Best wire stipper?
Quentin
I'm looking for one that's good for speaker/cat5/telephone wire.
They all say that they don't damage the inner wire, but I'm not so sure, so
I thought I'd ask here.
Quentin.
BruceR
well for me over the last 30 years. For stripping the outer jacket I cut
a few inches of the jacket with the scissors and don't worry about
nicking conductors. Then I pull the string back to rip the jacket back
another few inches which prevents any risk of nicking a conductor.
Lastly, I trim the excess jacket and cut the wires to one half inch
beyond the jacket (or more as needed).
I've tried all kinds of wire strippers over the years but keep coming
back to my trusty scissors. The scissors also have notches for stripping
individual conductors without damage - better than teeth!
Robert L. Bass
I use a hunting knife which I hone regularly to remove the outer jacket. I
use a pair of Klein diagonal cutters to pull (not cut) the insulation off
small gauge inner conductors. Category cable only requires stripping the
outer jacket so the main tools are a knife and a good impact tool.
> They all say that they don't damage the inner wire, but I'm
> not so sure, so I thought I'd ask here.
With enough effort any tool can be used to damage wire. :^)
Regards,
Robert L Bass
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Rich
some electical with model Railroading buddies, and they turned me on
to this very professional tool. This stripper does such a beautiful
job, not even nicking the wire. It was rather expensive, about $30 or
so as I recall, but the cutters are replacable, and it's compound
action does the job every time. Should be with me "forever".
Frank Olson
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> > What's the best all around wire stripper that you have found?
>
> I use a hunting knife which I hone regularly to remove the outer jacket.
I
> use a pair of Klein diagonal cutters to pull (not cut) the insulation off
> small gauge inner conductors. Category cable only requires stripping the
> outer jacket so the main tools are a knife and a good impact tool.
Hmmm... "Klein Tools"... My opinion of you just went up a notch. I
wouldn't use a knife to cut the outer jacket though (I obviously don't have
either your "dexterity" or the time). You can use a pair of Klein strippers
to do that without risking damage to the inner conductors. The fire alarm
cable we buy has a "rip string" that you can expose by cutting the first
inch or so of the jacket away. I guess it would be too expensive to
incorporate that in the standard Station "Z" or Cat 5. :-(
>
> > They all say that they don't damage the inner wire, but I'm
> > not so sure, so I thought I'd ask here.
>
> With enough effort any tool can be used to damage wire. :^)
Heh... Good one!
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mikey
conductor with one of those. I haven't seen a pair of strippers yet that
CAN'T nick a conductor.
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BruceR
a rip cord and that, as I posted previously, is the proper way to strip
the outer jacket.
Frank Olson
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> All the Cat5/6 I've ever used (including the stuff from Home Depot) has
> a rip cord and that, as I posted previously, is the proper way to strip
> the outer jacket.
Who's the manufacturer?? I gotta get me some!!
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BruceR
is Genesis Cable. Both have the rip cord. I've also seen it in cable
from Arrow and ATT/Lucent/Avaya's Systemax brand.
Frank Olson
> The stuff I bought at Home Depot is General Cable and the stuff from ADI
> is Genesis Cable. Both have the rip cord. I've also seen it in cable
> from Arrow and ATT/Lucent/Avaya's Systemax brand.
I've never bought cable from an alarm/electrical wholesaler or Home Depot as
they're both too expensive... But now that you've mentioned a couple of the
manufacturers that do employ zipcords (in their CAT5), I'll try and source
it throught the cable supplier I use... Thanks!!
Frank Olson
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> Best wire stripper is a soldering iron. Pretty much impossible to nick a
> conductor with one of those. I haven't seen a pair of strippers yet that
> CAN'T nick a conductor.
The problem with a soldering iron is that it's not always "convenient" to
have something that hot lying around "underfoot" while you're doing
terminations...
Robert said it best:
"With enough effort any tool can be used to damage wire." :-))
Robert L. Bass
If you don't mind mucking up the point of your soldering iron with
carbonized PVC, go ahead. I prefer to use a tool that's designed for the
job. With a bit of practice it's easier, faster and cleaner to pull wire
off the end of a conductor than to melt it into a mess. Besides, when you
melt the insulation some of it adheres to the conductor, making your splices
higher resistance than they should be.
> Pretty much impossible to nick a
> conductor with one of those. I
> haven't seen a pair of strippers yet
> that CAN'T nick a conductor.
I haven't seen a hammer that CAN'T smash a thumb either. That doesn't mean
you should use the back of a screwdriver to bang nails.
>> "Frank Olson" wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm... "Klein Tools"... My opinion
>> of you just went up a notch....
I'll be sure to note that in my diary.
>> I wouldn't use a knife to cut the outer
>> jacket though (I obviously don't have
>> either your "dexterity" or the time).
It takes about 2 seconds to roll the jacket over a sharp blade. As to your
dexterity, I'll take your word for it.
>> You can use a pair of Klein strippers
>> to do that without risking damage to
>> the inner conductors.
With practice you can do the exact same thing with a sharp knife in less
time. Try it if you ever get out into the field. It's not hard to learn.
You can practice on a spare piece of cable in between walk-ins at the
counter.
>> The fire alarm cable we buy has a
>> "rip string" that you can expose by
>> cutting the first inch or so of the
>> jacket away...
Even when using rip-corded cable I prefer to terminate the rip with a quick
knife cut around the jacket. It makes for a neater cable end -- small
stuff, really, but I'm kind of finicky about neatness.
>> I guess it would be too expensive to
>> incorporate that in the standard
>> Station "Z" or Cat 5. :-(
It would be a waste for station cable since you rarely need to strip more
than a few inches of the outer jacket. I rarely strip more than 6" off a
category cable either, except when I'm doing cross-connect wiring.
BruceR
much I can hold them all and apply a little tension. Then after they're
cut they're all in my hand and I toss them in the trash rather than
sweeping up a bunch of little pieces at the end of the job. I also LOVE
the new open ended EZ-RJ45 plugs! I found that if you leave less than 4"
protruding from the plug the cutter doesn't do as clean a job. Those EZ
style plugs are so good that I'm going to probably just toss the hundred
or so old style ones I have on hand.
Frank Olson
> > Best wire stripper is a soldering iron...
>
> If you don't mind mucking up the point of your soldering iron with
> carbonized PVC, go ahead. I prefer to use a tool that's designed for the
> job. With a bit of practice it's easier, faster and cleaner to pull wire
> off the end of a conductor than to melt it into a mess. Besides, when you
> melt the insulation some of it adheres to the conductor, making your
splices
> higher resistance than they should be.
It's obvious that you've used a soldering iron to strip wire at some time in
your past... Hmmm... Someone with the "dexterity" to use a sharp knife and
not cut the inner conductors, winds up melting everything into a big mess...
I'd say you have the "dexterity" of "Daffy Duck"...
>
> > Pretty much impossible to nick a
> > conductor with one of those. I
> > haven't seen a pair of strippers yet
> > that CAN'T nick a conductor.
>
> I haven't seen a hammer that CAN'T smash a thumb either. That doesn't
mean
> you should use the back of a screwdriver to bang nails.
Heh... My favourite tool... Don't knock it... ;-)
>
> >> "Frank Olson" wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmmm... "Klein Tools"... My opinion
> >> of you just went up a notch....
>
> I'll be sure to note that in my diary.
I'll mark it on the calendar too...
>
> >> I wouldn't use a knife to cut the outer
> >> jacket though (I obviously don't have
> >> either your "dexterity" or the time).
>
> It takes about 2 seconds to roll the jacket over a sharp blade. As to
your
> dexterity, I'll take your word for it.
I'm all thumbs... It's why I use Klein strippers...
>
> >> You can use a pair of Klein strippers
> >> to do that without risking damage to
> >> the inner conductors.
>
> With practice you can do the exact same thing with a sharp knife in less
> time. Try it if you ever get out into the field. It's not hard to learn.
> You can practice on a spare piece of cable in between walk-ins at the
> counter.
What "counter" would that be?? Are you imagining that like you imagine the
aeronautical engineers and psychologists you frequently talk to??
>
> >> The fire alarm cable we buy has a
> >> "rip string" that you can expose by
> >> cutting the first inch or so of the
> >> jacket away...
>
> Even when using rip-corded cable I prefer to terminate the rip with a
quick
> knife cut around the jacket. It makes for a neater cable end -- small
> stuff, really, but I'm kind of finicky about neatness.
Judging from the way your shirt was "wadded" into the trousers of your
wedding tuxedo, being "finicky about neatness" is like Nixon saying "I'm not
a crook"...
>
> >> I guess it would be too expensive to
> >> incorporate that in the standard
> >> Station "Z" or Cat 5. :-(
>
> It would be a waste for station cable since you rarely need to strip more
> than a few inches of the outer jacket. I rarely strip more than 6" off a
> category cable either, except when I'm doing cross-connect wiring.
Oh??? When's the last time you installed/serviced an alarm system for
compensation (as a professional)?? Please tell us oh great alarm Guru!!
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Robert L. Bass
Same here and for the same reasons.
> I also LOVE the new open ended
> EZ-RJ45 plugs!
I haven't tried them yet. I'll have to grab some before my next
installation (new house we're looking at).
BruceR
http://www.cmh.net/catalog/Telecom_ModularPlugs.html
While they're 2-3 times the typical dime-a-piece prices for standard
plugs, you'll save a lot of time, frustration and eyestrain with these,
not to mention freedom from errors resulting in hours of troubleshooting
later. Trust me, these things earn their keep!
From:Robert L. Bass
rober...@comcast.net