RFD: comp.infosystems.hyperg
Gerald Mesaric
unmoderated group comp.infosystems.hyperg
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RATIONALE:
This group is proposed for discussion of various aspects of the
Hyper-G information system. Hyper-G is a second-generation networked
hypermedia system which is now becoming increasingly popular. Although
there is a mailing list available for Hyper-G, many users prefer to
discuss their ideas and projects within a newsgroup. Also, a newsgroup
will be able to reach more and different people willing to take a part
in the evolution of Hyper-G.
Although Hyper-G is in many respects similar to the WWW and in fact
could be seen as a very powerful implementation of it, it is different
in many ways. It supports structured hypermedia, links in arbitrary
document types, a separate link database, integrated search
functionality, link consistency, authoring clients, multilinguality,
and much more. Therefore, we anticipate that the issues discussed will
be somewhat different from what is discussed in comp.infosystems.www.*
newsgroups, which - in our opinion - justifies a separate newsgroup.
Currently (August 1995), there are about 100 installations of Hyper-G
servers world-wide, the mailing list (hyp...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at) has
about 340 members. More information on Hyper-G can be found under
http://hyperg.iicm.tu-graz.ac.at/Chyperg.
CHARTER: comp.infosystems.hyperg
The Hyper-G newsgroup will focus on:
- development of Hyper-G
- extensions to Hyper-G
- the relation between Hyper-G, Gopher and the WWW
- announcements of new software and sites
- information providing and authoring with Hyper-G
- structuring large amounts of data on the Web
- electronic publishing and hypermedia applications in general
- new ways for hypermedia user interaction and interfaces
(e.g. VR navigation and authoring tools)
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This message initiates a discussion period to consider the creation of
an unmoderated newsgroup comp.infosystems.hyperg. Discussion will take
place on news.groups. If discussions are made in other newsgroups,
they should always be cross-posted to news.groups.
*** This is NOT a call for votes ***
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DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups Creation,
and has been cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups:
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comp.infosystems.www.misc, comp.infosystems.harvest,
comp.publish.electronic.developer
The RFD will also be posted to the Hyper-G mailing list:
Name of proponent(s) -- Gerald Mesaric, Frank Kappe
IICM, Graz University of Technology
Name of mentor(s) -- Richard Miller, Baylor College of Medicine
Michael Klemme
: REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
: unmoderated group comp.infosystems.hyperg
I'd like to support the formation of this new group.
HyperG is a information system with great future potentional.
It will hopefully play a role in future projects on electronic publishing
and computer supported learning.
Matters of interest are now discussed on a mailing list maintained by the
IICM in Graz, the traffic on this list is considerable high. This list is
mostly used for the discussion of technical problems of HyperG.
Occasionaly, requests by interested people appear on the newsgroups related
to information systems (comp.infosystems.*, de.comm.infosystems) and have to
be directed into the right channels by a kind person.
Gruesse
Michael
--
Michael Klemme
FB 17 Informatik, AG Informatik und Gesellschaft
Universitaet-Gesamthochschule Paderborn, Germany
Tel. ++5251-60-3594 EMail: kle...@uni-paderborn.de
Michael Handler
unmoderated group comp.infosystems.hyperg
Newsgroups line:
comp.infosystems.hyperg The Hyper-G network hypermedia system and applications.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 Nov 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Please address any
questions about the proposal to the proponent.
Proponent: Gerald Mesaric <gmes...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at>
Votetaker: Michael Handler <han...@sub-rosa.com>
RATIONALE: comp.infosystems.hyperg
This group is proposed for discussion of various aspects of the
Hyper-G information system. Hyper-G is a second-generation networked
hypermedia system which is now becoming increasingly popular. Although
there is a mailing list available for Hyper-G, many users prefer to
discuss their ideas and projects within a newsgroup. Also, a newsgroup
will be able to reach more and different people willing to take a part
in the evolution of Hyper-G.
Although Hyper-G is in many respects similar to the WWW and in fact
could be seen as a very powerful implementation of it, it is different
in many ways. It supports structured hypermedia, links in arbitrary
document types, a separate link database, integrated search
functionality, link consistency, authoring clients, multilinguality,
and much more. Therefore, we anticipate that the issues discussed will
be somewhat different from what is discussed in comp.infosystems.www.*
newsgroups, which - in our opinion - justifies a separate newsgroup.
Currently (August 1995), there are about 100 installations of Hyper-G
servers world-wide, the mailing list <hyp...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at> has
about 340 members. More information on Hyper-G can be found under
http://hyperg.iicm.tu-graz.ac.at/Chyperg.
CHARTER: comp.infosystems.hyperg
The Hyper-G newsgroup will focus on:
- development of Hyper-G
- extensions to Hyper-G
- the relation between Hyper-G, Gopher and the WWW
- announcements of new software and sites
- information providing and authoring with Hyper-G
- structuring large amounts of data on the Web
- electronic publishing and hypermedia applications in general
- new ways for hypermedia user interaction and interfaces
(e.g. VR navigation and authoring tools)
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Michael Handler
unmoderated group comp.infosystems.hyperg passes 175:16
There were 175 YES votes and 16 NO votes, for a total of 191 valid votes.
There were 3 abstains and 8 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
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comp.infosystems.hyperg passed on Tue Nov 14 07:55:29 1995
Newsgroups line:
comp.infosystems.hyperg The Hyper-G network hypermedia system and applications.
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 22 Nov 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Please address any
questions about the proposal to the proponent.
Proponent: Gerald Mesaric <gmes...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at>
Votetaker: Michael Handler <han...@sub-rosa.com>
CHARTER: comp.infosystems.hyperg
The Hyper-G newsgroup will focus on:
- development of Hyper-G
- extensions to Hyper-G
- the relation between Hyper-G, Gopher and the WWW
- announcements of new software and sites
- information providing and authoring with Hyper-G
- structuring large amounts of data on the Web
- electronic publishing and hypermedia applications in general
- new ways for hypermedia user interaction and interfaces
(e.g. VR navigation and authoring tools)
END CHARTER.
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comp.infosystems.hyperg Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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10057...@compuserve.com Laurent DAVERIO
1wei...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de Harald Weinreich
a...@rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de Achim Bohnet
ag...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Angela Grim
aja...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at ASTRID JANCKE
alan....@ukonline.co.uk Alan Ralph
a...@nsharra.snafu.de Agon S. Buchholz
asch...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Achim Schneider
ava...@glasswings.com.au Andrew Pam
ban...@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Arno Zeiser
ba...@cs.auckland.ac.nz Barry Fenn
bc...@fiicm1pc24.tu-graz.ac.at Bin Cui
birgit.s...@uni-klu.ac.at Birgit Schroeder
b...@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
bma...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Bernhard Marschall
b...@cs.auckland.ac.nz Bob Doran
br...@enme.ucalgary.ca Brad Stephens
BUCH...@s16pm1.mhsg.ac.at Bernhard Buchreiter
bu...@dragon.klte.hu Robert Nemkin
buf...@cs.uml.edu John Buford
Burkhar...@Mathematik.Uni-Magdeburg.DE Burkhard Thiele
bzbd...@ufer.ZIB-Berlin.DE Michael Doerrschuck
cde...@piis11.joanneum.ac.at Christian Derler
c...@sime.com Christian Ekhart
cfe...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Christian Fessl
chr...@cs.auckland.ac.nz Chris Anderson
chr...@cs.auckland.ac.nz Chris Burns
Christian...@Inf-Technik.TU-Ilmenau.DE Ch. Schroeder
chu...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Christian Huber
cier...@wias-berlin.de Thomas Cierzynski
cla...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Cameron Laird
cl...@Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE Claus Neubronner
cl...@columbia.edu Christopher Lodge Stamper
clw...@glink.net.hk Wallace Chung Leung Wong
comp...@cybercomm.net Leigh Koven
cp...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Christian Promitzer
cu...@vaw.baum.ethz.ch Bernard Cuche
D.J.B...@ukc.ac.uk Dave Beckett
dad...@austin.ibm.com Darin Davis
dal...@ZIB-Berlin.DE Wolfgang Dalitz
da...@mr.insa-tlse.fr David 'Doc' Chancogne
d...@sime.com Dietmar Bayer, MD
dbal...@ix.netcom.com Don Ballard
dc...@cftnet.com Dave Cell
dean...@netcom.com Dean Wallraff
dela...@iniki.gsfc.nasa.gov J-F Pitot de La Beaujardiere
die...@Graphics.CS.Uni-Bonn.DE Dieter Fellner
d...@best.com Duane T. Mun
duc...@esp1.grenoble.hp.com Frederic Ducros
dup...@unantes.univ-nantes.fr Yann Dupont
dwe...@timeshare.service.emory.edu M. David Weingarten
D...@langley.softwright.co.uk Derek W. Pearce
erik....@cs.kuleuven.ac.be Erik Duval
Erwin....@dlr.de Erwin Bartels
Espe...@hd.uib.no Espen S. Ore
es...@fstgds06.tu-graz.ac.at Georg Essl
f548...@mbox.tu-graz.ac.at Erich Leitner
fka...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Frank Kappe
frie...@rz.uni-greifswald.de Hans-Rudolf Frieling
fst...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Franz Strohmayer
fst...@umac.mo Robert P. Biuk-Aghai
gbc...@clipper.ssb.com Gary B Crofton
ge...@bfi-stmk.or.at Gert Niederdorfer
Gerd....@physik.uni-regensburg.de Gerd Boehm
Gerhard....@mail.esrin.esa.it Gerhard Triebnig
glei...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at GABRIELE LEITNER
gmes...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Gerald Mesaric
gna...@ihm.tu-graz.ac.at Guenter Nagler
gol...@bedvgm.kfunigraz.ac.at gollner andrea
gp...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Gerhard Pail
gp...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Gerald Pani
g...@aixterm1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Lutz Nuecker
gros...@charly.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Kai Grossjohann
harald.k...@iic.wifi.at Krottmaier Harald
Hartmu...@KirchGruppe.DE Hartmut Wolf
herber...@rz.fh-regensburg.d400.de Herbert Kopp
hgsy...@dvibm2.gkss.de Waldemar Gibisch
h...@hhdo.do.home.venture.net Henning Holtschneider
hki...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Helmut Kirchsteiger
hlei...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Helmut Leitner
h...@informatik.uni-rostock.de HOLGER MEYER
hmue...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Helmut Muelner
hub...@netbsd.warped.com Hubert Feyrer
hug...@afp.com Hugues Lafarge
ijac...@chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk Ian Jackson
in...@mwe.hvr.scn.de Ingo Macherius
iv...@troll.hz.kfa-juelich.de Ivar Ruyter
ja...@matematik.su.se Jan Snellman
jfa...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Joerg Faschingbauer
jkle...@pobox.com Joel Klecker
J...@langley.softwright.co.uk Jon Vyse
j...@freestyle.tu-graz.ac.at Josef Moser
jol...@squeaky.free.org Joseph Olson
jon...@io.org Trevor Tymchuk
jonny.a...@ft.dep.telemax.no Jonny Axelsson
jos...@cis.ohio-state.edu Sudish Joseph
jsc...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Juergen Schipflinger
jtc...@sandia.gov Jeff Cummings
kand...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Keith Andrews
kap...@ikaros.Mathematik.Uni-Mainz.DE Matthias Kapffer
kle...@uni-paderborn.de Michael Klemme
kli...@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Christian Klingler
kra...@dent.ii.fmph.uniba.sk Milos Kravcik
ksc...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Klaus Schmaranz
ktru...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Karl Trummer
kuss...@Graphics.CS.Uni-Bonn.DE Andreas Kusserow
La...@rz.tu-clausthal.de Gerald Lange
le...@microsoft.com Lee Fisher
l...@svl.trw.com Lew Lee
lip...@unix-ag.uni-kl.de Dietmar Lippold
list-...@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schr"oder
lu...@umes07.avl.co.at Anil Luthra
M.B.St...@Manchester.AC.UK Mark Stephens
magd...@cs.auckland.ac.nz Magdalene Woo
mar...@gmd.de Juergen Marock
ma...@piis05.joanneum.ac.at Harald Mayer
mbh...@afs.mcc.ac.uk Anand Buddhdev
mbh...@afs.mcc.ac.uk Muditha Gunatilake
me...@mwe.hvr.scn.de Andreas Meyer-Weidlich
me...@offis.uni-oldenburg.de Jochen Meyer
mg...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Gaisbauer Mansuet
Michael...@risc.uni-linz.ac.at Michael Pichler
m...@boombox.micro.umn.edu Mark P. McCahill
mpr...@emory.edu Michael Prein
mwda...@uiuc.edu Michael W. Daniels
n...@nataa.frmug.fr.net Nat Makarevitch
nel...@ix.netcom.com Ken Nelson
new...@mail.erols.com Raye Newmen
nshe...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Nick Scherbakov
o.ca...@ic.ac.uk Omer Casher
oka...@emory.edu C. Oliver Kappe
ora...@flinux.tu-graz.ac.at Gerbert Orasche
papr...@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca Paul Prescod
pet...@cs.auckland.ac.nz Peter Mikl
pete...@notredame.ac.jp Greg Peterson
pko...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Peter Kogler
psa...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Peter Sammer
psr...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Parthasarathy Srinivasan
py...@grove.iup.edu Matthew Schnierle
R.B...@infosys.tuwien.ac.at Robert Barta
RAN...@shark.stmarys.ca Robert N. Ansell
rh...@ultranet.com Rick Labonte
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
rled...@cas.org Bob Ledwith
rol...@spinnaker.rhein.de Roland Rosenfeld
rstu...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Robert Stubenrauch
ruf...@mbe.ece.wisc.edu J. Rufinus
ru...@tpa.cst.titan.com Russ Pridemore
scha...@Graphics.CS.Uni-Bonn.DE Stephan Schaefer
sch...@techinfo.rwth-aachen.de Michael Schmitt
sch...@wias-berlin.de Michael Schwarz
sh...@emanon.net Dan "Shag" Birchall
shao...@vrinet.com Sumera Shaozab
siet...@ng-wj.dfn.de Richard Sietmann
si...@lia.di.epfl.ch Simon Leinen
sl5...@e45-hrze.uni-duisburg.de Thomas Alders
Som...@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Stefan Sommer
spe...@ZIB-Berlin.DE Dr. Wolfram Sperber
s...@bibsys.no Stig S. Bakken
svil...@keops.utp.ac.pa Samuel Villamonte
tay...@gb.swissbank.com Nick Taylor
tdie...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Thomas Dietinger
thum...@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Peter Thumfort
tk...@softlab.ece.ntua.gr TASOS Koutoumanos
t...@uniserve.com Tom Samplonius
trib...@wias-berlin.de Rudolf Tribiahn
tsw...@cas-inc.com Terry L Sweet
Tudor.J...@risc.uni-linz.ac.at Tudor Jebelean
vmayr...@sztms.tu-graz.ac.at Vanessa Mayrhofer
vol...@icg.tu-graz.ac.at Till Vollmer
we...@minet.uni-jena.de Weissenburger, G./IVS MATH&INF Uni-Jena
wo...@icg.tu-graz.ac.at Peter Wolf
wo...@cs.tu-berlin.de Wolfram Schneider
wsc...@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at Walter Schinnerl
zah...@ist.unimas.my Zahran Halim
Voted No
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and...@babylon.riverside.ca.us Andrew Tristan
csa...@urc.tue.nl Michiel Wijers
har...@merlot.arc.nasa.gov Ted Hardie
k...@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn
kmit...@direct.ca Kevin Mitchell
lan...@cats.ucsc.edu Lance K. Chun
Ollivie...@hsc.fr.net Ollivier Robert
pa...@catfish.lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti
ry...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Glen Patrick Ryan
rzu...@rz.uni-wuerzburg.de Juergen Weinelt
Shris...@lambada.oit.unc.edu Shrisha Rao
sma...@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd
stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown
tla...@email.univpubs.american.edu Todd C. Lawson
twpi...@midway.uchicago.edu Tim Pierce
wide...@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius
Abstained
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crou...@flidh101.delcoelect.com Kenneth P Crouch
jan.coek...@ping.be Jan Coekelberghs
m...@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
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