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Stratis Bahaveolos

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May 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/17/95
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I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ...

I'm looking for advice and/or words of wisdom from anyone who has under-
taken this task already. What software have you used? What do you like
about it? Dislike? What would you do differently?

Also, I am thinking about buying a PDA or other hand held device so I
thought I would mention this incase it's a important consideration (I
don't want to re-key this stuff in the future) . Also I use Windows NT
and would hate to resort to a DOS tool, but am not afraid if I need to.

thanks in advance

Stratis Bahaveolos "The ideas expressed above are my own
Loyola University Chicago and not those of the institution"
sba...@luc.edu

John Beardmore

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May 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/18/95
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In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>
sba...@luc.edu "Stratis Bahaveolos" writes:

>I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
>cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
>searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ...
>
>I'm looking for advice and/or words of wisdom from anyone who has under-
>taken this task already. What software have you used? What do you like
>about it? Dislike? What would you do differently?
>
>Also, I am thinking about buying a PDA or other hand held device so I
>thought I would mention this incase it's a important consideration (I
>don't want to re-key this stuff in the future) . Also I use Windows NT
>and would hate to resort to a DOS tool, but am not afraid if I need to.

It's overkill, but how about some horrid lashup of Access and VB ?

If you are into integrated apps, that ought to be heaven; you can add
pictures and all sorts of crap to it.


Personally I'd do it with 100th of the resource with batch files at the
command line with ported GNU utilities but it's a matter of taste.

--
John Beardmore woo...@wookie.demon.co.uk
woo...@cix.compulink.co.uk

Remember children: 'M' is for Monoculture, Monopoly and for Microsoft.

Mark Henrichs

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May 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/22/95
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In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu says...

>
>I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
>cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
>searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ...
>
>I'm looking for advice and/or words of wisdom from anyone who has under-
>taken this task already. What software have you used? What do you like
>about it? Dislike? What would you do differently?
>
>Also, I am thinking about buying a PDA or other hand held device so I
>thought I would mention this incase it's a important consideration (I
>don't want to re-key this stuff in the future) . Also I use Windows NT
>and would hate to resort to a DOS tool, but am not afraid if I need to.
>
>thanks in advance
>
>Stratis Bahaveolos "The ideas expressed above are my own
>Loyola University Chicago and not those of the institution"
>sba...@luc.edu

I've tried several (Lotus' Organizer, the Day Planner with Norton's Desktop
for Windows, and Borland's Sidekick for Windows), and I've so far found
Sidekick to be the most versatile without a lot of overhead. Organizer is
just too resource-intensive and is a memory hog, and I've heard the latest
version has problems (I used an earlier version before Lotus bought it out).
Day Planner is simpler but doesn't allow setting up your own fields for the
card fields. But Sidekick allows defining your own fields and is very
versatile, easy to use, has good print options, custom sorting, etc. You can
set up different sets of cards for purposes other than just a rolodex.

BTW, I used this feature of Sidekick to organize the wiring scheme I used in
the A/V, phone, and LAN wiring of my house. I set up label number, room
name, destination node, and wire type as fields in the cards, and entered the
data for each wire in the house (using the wire lengths printed on the
cables, I also went a little anal and recorded the length of each run, for
possible future troubleshooting). I then sorted them differently and set up
custom print lists based on the sort patterns. Therefore I can print a list
of all outlets and cables by room name (for when I want to go into a
particular room and find a particular cable connection), one list by node (so
I can go to the central node and know what each cable is there by the label
on the cable), and one list for each wire type (so I know where each
telephone wire is when installing or modifying a telephone connection, for
example). All this with a common "database" of wiring data that is easily
maintained and printed! It worked very well, and was very easy to set up and
do with Sidekick.

Though I don't have a PDA, I found that it was relatively easy to switch my
databases of "rolodex" information from one organizer application to another
(Organizer to Day Planner to Sidekick) without re-entering data using the
standard comma-separated field (CSF) format transfer capability that these
applications all support. This is fairly common for transferring such
structured data between spreadsheets and databases, so I would imagine that
most PDAs would have some kind of feature to support this.

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David Kitts

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May 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/24/95
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In <3pqcnp$b...@newsit2.mcdata.com> ma...@mcdata.com (Mark Henrichs)
writes:
>
>In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu says...
>>
>>I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
>>cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
>>searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ...
>>
>>I'm looking for advice and/or words of wisdom from anyone who has
under-
>>taken this task already. What software have you used? What do you
----------<SNIP>--------------------

Mark
I use ACT 2 for windows by Symantec (Norton). It cost about $150. Once
the data is enterd, one can sort, by any possible combination you can
think of. It schedules meetings/phone calls/to-do-lists on a
daily/weekly/monthly basis, including alarms to remind you something is
due. You can print out on standard paper or custom pages for you
day-planner. With a modem it can FAX or Dial the numbers you want. It
is for small scale (I have 300 entries) or large (my sister has a
database of 30 megs), it can be placed on a file server and setup as an
E-mail system. You can have multiple databases or break it up into
groups. When you write a memo/FAX coversheet/letter/etc you can bring
in the necesary fields from your database (I think Logo's also) to
customize your document. It is worth more than they are asking for it.
TNX, David

Don Kochen

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May 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/24/95
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In article <3pusru$p...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> dki...@ix.netcom.com (David Kitts) writes:

>In <3pqcnp$b...@newsit2.mcdata.com> ma...@mcdata.com (Mark Henrichs)
>writes:
>>
>>In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu says...
>>>
>>>I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
>>>cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
>>>searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ...
>>>
>>>I'm looking for advice and/or words of wisdom from anyone who has
>under-
>>>taken this task already. What software have you used? What do you
>----------<SNIP>--------------------

>I use ACT 2 for windows by Symantec (Norton). It cost about $150. Once
>....<SNIP>

I recommend Time & Chaos. It's a shareware Personal Information Manager
that runs under Windows. A couple of months ago, I read some recommendations
and I gave it a try. I liked it so I sent in my $29.85 + $5 shipping to
register it.

It's organized by a To-Do List, "Rollodex", and Appointment Calendar. They
are all visible simultaneously, and are linked with "drop-and-drag" features.
You may assign Categories, filter and search any field for keywords, make
and save formatted reports, prioritize, dial, etc. etc.

It's available for download as tchao406.zip from
http://www.isbister.com/isl
. . . . . . . . .
Don Kochen koc...@ami1.bwi.wec.com
Westinghouse Electric Corp Baltimore, MD
Analog System Design (410) 765-3268
. . . . . . . . .

William L. Mays

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May 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/31/95
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I use and like The Pocket Electrodex by Rolodex, available at
Radio Shack. The 64K byte memory was plenty for the 3000 entries
that filled half of the RAM that I lost by pulling a battery
when I shouldn't have.
The IR link to a pc is lower priced than the Casio pc interface,
and others also, I believe.
Wish I had gotten arround to getting it before loosing the data.
I chose the pocket Rolodex because it is small enough, and rugged
enough, to drop in my pants pocket. The lcd screen is nice and large,
but the character set is short on punctuation.
I use only the Business Card File and Monthly Calendar functions,
I did not want reminders and alarm clock functions because they
only work if you have the thing with you and can hear it beep.

--
Speaking only for myself: Bill Mays Lockheed Martin Corp.
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/\ Same place, same job,
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Ray Kimbro

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May 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/31/95
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In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu (Stratis Bahaveolos) says:
>
>I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
>cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
>searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ...
>
<CLIPPPED>

>thanks in advance
>
>Stratis Bahaveolos "The ideas expressed above are my own
>Loyola University Chicago and not those of the institution"
>sba...@luc.edu

I personally am very thrifty (read CHEAP), and have found a perfectly
functional, if not extremely robust Online Rolodex in the Cardfile
application that has been shipped with MS Windows from version 3.0 & up.
It will dial, allow searches, print, sort, etc.... AND IT DOESN'T COST
ANYTHING if you already have MS Windows.

Ray E. Kimbro, Jr.
Systems Engineer
PTSC - Richmond, VA
All opinions expressed in this post are mine,
and do not constitute the approval or
agreement of my employer.

John Massaglia

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Jun 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/1/95
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In article <3qika0$j...@maverick.tad.eds.com>, kim...@ptsc.slg.eds.com
(Ray Kimbro) wrote:

> In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu (Stratis
Bahaveolos) says:
> >
> >I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
> >cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
> >searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ...
> >
> <CLIPPPED>
> >thanks in advance
> >
> >Stratis Bahaveolos "The ideas expressed above are my own
> >Loyola University Chicago and not those of the
institution"
> >sba...@luc.edu
>
> I personally am very thrifty (read CHEAP), and have found a perfectly
> functional, if not extremely robust Online Rolodex in the Cardfile
> application that has been shipped with MS Windows from version 3.0 & up.
> It will dial, allow searches, print, sort, etc.... AND IT DOESN'T COST
> ANYTHING if you already have MS
Windows.
>

If you use a Mac you could use Hypercard. It allows all of the above
features and it will also features a powerful scripting language that goes
along with it.

John Massaglia Workers of the World: Relax!
John_Ma...@byu.edu
mas...@spock.et.byu.edu http://spock.et.byu.edu/~massagj/index.html
finger mas...@spock.et.byu.edu for public key.

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Rob & Christine Cartwright

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Jun 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/1/95
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kim...@ptsc.slg.eds.com (Ray Kimbro) wrote:
>In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu (Stratis Bahaveolos) says:
>>
>>I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
>>cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
>>searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ...
>>

Ray,

That's exactly what I did about four or five years ago. I had about 200
people in MSWin's cardfile.exe. About 3 years ago or so I ran across a
beauty. It's inexpensive, somewhat simple, but thorough.

It's: DeskTop. It allows me to place notes, plenty of phone numbers,
search categories, and it imports/exports in plenty of varieties...should
you need to pull your data into a spreadsheet, etc.

If you need specifics, drop me an email. I'll pull the info on file.


Cordially,
Rob Cartwright
Mgr Info Services
CEBus Industry Council
>http://www.in.net/~cebus/homepage.htm

-------------------------------------------------
Opinions are mine, but all networking is good!
-------------------------------------------------

PS: It will even bring up caller info with caller id.


Bill Husler

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Jun 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/3/95
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In article <3qika0$j...@maverick.tad.eds.com>, kim...@ptsc.slg.eds.com
(Ray Kimbro) wrote:

> In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu (Stratis
Bahaveolos) says:
> >
> >I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
> >cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line
> >

> <CLIPPPED>


> the Cardfile
> application that has been shipped with MS Windows from version 3.0 & up.
> It will dial, allow searches, print, sort, etc.... AND IT DOESN'T COST
> ANYTHING if you already have MS
Windows.
>

OR,
If your a Mac user, I would highly recommend Now Software's Now
Contacts. Sure you have to pay for it, but it's a great product. Email me
for contact info.
Bill

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