrote:
>> I have been using Homesite 5.5 for a long while and wonder what
>> alternatives people are using.

> What is Homesite?

http://en.lmgtfy.com/?q=Homesite

> If you need to replace large chuis of code, you should probably be
> using SSI.

The SS in SSI is for Server Side. No use in this context.

I recommend PSPad:

http://www.pspad.com/

Very useful out of the box. Highly configurable. Free. Alas, needs Windows.

Follow-up set to:

comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc

--
Best wishes,
Osmo

[tlvp]

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:28:58 +1100, dorayme wrote:

> ... But it *does* have available an FAQ
> in Polish.

Wspaniały :-) ! Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

[ge...@invalid.invalid]

I do have pspad thanks. All the editors mentioned so far seem to have
a single line box for entering any code which is to be replaced.
Homesite has a large box so you see all the lines which you enter ...

Cheers

Geoff

[ge...@invalid.invalid]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:33:31 +0000, ge...@invalid.invalid wrote:

Ah! Just found CuteHTML which has the large box for find/replace!

Cheers

Geoff

[Evertjan.]

wrote on 13 nov 2011 in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:

> I do have pspad thanks. All the editors mentioned so far seem to have
> a single line box for entering any code which is to be replaced.
> Homesite has a large box so you see all the lines which you enter ...

Only the ones metioned, indeed.

Editpad has a search[/replace]-box thay accomodates all wishes,
can even be taken from the window into a seperate window.
These functions are regexable, if you wish.

Sometimes I use it fullscreen on my second monitor.

Editpad Lite is free, maybe enough for your needs.
<http://www.editpadlite.com/>
Editpad Pro is even better.
<http://www.editpadpro.com/>

--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

[dorayme]

In article <envub7p8s0uv1ndam...@4ax.com>,

ge...@invalid.invalid wrote:

> Ah! Just found CuteHTML which has the large box for find/replace!

I recall asking one of the creators of a highly regarded Mac text
editor to make various windows and fields more generous or
allowing users to simply enlarge them at will. He seemed not to
understand such a simple suggestion and babbled back about many
workarounds (involving cutting and pasting). It was on a usenet
group which he had come onto for a particular thread. He
suggested I put my suggestion in more officially.

I never bothered considering the incomprehension and
defensiveness I saw before my eyes to the simplest and most
reasonable of suggestions. What is it with some guys and small
fields, what *are* they trying to prove?

--
dorayme

[tlvp]

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:43:56 +1100, dorayme asked:

> ... What is it with some guys and small
> fields, what *are* they trying to prove? ...

I don't think it's a "guys" thing -- it's just that
some designers feel that screen real estate is such a rare commodity,
it should be conserved as much as possible.

That also helps explain the innumerable web sites using fixed 6px
or even 4pt fonts -- legibility be damned, lets just be sure to get
all our copy crammed into this little corner of the screen :-) .

'Zat help explain it? Cheers, -- tlvp

[dorayme]

In article <xf7my7pa1whp.8s3a3hm8duv3$.d...@40tude.net>,

tlvp <mPiOsUcB...@att.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:43:56 +1100, dorayme asked:
>
> > ... What is it with some guys and small
> > fields, what *are* they trying to prove? ...
>
> I don't think it's a "guys" thing -- it's just that
> some designers feel that screen real estate is such a rare commodity,
> it should be conserved as much as possible.

Yet some of the same designers think nothing of having huge
banners, unnecessarily large picture, and more than merely
aesthetic margin spaces. When I become ruler of the world, now
made just a touch more likely that so many dictators and PMs have
vacated the general field lately, it will be against the law, my
law goddamit, to be miserable about text input fields.

--
dorayme

[tlvp]

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:18:12 +1100, dorayme wrote:

> In article <xf7my7pa1whp.8s3a3hm8duv3$.d...@40tude.net>,
> tlvp <mPiOsUcB...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:43:56 +1100, dorayme asked:
>>
>>> ... What is it with some guys and small
>>> fields, what *are* they trying to prove? ...
>>
>> I don't think it's a "guys" thing -- it's just that
>> some designers feel that screen real estate is such a rare commodity,
>> it should be conserved as much as possible.
>
> Yet some of the same designers think nothing of having huge
> banners, unnecessarily large picture, and more than merely
> aesthetic margin spaces.

Yup; there's just no accounting for bizarro aesthetics, is there?

> ... When I become ruler of the world, now

> made just a touch more likely that so many dictators and PMs have
> vacated the general field lately, it will be against the law, my

> law goddamit, to be miserable ...

"miserable"? or "miserly"?

> ... about text input fields.

After all, it's *their* being /miserly/ there that makes *you* /miserable/
:-) .

Cheers, and go easy on the scoff-laws, please, -- tlvp

[dorayme]

In article <178ddqsyl9ltd$.rt7gtup9...@40tude.net>,

tlvp <mPiOsUcB...@att.net> wrote:

>
> "miserable"? or "miserly"?

Either will do though yours might be more accurate.

--
dorayme

[ge...@invalid.invalid]

On 13 Nov 2011 10:43:06 GMT, "Evertjan."

<exjxw.ha...@interxnl.net> wrote:

> wrote on 13 nov 2011 in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:
>
>> I do have pspad thanks. All the editors mentioned so far seem to have
>> a single line box for entering any code which is to be replaced.
>> Homesite has a large box so you see all the lines which you enter ...
>
>Only the ones metioned, indeed.
>
>Editpad has a search[/replace]-box thay accomodates all wishes,
>can even be taken from the window into a seperate window.
>These functions are regexable, if you wish.
>
>Sometimes I use it fullscreen on my second monitor.
>
>Editpad Lite is free, maybe enough for your needs.
><http://www.editpadlite.com/>
>Editpad Pro is even better.
><http://www.editpadpro.com/>

Thanks - will take a look.

Cheers

Geoff

[ge...@invalid.invalid]

On 13 Nov 2011 10:43:06 GMT, "Evertjan."
<exjxw.ha...@interxnl.net> wrote:

> wrote on 13 nov 2011 in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:
>
>> I do have pspad thanks. All the editors mentioned so far seem to have
>> a single line box for entering any code which is to be replaced.
>> Homesite has a large box so you see all the lines which you enter ...
>
>Only the ones metioned, indeed.
>
>Editpad has a search[/replace]-box thay accomodates all wishes,
>can even be taken from the window into a seperate window.
>These functions are regexable, if you wish.
>
>Sometimes I use it fullscreen on my second monitor.
>
>Editpad Lite is free, maybe enough for your needs.
><http://www.editpadlite.com/>
>Editpad Pro is even better.
><http://www.editpadpro.com/>

'had a try now and can see how to move the search area to its own
window but it still is just a 1 line box - am I missing something?!

Geoff

[Evertjan.]

Yes you are,
you can enlarge the search end replace boxes or sub-window at libitum.

A very small height will convert from a vertical to a horizontal division
of the boxes.

[ge...@invalid.invalid]

On 14 Nov 2011 09:07:57 GMT, "Evertjan."

<exjxw.ha...@interxnl.net> wrote:

> wrote on 14 nov 2011 in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:
>
>> On 13 Nov 2011 10:43:06 GMT, "Evertjan."
>> <exjxw.ha...@interxnl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> wrote on 13 nov 2011 in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets:
>>>
>>>> I do have pspad thanks. All the editors mentioned so far seem to have
>>>> a single line box for entering any code which is to be replaced.
>>>> Homesite has a large box so you see all the lines which you enter ...
>>>
>>>Only the ones metioned, indeed.
>>>
>>>Editpad has a search[/replace]-box thay accomodates all wishes,
>>>can even be taken from the window into a seperate window.
>>>These functions are regexable, if you wish.
>>>
>>>Sometimes I use it fullscreen on my second monitor.
>>>
>>>Editpad Lite is free, maybe enough for your needs.
>>><http://www.editpadlite.com/>
>>>Editpad Pro is even better.
>>><http://www.editpadpro.com/>
>>
>> 'had a try now and can see how to move the search area to its own
>> window but it still is just a 1 line box - am I missing something?!
>
>Yes you are,
>you can enlarge the search end replace boxes or sub-window at libitum.
>
>A very small height will convert from a vertical to a horizontal division
>of the boxes.

Got it!

Thanks

Geoff

[Dr J R Stockton]

In comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html message <dorayme-
03CE12.074...@c-50-133-29-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net>, Mon, 14 Nov
2011 07:43:56, dorayme <dor...@optusnet.com.au> posted:

In Firefox 8.0, and possibly earlier, textareas have a dragger at bottom
right. There's probably some way of stopping it, hopefully not too easy
to find. The minimum monospace size appears to be 1*1 characters.

Current Safari & Chrome also have one, but it only expands the box.

Not IE8 or Opera, though,

I edit with PFE, which is old. One of my criteria for choosing a new
editor is that I want the outside of its window to be only slightly
wider than its editing area, so that I can edit readable 80-column
source in the left half of my screen and see readable results in the
right-hand half. Notepad and Wordpad are, in this respect, good
examples.

FYI, I have written a simple WYSIWYG(bnitsw) editor; the core of its
code is pv.innerHTML = IP.value executed every 200 ms.

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Website <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
PAS EXE etc. : <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see in 00index.htm
Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

[dorayme]

In article
<PoMszdJL...@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid>,
Dr J R Stockton <repl...@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
...

>
> In Firefox 8.0, and possibly earlier, textareas have a dragger at bottom
> right. There's probably some way of stopping it, hopefully not too easy
> to find. The minimum monospace size appears to be 1*1 characters.

There is an add-on I sometimes use with FF, called "It's All
Text".

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/its-all-text/>

It appears as a button at the bottom right of text fields and on
clicking, you get a big plain window you can type away in, when
done you save and it appears in the form on the webpage.

--
dorayme

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

On 2011-11-15, dorayme wrote:
> In article
><PoMszdJL...@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid>,
> Dr J R Stockton <repl...@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> ...
>>
>> In Firefox 8.0, and possibly earlier, textareas have a dragger at bottom
>> right. There's probably some way of stopping it, hopefully not too easy
>> to find. The minimum monospace size appears to be 1*1 characters.
>
> There is an add-on I sometimes use with FF, called "It's All
> Text".
>
><https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/its-all-text/>
>
> It appears as a button at the bottom right of text fields

I disabled the button, and use Ctrl-E (the key is configurable, I
think) to call up...

> and on clicking, you get a big plain window you can type away in,

...whatever text editor you told it to use.

> when done you save and it appears in the form on the webpage.


--

[dorayme]

In article <koo8p8-...@cjlocal.ca>,

"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2011-11-15, dorayme wrote:
> > In article
> ><PoMszdJL...@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid>,
> > Dr J R Stockton <repl...@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > ...
> >>
> >> In Firefox 8.0, and possibly earlier, textareas have a dragger at bottom
> >> right. There's probably some way of stopping it, hopefully not too easy
> >> to find. The minimum monospace size appears to be 1*1 characters.
> >
> > There is an add-on I sometimes use with FF, called "It's All
> > Text".
> >
> ><https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/its-all-text/>
> >
> > It appears as a button at the bottom right of text fields
>
> I disabled the button, and use Ctrl-E (the key is configurable, I
> think) to call up...
>

The button is fine by me, one less key combo to remember, have
too many in my mind for actions in Illustrator, Photoshop,
Fireworks. Whenever I have to remember a new one, I forget the
name of one of my closest family members, like a daughter...

> > and on clicking, you get a big plain window you can type away in,
>
> ...whatever text editor you told it to use.

Ah yes, I must have given it the plainest one I have. In fact it
is so plain that I think it must be Amish.

--
dorayme