I'm looking for advice and/or words of wisdom from anyone who has under-
taken this task already.  What software have you used?  What do you like
about it?   Dislike?  What would you do differently?  
Also, I am thinking about buying a PDA or other hand held device so I
thought I would mention this incase it's a important consideration (I 
don't want to re-key this stuff in the future) .  Also I use Windows NT 
and would hate to resort to a DOS tool, but am not afraid if I need to.
thanks in advance
Stratis Bahaveolos             "The ideas expressed above are my own 
Loyola University Chicago       and not those of the institution"                      
sba...@luc.edu                                                            
>I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
>cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
>searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ... 
>
>I'm looking for advice and/or words of wisdom from anyone who has under-
>taken this task already.  What software have you used?  What do you like
>about it?   Dislike?  What would you do differently?  
>
>Also, I am thinking about buying a PDA or other hand held device so I
>thought I would mention this incase it's a important consideration (I 
>don't want to re-key this stuff in the future) .  Also I use Windows NT 
>and would hate to resort to a DOS tool, but am not afraid if I need to.
It's overkill, but how about some horrid lashup of Access and VB ?
If you are into integrated apps, that ought to be heaven; you can add
pictures and all sorts of crap to it.
Personally I'd do it with 100th of the resource with batch files at the
command line with ported GNU utilities but it's a matter of taste.
-- 
John Beardmore     woo...@wookie.demon.co.uk
                   woo...@cix.compulink.co.uk
Remember children: 'M' is for Monoculture, Monopoly and for Microsoft.
I've tried several (Lotus' Organizer, the Day Planner with Norton's Desktop 
for Windows, and Borland's Sidekick for Windows), and I've so far found 
Sidekick to be the most versatile without a lot of overhead.  Organizer is 
just too resource-intensive and is a memory hog, and I've heard the latest 
version has problems (I used an earlier version before Lotus bought it out). 
Day Planner is simpler but doesn't allow setting up your own fields for the 
card fields.  But Sidekick allows defining your own fields and is very 
versatile, easy to use, has good print options, custom sorting, etc.  You can 
set up different sets of cards for purposes other than just a rolodex.
BTW, I used this feature of Sidekick to organize the wiring scheme I used in 
the A/V, phone, and LAN wiring of my house.  I set up label number, room 
name, destination node, and wire type as fields in the cards, and entered the 
data for each wire in the house (using the wire lengths printed on the 
cables, I also went a little anal and recorded the length of each run, for 
possible future troubleshooting).  I then sorted them differently and set up 
custom print lists based on the sort patterns.  Therefore I can print a list 
of all outlets and cables by room name (for when I want to go into a 
particular room and find a particular cable connection), one list by node (so 
I can go to the central node and know what each cable is there by the label 
on the cable), and one list for each wire type (so I know where each 
telephone wire is when installing or modifying a telephone connection, for 
example).  All this with a common "database" of wiring data that is easily 
maintained and printed!  It worked very well, and was very easy to set up and 
do with Sidekick.
Though I don't have a PDA, I found that it was relatively easy to switch my 
databases of "rolodex" information from one organizer application to another 
(Organizer to Day Planner to Sidekick) without re-entering data using the 
standard comma-separated field (CSF) format transfer capability that these 
applications all support.  This is fairly common for transferring such 
structured data between spreadsheets and databases, so I would imagine that 
most PDAs would have some kind of feature to support this.
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Mark
I use ACT 2 for windows by Symantec (Norton). It cost about $150. Once
the data is enterd, one can sort, by any possible combination you can
think of. It schedules meetings/phone calls/to-do-lists on a
daily/weekly/monthly basis, including alarms to remind you something is
due. You can print out on standard paper or custom pages for you
day-planner. With a modem it can FAX or Dial the numbers you want. It
is for small scale (I have 300 entries) or large (my sister has a
database of 30 megs), it can be placed on a file server and setup as an
E-mail system. You can have multiple databases or break it up into
groups. When you write a memo/FAX coversheet/letter/etc you can bring
in the necesary fields from your database (I think Logo's also) to
customize your document. It is worth more than they are asking for it.
TNX, David
>In <3pqcnp$b...@newsit2.mcdata.com> ma...@mcdata.com (Mark Henrichs)
>writes: 
>>
>>In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu says...
>>>
>>>I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
>>>cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
>>>searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ... 
>>>
>>>I'm looking for advice and/or words of wisdom from anyone who has
>under-
>>>taken this task already.  What software have you used?  What do you
>----------<SNIP>--------------------
>I use ACT 2 for windows by Symantec (Norton). It cost about $150. Once
>....<SNIP>
I recommend Time & Chaos. It's a shareware Personal Information Manager 
that runs under Windows. A couple of months ago, I read some recommendations
and I gave it a try. I liked it so I sent in my $29.85 + $5 shipping to 
register it.
It's organized by a To-Do List, "Rollodex", and Appointment Calendar. They 
are all visible simultaneously, and are linked with "drop-and-drag" features.
You may assign Categories, filter and search any field for keywords, make
and save formatted reports, prioritize, dial, etc. etc.
It's available for download as tchao406.zip from
http://www.isbister.com/isl
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Don Kochen                              koc...@ami1.bwi.wec.com
Westinghouse Electric Corp                        Baltimore, MD
Analog System Design                             (410) 765-3268
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-- 
Speaking only for myself:  Bill Mays     Lockheed Martin Corp.
\  /                       WM...@MOTOWN.GE.COM
 \/                        (=   <-I'm a mushroom...
 /\                        Same place, same job,
/  \  my mark.             fourth company.
I personally am very thrifty (read CHEAP), and have found a perfectly 
functional, if not extremely robust Online Rolodex in the Cardfile 
application that has been shipped with MS Windows from version 3.0 & up.
It will dial, allow searches, print, sort, etc.... AND IT DOESN'T COST
ANYTHING if you already have MS Windows.                                                             
Ray E. Kimbro, Jr. 
Systems Engineer
PTSC - Richmond, VA
All opinions expressed in this post are mine, 
and do not constitute the approval or 
agreement of my employer.  
> In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu (Stratis
Bahaveolos) says:
> >
> >I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
> >cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line so it's
> >searchable, updatable, movalbe, can dial the phone for me, ... 
> >
> <CLIPPPED>
> >thanks in advance
> >
> >Stratis Bahaveolos             "The ideas expressed above are my own 
> >Loyola University Chicago       and not those of the
institution"                      
> >sba...@luc.edu 
> 
> I personally am very thrifty (read CHEAP), and have found a perfectly 
> functional, if not extremely robust Online Rolodex in the Cardfile 
> application that has been shipped with MS Windows from version 3.0 & up.
> It will dial, allow searches, print, sort, etc.... AND IT DOESN'T COST
> ANYTHING if you already have MS
Windows.                                                             
> 
If you use a Mac you could use Hypercard.  It allows all of the above
features and it will also features a powerful scripting language that goes
along with it.
John Massaglia                     Workers of the World:  Relax!
John_Ma...@byu.edu
mas...@spock.et.byu.edu  http://spock.et.byu.edu/~massagj/index.html
finger mas...@spock.et.byu.edu for public key.
GO d-- H- s:- !g p2 au a- w+ v+ C++$ UH P+ L 3 E? N++ K++ W--- M++ V
   -po+ Y+ t+ 5- j++ R- G' tv b+ D B-- e+ u* h--- f r+++ !n y?
Ray,
That's exactly what I did about four or five years ago.  I had about 200 
people in MSWin's cardfile.exe.  About 3 years ago or so I ran across a 
beauty.  It's inexpensive, somewhat simple, but thorough.
It's:  DeskTop.  It allows me to place notes, plenty of phone numbers, 
search categories, and it imports/exports in plenty of varieties...should 
you need to pull your data into a spreadsheet, etc.
If you need specifics, drop me an email. I'll pull the info on file.
Cordially,
Rob Cartwright
Mgr Info Services
CEBus Industry Council
>http://www.in.net/~cebus/homepage.htm
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Opinions are mine, but all networking is good!
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PS: It will even bring up caller info with caller id.
> In article <3pdk3m$8...@apollo.it.luc.edu>, sba...@luc.edu (Stratis
Bahaveolos) says:
> >
> >I'm thinking about throwing out my paper rolodex (and loose business
> >cards, slips of paper, ...) and putting it all on-line
> >
> <CLIPPPED>
> the Cardfile 
> application that has been shipped with MS Windows from version 3.0 & up.
> It will dial, allow searches, print, sort, etc.... AND IT DOESN'T COST
> ANYTHING if you already have MS
Windows.                                                             
> 
OR,
  If your a Mac user, I would highly recommend Now Software's Now
Contacts. Sure you have to pay for it, but it's a great product. Email me
for contact info.
Bill