Best Cable for Security or Web Cam

[Scott Cory]

Hello,

I am building a house and have my wiring pretty much settled. Except
I just realized I want to allow for future expansion of security
cameras on all 4 sides of the house.

Now I have no idea what I would use, maybe cheap web cams or something
more solid, I dont know at this point.

But which is the best wiring to put in place? RG6 or CAT5E, or
perhaps something else. Right now one of those two choices would be
easier since that is what the house is being wired for.

Oh, while I am here. I want to run an RG6 from the attic to my home
run so that I can add a TV antenna. Any thougts on this? What would
I run that cable through to distribute it throughout the house (I am
assuming the signal wont be strong enough without an amp)/ Is RG6 the
cable to use to get an antenna signal sent throughtout the house?

Thanks ahead for any answers !

Scott

[Robert L. Bass]

If you want to keep your options open so that you can choose any camera you
like, run the following from the wiring closet to each camera site:

1 CAT5 or CAT5e
1 RG6 coax
1 18/2 stranded cable

Be sure you use cables rated for in-wall use.

If you need help, feel free to call. I sell this stuff (wire, cameras, home
automation, tube tops, etc. -- online.

Regards,
Robert

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[King]

One question with the camera. After you install the camera is it possible
to view your camera on your TV inside your home and also have it hooked up
to your computer to be recorded or monitored at the sane time??

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[Robert L. Bass]

Sure thing. You just need a PC card that can accept the video feed.

Regards,
Robert

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"King" <kin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[King]

Today I went to a security shop and they advised me not to use RG6 they said
The picture would not be clear and that I should use RG59 instead. I he
said because of the Aluminium in the RG6 which is not good for the video....
Has anybody heard of this????

"Robert L. Bass" <rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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[Robert L. Bass]

> Today I went to a security shop and they advised me not to use RG6 they
said
> The picture would not be clear and that I should use RG59 instead. I he
> said because of the Aluminium in the RG6 which is not good for the
video....
> Has anybody heard of this????

That's pure BS. The signal travels on the surface of the center conductor
which is copper.

[Brutus]

RG-59 for base band! Most pro installers will use 59 for baseband A/V

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> "King" <kin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> > Today I went to a security shop and they advised me not to use RG6 they
> said
> > The picture would not be clear and that I should use RG59 instead. I
he
> > said because of the Aluminium in the RG6 which is not good for the
> video....
> > Has anybody heard of this????
>
>

> You can use either RG6U or RG59U. Try for a larger center conductor if
you
> can...
>
>

[Frank Olson]

True.. I find RG-59U's a bit more flexible than RG-6U, but either can be
used...

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[Chuck Y]

"computer scientology".

These are the guys who'd demand that you not use 14 Ga zip cord for
speakers ($20 for 100') and demand you buy (from them) $200 of oxygen
deprived magical speaker wire which, technically, can handle audio
signals up to 200KHz. Which is important for bat music. Otoh, my
pal, installing $20k stereos for people who won't use CD's because
of their low quality, uses zip cord.

For your own satisfaction, put ends on an RG6, leaving lying on the
floor and run your video across it and look.

[King]

I found this useful..
http://nt11.groupm7.com/csispeco/faqs.asp

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[Larry Jaques]

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:03:24 GMT, "King" <kin...@hotmail.com>
pixelated:

>I found this useful..
>http://nt11.groupm7.com/csispeco/faqs.asp

Couldn't they have made it harder to read?
(Ouch!)

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[Chuck Y]

King wrote:
> I found this useful..
> http://nt11.groupm7.com/csispeco/faqs.asp

Right, which basically says (in a not very authoritative way,
sounding more like "I'm bill and have been doing this a while
and here is my truth) :

RG59 is thinner than RG6.

I used RG59 a bunch. It was quick to crimp and (as noted)
flexible and it was easier to carry 6 50' rolls of in your
kit. RG6 can be a pain - it's often stiff and its certainly
heavier.

Now, I have no qualms using '59 from the wall to the VCR.

I wouldn't use my orange extension cord inside a wall, I'd not
drop RG59 in my walls.

Robert is right though: Toss along a CAT5 (or CAT3) (useful if you
ever have pan/tilt via serial) and an 18/2 pair for power.

RG6 and RG59 are both used extensively for video. For homes,
and in making TV (ok, video assist to go with film, but still
critical).

> "Chuck Y" <New...@Aug2003.snew.com> wrote in message
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>
>>"computer scientology".
>>
>>These are the guys who'd demand that you not use 14 Ga zip cord for
>>speakers ($20 for 100') and demand you buy (from them) $200 of oxygen
>>deprived magical speaker wire which, technically, can handle audio
>>signals up to 200KHz. Which is important for bat music. Otoh, my
>>pal, installing $20k stereos for people who won't use CD's because
>>of their low quality, uses zip cord.
>>
>>For your own satisfaction, put ends on an RG6, leaving lying on the
>>floor and run your video across it and look.
>>
>>King wrote:
>>
>>>Today I went to a security shop and they advised me not to use RG6 they
>
> said
>

>>>The picture would not be clear and that I should use RG59 instead. he

>>>said because of the Aluminium in the RG6 which is not good for the video....

>>>Has anybody heard of this????
>>>
>>>"Robert L. Bass" <rober...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:SN-dnXg1-s2...@giganews.com...
>>>>If you want to keep your options open so that you can choose any camera
> >>>you
>>>>like, run the following from the wiring closet to each camera site:
>>>>
>>>>1 CAT5 or CAT5e
>>>>1 RG6 coax
>>>>1 18/2 stranded cable
>>>>
>>>>Be sure you use cables rated for in-wall use.
>>>>
>>>>If you need help, feel free to call. I sell this stuff (wire, cameras,
>>>home
>>>>automation, tube tops, etc. -- online.

[Robert L. Bass]

> Right, which basically says (in a not very authoritative way,
> sounding more like "I'm bill and have been doing this a while
> and here is my truth) :

Actually, that's a copy of a FAQ page from one of the CCTV manufacturers.

> RG59 is thinner than RG6.
>
> I used RG59 a bunch. It was quick to crimp and (as noted)
> flexible and it was easier to carry 6 50' rolls of in your
> kit. RG6 can be a pain - it's often stiff and its certainly
> heavier.
>
> Now, I have no qualms using '59 from the wall to the VCR.
>
> I wouldn't use my orange extension cord inside a wall, I'd not
> drop RG59 in my walls.
>
> Robert is right though: Toss along a CAT5 (or CAT3) (useful if you
> ever have pan/tilt via serial) and an 18/2 pair for power.
>
> RG6 and RG59 are both used extensively for video. For homes,
> and in making TV (ok, video assist to go with film, but still
> critical).

Yup. RG6 is OK for any situation where RG59 might do. The converse is does
not necessarily hold true. Thus I prefer RG6. Truth be told, I prefer RG6
Q/S.

The CAT5 and 18/2 are just to make sure that no matter what you choose to
use you're covered.

[King]

Is there a difference between RG6 and RG6U?

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[Robert L. Bass]

No. RG is short for Radio Guide and U stands for Universal. Coaxial cables
are commonly referenced with or without the U.

Regards,
Robert

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> Is there a difference between RG6 and RG6U?

[Taz]

Sounds like the security store has an abundance of 59 lying around back.....

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[Robert L. Bass]

> Sounds like the security store has an abundance of 59 lying around
back.....

Could be. RG59 is cheaper, lighter and less bulky than RG6 so they may
prefer to stock it.

[King]

Thanks!!

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[Brutus]

RG-59 is for basband audio and video! Well, if you are a pro it is, you can
use what you want! But if you run a little test using both for a drop to a
subwoofer you will understand.

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