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Ant
Dec 18, 2014, 11:14:16 AM12/18/14
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Hello.
It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is dying
since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to black and
display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is time to find a
replacement.
-22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space and I need
to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying sun shining on
to it since window blinds don't help.
-Adjustable height.
-Tiltable.
-Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
Windows, and Mac)
-Do some basic graphic work.
-Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
I noticed some current sales that might be good?
http://www.salescircular.com/ca/computer/mnitrp.shtml
http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvsmlp.shtml
http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvp.shtml
I want to see the new monitor in person with local retail stores like
Costco, Best Buy, Fry's Electronics, etc. before buying to be sure I
like it.
Thank you in advance. :)
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It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is dying
since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to black and
display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is time to find a
replacement.
-22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space and I need
to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying sun shining on
to it since window blinds don't help.
-Adjustable height.
-Tiltable.
-Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
Windows, and Mac)
-Do some basic graphic work.
-Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
I noticed some current sales that might be good?
http://www.salescircular.com/ca/computer/mnitrp.shtml
http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvsmlp.shtml
http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvp.shtml
I want to see the new monitor in person with local retail stores like
Costco, Best Buy, Fry's Electronics, etc. before buying to be sure I
like it.
Thank you in advance. :)
--
"Since the world began, we have never exterminated. We probably shall
never exterminate as much as one single insect species. If there was
ever an example of an insect we cannot destroy, the fire ant is it."
--an entomologist quote mentioned by Leonard Nimoy on In The Search Of:
Deadly Ants (1978)
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Rod Speed
Dec 18, 2014, 1:02:44 PM12/18/14
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Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote
> It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is dying
> since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to black and
> display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is time to find a
> replacement.
> -22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space
Makes more sense to reconfigure your desk now
so that your choices aren't crippled by the desk.
There are fuck all decent monitors that aren't widescreen now.
> and I need to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying sun
> shining on to it since window blinds don't help.
I fixed that problem with a proper antiglare monitor.
Hard to find that in the specs tho, I had to work that out
with the monitors I got by looking at a youtube review
and checking if I could see reflections in the screen.
> -Adjustable height.
> -Tiltable.
It makes more sense to do that stuff in a separate
stand and not require it in the monitor itself.
> -Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
> Windows, and Mac)
Most do allow that.
> -Do some basic graphic work.
> -Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
None of that affects your choices much.
Does the gaming involve stuff like freecell or fast moving stuff ?
That last does matter, you can get smearing etc with the slower
monitors.
I use one of mine as my main TV now and it works fine.
> I noticed some current sales that might be good?
> http://www.salescircular.com/ca/computer/mnitrp.shtml
> http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvsmlp.shtml
> http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvp.shtml
> I want to see the new monitor in person with local retail stores like
> Costco, Best Buy, Fry's Electronics, etc. before buying to be sure I like
> it.
That is a real problem. I couldn’t find any examples
to look at in person myself, but then I don’t have
the same range of stores available locally and it
wasn’t worth paying anything like $100 just to
visit the state capital that does have those.
I found the youtube reviews very useful once I had
decided on a small handful of candidates from the
online prices and specs, particularly on the antiglare
which for some reason most manufacturers don’t
mention at all in the specs.
One thing I have found that I didn’t consider is that
the monitors have a shiny black surround and I do
get an unexpected effect where I can get a reflection
on that from someone walking past outside the
big patio doors if they are wearing very bright
clothes like those stupid safety orange tops etc.
I ended up with a couple of Asus VS248H monitors.
There are quite a few similar models with various
minor variations on stuff like speakers and USB hubs.
> Thank you in advance. :)
Still smirking.
> It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is dying
> since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to black and
> display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is time to find a
> replacement.
> -22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space
so that your choices aren't crippled by the desk.
There are fuck all decent monitors that aren't widescreen now.
> and I need to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying sun
> shining on to it since window blinds don't help.
Hard to find that in the specs tho, I had to work that out
with the monitors I got by looking at a youtube review
and checking if I could see reflections in the screen.
> -Adjustable height.
> -Tiltable.
It makes more sense to do that stuff in a separate
stand and not require it in the monitor itself.
> -Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
> Windows, and Mac)
> -Do some basic graphic work.
> -Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
Does the gaming involve stuff like freecell or fast moving stuff ?
That last does matter, you can get smearing etc with the slower
monitors.
I use one of mine as my main TV now and it works fine.
> I noticed some current sales that might be good?
> http://www.salescircular.com/ca/computer/mnitrp.shtml
> http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvsmlp.shtml
> http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvp.shtml
> I want to see the new monitor in person with local retail stores like
> Costco, Best Buy, Fry's Electronics, etc. before buying to be sure I like
> it.
to look at in person myself, but then I don’t have
the same range of stores available locally and it
wasn’t worth paying anything like $100 just to
visit the state capital that does have those.
I found the youtube reviews very useful once I had
decided on a small handful of candidates from the
online prices and specs, particularly on the antiglare
which for some reason most manufacturers don’t
mention at all in the specs.
One thing I have found that I didn’t consider is that
the monitors have a shiny black surround and I do
get an unexpected effect where I can get a reflection
on that from someone walking past outside the
big patio doors if they are wearing very bright
clothes like those stupid safety orange tops etc.
I ended up with a couple of Asus VS248H monitors.
There are quite a few similar models with various
minor variations on stuff like speakers and USB hubs.
> Thank you in advance. :)
Ant
Dec 19, 2014, 10:57:06 AM12/19/14
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On 12/18/2014 10:02 AM PT, Rod Speed typed:
>> It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is
>> dying since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to
>> black and display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is
>> time to find a replacement.
>
>> -22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space
>
> Makes more sense to reconfigure your desk now
> so that your choices aren't crippled by the desk.
Kind of hard to do since these are part of the tiny room. Heh.
> There are fuck all decent monitors that aren't widescreen now.
Wait, they still make new non-wide screen monitors? :(
>> and I need to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying
>> sun shining on to it since window blinds don't help.
>
> I fixed that problem with a proper antiglare monitor.
>
> Hard to find that in the specs tho, I had to work that out
> with the monitors I got by looking at a youtube review
> and checking if I could see reflections in the screen.
Ah, I remember I used to use those antiglare screen covers for CRT TVs
back in the early (19)90s. They were OK since they made my picture dark. :/
>> -Adjustable height.
>> -Tiltable.
>
> It makes more sense to do that stuff in a separate
> stand and not require it in the monitor itself.
Hmm, my old monitors could do that. New ones don't?
>
>> -Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
>> Windows, and Mac)
>
> Most do allow that.
Good.
>> -Do some basic graphic work.
>> -Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
>
> None of that affects your choices much.
OK.
> Does the gaming involve stuff like freecell or fast moving stuff ?
> That last does matter, you can get smearing etc with the slower
> monitors.
Both (yes, action games). IIRC, I need low milisecond numbers?
Thanks.
>> Thank you in advance. :)
>
> Still smirking.
And forever. :)
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>> It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is
>> dying since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to
>> black and display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is
>> time to find a replacement.
>
>> -22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space
>
> Makes more sense to reconfigure your desk now
> so that your choices aren't crippled by the desk.
> There are fuck all decent monitors that aren't widescreen now.
>> and I need to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying
>> sun shining on to it since window blinds don't help.
>
> I fixed that problem with a proper antiglare monitor.
>
> Hard to find that in the specs tho, I had to work that out
> with the monitors I got by looking at a youtube review
> and checking if I could see reflections in the screen.
back in the early (19)90s. They were OK since they made my picture dark. :/
>> -Adjustable height.
>> -Tiltable.
>
> It makes more sense to do that stuff in a separate
> stand and not require it in the monitor itself.
>
>> -Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
>> Windows, and Mac)
>
> Most do allow that.
>> -Do some basic graphic work.
>> -Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
>
> None of that affects your choices much.
> Does the gaming involve stuff like freecell or fast moving stuff ?
> That last does matter, you can get smearing etc with the slower
> monitors.
>> Thank you in advance. :)
>
> Still smirking.
--
"They are like the ant... They start one way and turn around and go the
other way... They look all the time at the ground and never see the
sky." --Davi Kopenawa Yanomami, Amazonian Indian (Newsweek 117(17):5, 1991)
Rod Speed
Dec 19, 2014, 5:22:23 PM12/19/14
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Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote
>>> It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is dying
>>> since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to black and
>>> display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is time to find a
>>> replacement.
>>> -22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space
>> Makes more sense to reconfigure your desk now
>> so that your choices aren't crippled by the desk.
> Kind of hard to do since these are part of the tiny room. Heh.
I still don’t buy it. the different is only a few inches.
>> There are fuck all decent monitors that aren't widescreen now.
> Wait, they still make new non-wide screen monitors? :(
I doubt it but haven't checked that.
>>> and I need to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying sun
>>> shining on to it since window blinds don't help.
>> I fixed that problem with a proper antiglare monitor.
>> Hard to find that in the specs tho, I had to work that out
>> with the monitors I got by looking at a youtube review
>> and checking if I could see reflections in the screen.
> Ah, I remember I used to use those antiglare screen covers for CRT TVs
> back in the early (19)90s. They were OK since they made my picture dark.
> :/
That doesn’t happen with proper antiglare LCD monitors.
My place is passive solar and in winter I quite literally
bask in the very bright sun streaming in thru the fucking
great patio doors and with the old CRT monitors the
screens were completely unusable for a few hours.
Don’t have that problem anymore.
>>> -Adjustable height.
>>> -Tiltable.
>> It makes more sense to do that stuff in a separate
>> stand and not require it in the monitor itself.
> Hmm, my old monitors could do that. New ones don't?
Not as well as a proper stand.
>>> -Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
>>> Windows, and Mac)
>> Most do allow that.
> Good.
>>> -Do some basic graphic work.
>>> -Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
>> None of that affects your choices much.
> OK.
>> Does the gaming involve stuff like freecell or fast moving stuff ?
>> That last does matter, you can get smearing etc with the slower
>> monitors.
> Both (yes, action games). IIRC, I need low milisecond numbers?
Dunno, I'm not into action games myself.
The ONLY game I ever play is Freecell Pro.
I'd have you publicly flogged if you hadn't
enjoyed that so much the last time.
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote
>>> It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is dying
>>> since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to black and
>>> display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is time to find a
>>> replacement.
>>> -22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space
>> Makes more sense to reconfigure your desk now
>> so that your choices aren't crippled by the desk.
> Kind of hard to do since these are part of the tiny room. Heh.
>> There are fuck all decent monitors that aren't widescreen now.
> Wait, they still make new non-wide screen monitors? :(
>>> and I need to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying sun
>>> shining on to it since window blinds don't help.
>> I fixed that problem with a proper antiglare monitor.
>> Hard to find that in the specs tho, I had to work that out
>> with the monitors I got by looking at a youtube review
>> and checking if I could see reflections in the screen.
> Ah, I remember I used to use those antiglare screen covers for CRT TVs
> back in the early (19)90s. They were OK since they made my picture dark.
> :/
My place is passive solar and in winter I quite literally
bask in the very bright sun streaming in thru the fucking
great patio doors and with the old CRT monitors the
screens were completely unusable for a few hours.
Don’t have that problem anymore.
>>> -Adjustable height.
>>> -Tiltable.
>> It makes more sense to do that stuff in a separate
>> stand and not require it in the monitor itself.
> Hmm, my old monitors could do that. New ones don't?
>>> -Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
>>> Windows, and Mac)
>> Most do allow that.
> Good.
>>> -Do some basic graphic work.
>>> -Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
>> None of that affects your choices much.
> OK.
>> Does the gaming involve stuff like freecell or fast moving stuff ?
>> That last does matter, you can get smearing etc with the slower
>> monitors.
> Both (yes, action games). IIRC, I need low milisecond numbers?
The ONLY game I ever play is Freecell Pro.
enjoyed that so much the last time.
jer...@juno.com
Dec 20, 2014, 12:44:13 PM12/20/14
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:14:14 -0800, Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>Hello.
>
>It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is dying
>since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to black and
>display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is time to find a
>replacement.
>
>-22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space and I need
>to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying sun shining on
>to it since window blinds don't help.
>-Adjustable height.
>-Tiltable.
>-Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
>Windows, and Mac)
>-Do some basic graphic work.
>-Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
>
>I noticed some current sales that might be good?
>http://www.salescircular.com/ca/computer/mnitrp.shtml
>http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvsmlp.shtml
>http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvp.shtml
>
>I want to see the new monitor in person with local retail stores like
>Costco, Best Buy, Fry's Electronics, etc. before buying to be sure I
>like it.
>
>Thank you in advance. :)
Asus PA-248 is just under 22" total width, 24" screen 1920 x 1200,
>Hello.
>
>It looks like my very old 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931BF monitor is dying
>since it has problems turning on (black screens, flickers to black and
>display fast, etc.) on multiple desktop computers. It is time to find a
>replacement.
>
>-22" horizontal width max(imum) due to my limited desk space and I need
>to be able to move it around a little due to the annoying sun shining on
>to it since window blinds don't help.
>-Adjustable height.
>-Tiltable.
>-Still need VGA and DVI ports for old cables and computers (Linux,
>Windows, and Mac)
>-Do some basic graphic work.
>-Do a lot of Internet, watching videos, some gaming, etc.
>
>I noticed some current sales that might be good?
>http://www.salescircular.com/ca/computer/mnitrp.shtml
>http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvsmlp.shtml
>http://www.salescircular.com/ca/video/tvp.shtml
>
>I want to see the new monitor in person with local retail stores like
>Costco, Best Buy, Fry's Electronics, etc. before buying to be sure I
>like it.
>
>Thank you in advance. :)
60hz.
Ant
Dec 20, 2014, 9:58:44 PM12/20/14
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On 12/20/2014 9:44 AM PT, jer...@juno.com typed:
and have no room. Oh and that price. Yikes! :(
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> Asus PA-248 is just under 22" total width, 24" screen 1920 x 1200,
> 60hz.
Interesting that its screen can be rotated vertically which I don't need
> 60hz.
and have no room. Oh and that price. Yikes! :(
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jer...@juno.com
Dec 21, 2014, 1:18:11 PM12/21/14
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:58:34 -0800, Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>On 12/20/2014 9:44 AM PT, jer...@juno.com typed:
>> Asus PA-248 is just under 22" total width, 24" screen 1920 x 1200,
>> 60hz.
>
>Interesting that its screen can be rotated vertically which I don't need
>and have no room. Oh and that price. Yikes! :(
Then look for a 23" or smaller. I have not seen many monitors with
>On 12/20/2014 9:44 AM PT, jer...@juno.com typed:
>> Asus PA-248 is just under 22" total width, 24" screen 1920 x 1200,
>> 60hz.
>
>Interesting that its screen can be rotated vertically which I don't need
>and have no room. Oh and that price. Yikes! :(
narrow sides, so now you know what to look for. A 24" will fit--but if
you are happy with a 19", go for it....
Rod Speed
Dec 21, 2014, 1:31:23 PM12/21/14
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Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote
> jer...@juno.com wrote
>> Asus PA-248 is just under 22" total width, 24" screen 1920 x 1200, 60hz.
> Interesting that its screen can be rotated vertically which
> I don't need and have no room. Oh and that price. Yikes! :(
Yeah, it makes more sense to somehow allow for just another inch
so the normal 24" monitors are usable so your choice isnt crippled.
> jer...@juno.com wrote
>> Asus PA-248 is just under 22" total width, 24" screen 1920 x 1200, 60hz.
> Interesting that its screen can be rotated vertically which
> I don't need and have no room. Oh and that price. Yikes! :(
so the normal 24" monitors are usable so your choice isnt crippled.
jer...@juno.com
May 26, 2015, 9:55:56 AM5/26/15
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:58:34 -0800, Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>On 12/20/2014 9:44 AM PT, jer...@juno.com typed:
>> Asus PA-248 is just under 22" total width, 24" screen 1920 x 1200,
>> 60hz.
>
>Interesting that its screen can be rotated vertically which I don't need
>and have no room. Oh and that price. Yikes! :(
Similar 23.8" Asus monitor now $130 at Newegg (Memorial Day sale).
>> Asus PA-248 is just under 22" total width, 24" screen 1920 x 1200,
>> 60hz.
>
>Interesting that its screen can be rotated vertically which I don't need
>and have no room. Oh and that price. Yikes! :(
This one is 1920 x 1080 (the PA248 is 1920 x 1200).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236335&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL052615&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL052615&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL052615-_-EMC-052615-Index-_-LCDLEDMonitors-_-24236335-S0B
Ant
May 27, 2015, 8:50:31 AM5/27/15
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> Similar 23.8" Asus monitor now $130 at Newegg (Memorial Day sale).
> This one is 1920 x 1080 (the PA248 is 1920 x 1200).
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236335&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL052615&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL052615&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL052615-_-EMC-052615-Index-_-LCDLEDMonitors-_-24236335-S0B
>
Thanks. I ended up with a 23.6" 16:9 1920x1080 pixels ASUS VS247H-P
> This one is 1920 x 1080 (the PA248 is 1920 x 1200).
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236335&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL052615&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL052615&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL052615-_-EMC-052615-Index-_-LCDLEDMonitors-_-24236335-S0B
>
monitor with a $20 MIR from Fry's Electronics in person. :)
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