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Disadvantages of lotus notes?

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A. T.

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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Hi, i know everybody talks about how wonderful lotus notes and domino
are, but are there any disadvantages about their use that you can tell
me?? How does it compare to running an information system using an
intranet and a web server...

Thanks

A.T.

Terrance A. Crow

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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I think your question is a little too vague for a solid answer. Do you
have a specific application? If you can give some general
requirements, then we can take a look at how well Notes would fit.

camyers

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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Well if you are going to have one Domino machine to act as your main Notes
server, a Web server, and email server, then be prepared to buy a lot of
RAM.

The biggest complaint around here is the proprietary nature of the email.
It doesn't really conform to the way the more common email packages work.

Getting people to actually start using it without holding their hand
through the process can be a pain as well.

Be prepared to answer "how come it won't let me....?" a whole lot.

If you have the time and resources to give or develop the databases people
would like to use, Notes can be very useful. If you only use Notes for the
Web server and email, you won't be getting a very good return on your
investment.

Notes really takes some time to make work efficiently, but when it does, it
pretty darn cool.

L8r

cam...@rfidsystems.com

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Steve Krengel

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:03:27 -0600, "A. T."
<lto...@campus.ruv.itesm.mx> wrote:

>Hi, i know everybody talks about how wonderful lotus notes and domino
>are, but are there any disadvantages about their use that you can tell
>me?? How does it compare to running an information system using an
>intranet and a web server...
>
>Thanks
>
>A.T.
>


We have two Notes servers and use Notes/Domino as our primary vehicle
for company-wide e-mail as well as databases that link all departments
and field offices together. One server is the main server for mail
routing and databases, the other just runs the SMTP MTA.

Both servers are located at HQ and we have field offices in LA,
Chicago, Washington D.C., London, Dallas, Toronto, etc. The majority
of users are on a LAN and use SPX and TCP/IP as protocols. One field
office is connected by a WAN and uses TCP/IP as it's protocol, all
others use XPC (asynchronous or dial-up).

Most of the machines we use are still 486/66 with 16MB Ram on a
10BaseT network. Response from the server is okay, but the Notes
client on these machines is SLOW.

Our previous administrator departed and left no documentation about
either server and I had to assume the duties. Day to day
administration is fairly simple once you get the hang of it, however,
troubleshooting server, database, and desktop client issues has been a
pain in the ass. A very BIG pain in the ass.

Like someone else said, get it set up, get it going the way you want
it, and it works damn slick, but be prepared to spend a lot of time
with it at first.

Steve Krengel
www.gelconet.com


Mr. James

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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Disadvantages of Notes ...

Notes is oriented towards document mgmt, including discussion groups
and workflow processes. Notes succeeds at these tasks.

Notes is not a general purpose DBMS. Notes is not suitable for high speed
or high volume inventory apps. Whereas databases are generally careflly
designed with principles of normalization and integrity observed, Notes
does not emphasize this and promotes ad hoc design.

Domino HTTP does a fair job of publishing Notes apps that meet the Notes
paradigm described above. However, Domino has the following problems that
make general Web publishing tasks frustrating:

1) programmer must hack around the 1 submit button limit
2) frames overlooked. Try to tell a custom search form where to emit.
3) even with $$RETURN, HTML forms processing a real pain
4) $$ViewBody an atomic search result. How do you customize its display?

As for Notes, how do you do a flexible/dynamic search within a view?
--
Mr. James, PP-ASEL, Computer Programmer, 71022...@compuserve.com

Erwin Heeren

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Apr 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/26/97
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PMFJI, but how much RAM does it take to run all these services on an NT 4
server.

Erwin

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Stuart Strickland

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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In article <01bc524b$1117ab80$0dac07c2@magnolia>,

"Erwin Heeren" <ne...@digilinks.be> wrote:
>
> PMFJI, but how much RAM does it take to run all these services on an NT 4
> server.
>
> Erwin
>

I started out with 16meg of RAM in one of my boxes that was to run purely
the notes 4.5 server (no domino). This however was way to little(it
crawled). With 32meg it runs at a reasonable pace and if you are going to
enable domino then I would suggest at least 64meg.

Our domino server is a pentium pro 200 with 64meg of RAM and has no speed
problems at all.

Cheers Stu

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