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Q.: Is this what XHTML can do for us?

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tlvp

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Dec 31, 2011, 3:08:40 PM12/31/11
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Stumbled across a page, today, that steadfastly re-tailors itself to be as
useless as possible:

<http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/18/how-to-use-your-cdma-cellphone-as-a-usb-modem/2>.

Firefox 3.6.25 never gets more than 4/5ths of the way through digesting its
code, to judge by the green progress bar, and leaves the viewport entirely
blank.

FF does get the entire (X)HTML data, though, as ViewSource reveals.

IE7 loads it OK, and then chooses to reload it, and fails. Probably the
jscript coming after the closing </body></html> tags, that attempts to
cause a page reload :-) .

Haven't tried in any other browser, as the HEAD sections browser-testing
seems to be dedicated only to tailoring the page to an instance of IE.

Please tell me this is *not* what web page design is converging to ... !

Cheers, -- tlvp
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Jonathan N. Little

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Dec 31, 2011, 3:28:14 PM12/31/11
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tlvp wrote:
> Stumbled across a page, today, that steadfastly re-tailors itself to be as
> useless as possible:
>
> <http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/18/how-to-use-your-cdma-cellphone-as-a-usb-modem/2>.
>
> Firefox 3.6.25 never gets more than 4/5ths of the way through digesting its
> code, to judge by the green progress bar, and leaves the viewport entirely
> blank.


May be you should update FireFox is currently at 9.0.1

<http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/>

But since the page loads just fine in Firefox's old ancestor Mozilla 1.0
of 2002 vintage I think your problem is somewhere with your system
rather than Firefox.




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dorayme

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Dec 31, 2011, 3:50:39 PM12/31/11
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In article <jdnr93$5rj$1...@dont-email.me>,
"Jonathan N. Little" <lws...@gmail.com> wrote:

> tlvp wrote:
> > Stumbled across a page, today, that steadfastly re-tailors itself to be as
> > useless as possible:
> >
> > <http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/18/how-to-use-your-cdma-cellphone-as-a-usb-
> > modem/2>.
> >
> > Firefox 3.6.25 never gets more than 4/5ths of the way through digesting its
> > code, to judge by the green progress bar, and leaves the viewport entirely
> > blank.
>
>
> May be you should update FireFox is currently at 9.0.1
>
> <http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/>
>
> But since the page loads just fine in Firefox's old ancestor Mozilla 1.0
> of 2002 vintage I think your problem is somewhere with your system
> rather than Firefox.

Probably OP had slow connection, I can imagine it taking ages on
dial-up. But just a few secs, 10 at most here on Safari or FF8...
FF updated to 9 since you mentioned it.

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Dec 31, 2011, 4:20:50 PM12/31/11
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tlvp wrote:

> Stumbled across a page, today, that steadfastly re-tailors itself to be
> as useless as possible:
>
> <http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/18/how-to-use-your-cdma-cellphone-as-a-
usb-modem/2>.
>
> Firefox 3.6.25 never gets more than 4/5ths of the way through digesting
> its code, to judge by the green progress bar, and leaves the viewport
> entirely blank. ....

Works for me as well .. Fx 8 and Opera 11.something.

dorayme probably has the answer, as I remember you mentioning your entry-
level DSL connection, was it 768 kbps max? Maybe it's a bad day for your
Telco. With my 13 Mbps cable, that page snaps right up, complete. The
page is image-heavy and those tutorial pics aren't optimized.

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tlvp

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Dec 31, 2011, 5:35:37 PM12/31/11
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:08:40 -0500, tlvp wrote:

> Stumbled across a page, today, that steadfastly re-tailors itself to be as
> useless as possible:
>
> <http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/18/how-to-use-your-cdma-cellphone-as-a-usb-modem/2>.
>
> Firefox 3.6.25 never gets more than 4/5ths of the way through ...
> IE7 loads it OK, and then chooses to reload it, and fails. ...

Thanks, all: I'll content myself with looking at the page I render from my
ViewSource page_scrape-up :-) . Yes, my DSL is pokey ... but IE7 really
*does* start to display it all, then clears the screen, attempts to reload
it all, and fails, complaining, 404-style: "Site not Found".

David E. Ross

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Dec 31, 2011, 9:47:09 PM12/31/11
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The page loads and displays okay with SeaMonkey 2.6.1, which uses the
same rendering engine as Firefox 9.0.1. However, it has 687 XHTML
errors and 660 CSS errors. With that kind of garbage, I'm surprised I
was able to view the page.

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tlvp

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Jan 1, 2012, 5:17:11 PM1/1/12
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:47:09 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:

> On 12/31/11 12:08 PM, tlvp wrote:
>>
>> <http://www.engadget.com/2005/01/18/how-to-use-your-cdma-cellphone-as-a-usb-modem/2>.
>>
>> Please tell me this is *not* what web page design is converging to ... !
>
> The page loads and displays okay with SeaMonkey 2.6.1, which uses the
> same rendering engine as Firefox 9.0.1. However, it has 687 XHTML
> errors and 660 CSS errors. With that kind of garbage, I'm surprised I
> was able to view the page.

Imagine how the poor browsers of 2005 (for which the page was originally
intended) must have been shocked, perplexed, and baffled by it :-) .
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