How does one pronounce GIF?
mi...@maria.wustl.edu
I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
Steve Pietrowicz
]I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
]a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
"JIF".
J. Michael Blackford
>I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
>a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
According to Compu$erve, GIF copyright owner, it's pronounced "jiff".
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> mi...@maria.wustl.edu writes:
>>I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
>>a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
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> According to Compu$erve, GIF copyright owner, it's pronounced "jiff".
All the "COOL" people pronounce it GIF with hard G, as in
"God, I hope this thread doesn't continue."
^
Craig Oshima
>I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
>a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
I've always said "jif", as have all (but one of) my friends. It's a good
question, even if it is academic. If I learned that it was "officially"
called "Gif" (Hard 'g'), I probably wouldn't change, nor would my friends, I
would guess. It's still a good question, though.
Craig
Paul Martz
> I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
> a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
(Didn't we just have this conversation? Anyway...)
Linguistically speaking, you would pronouce it with a hard G, because
the G comes from "graphics", which has a hard G, so there's a pretty
good case for it.
On the other hand, "modem" comes from "modulate/demodulate", and if
linguistics had it's way, modem would then be pronounced "mahdeem". So
much for that theory.
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Pierce Krouse
Choosy hackers choose "jif" ...
Doug Ingraham
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Nobody who sees GIF thinks to pronounce it jiff. I simply refer to
the peanut butter graphics standard when I have to talk about it.
Can you say JPEG?
I thought you could 8-).
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matthew frazer
And its nice to tell people they have skuzzy (Viewed as SCSI)
equipment.
Personally, I think you can pronounce it any way that you like, people
may not understand you if you start pronouncing GIF as gloops but its
all up to you.
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Paul Andrew Olbrich
developed a simple file format to interface between his
modelling software and my ray tracer. We called it the
"JIF" file format (pronounced "giff")
We rendered his models and converted the resulting images
into "GIF" files.
Needless to say, this made verbal communication somewhat
tricky.
Drew Olbrich
po...@andrew.cmu.edu
Joseph Francis
>
>I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
>a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
I always assumed it was along the lines of
"Choosy mothers choose jif Peanut Butter"
sounding, though sounding like Frank Gifford is a close second.
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Les Ramer
>
> I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
> a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
Well, I too have heard it both ways. GIF stands for Graphics Interchange
Format (I think. At least this is close) Anyway, the 'G' on Graphics
is a "hard" G sound, so, I think that it should be pronounce Gif as in
"Graphics" what does everyone else think?
David James Hahn
Yes...Yes, as the /j/ in 'jugular' is [+coronal ]
[+high ]
[-back ]
[+voice ]
[-cont ]
and a 'g' type sound (cannot reproduce correct IPA character), is
[-cor ]
[-hi ]
[+back ]
[+voice ]
[-cont ]
One would speculate that since the vowel /i/ is [+hi],[-back], there might
be some more of a naturalness involved in the /j/ pronunciation....
( Just kidding....Who cares any ways? )
Crazy Dave
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Douglas Gennetten
>is a "hard" G sound, so, I think that it should be pronounce Gif as in
>"Graphics" what does everyone else think?
Yes, and DEC should thus be pronounce "DEEK". ROM is "ROME" ...
NOEL
Irregardless of what the people at compuserve may feel I like gif with
a hard G as in Graphic. Not that it will ever be resolved. So call it what you
like as anybody who knows graphics will recognize either while anyone else will
just say "Huh?"
No...@reg.triumf.ca
Greg Pringle
Bit-Mapped Graphics, Steve Rimmer, Windcrest/Mcgraw Hill 1990.
J. Michael Blackford
>In article <16...@bsu-cs.bsu.edu>, dre...@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Les Ramer) writes...
>>mi...@maria.wustl.edu writes:
>>> I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
>>> a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
>>Well, I too have heard it both ways. GIF stands for Graphics Interchange
>>Format (I think. At least this is close) Anyway, the 'G' on Graphics
>>is a "hard" G sound, so, I think that it should be pronounce Gif as in
>>"Graphics" what does everyone else think?
>Irregardless of what the people at compuserve may feel I like gif with
>like as anybody who knows graphics will recognize either while anyone else will
>just say "Huh?"
> No...@reg.triumf.ca
A bit of trivia: According to lawyer friends, the "legal" pronunciation of
a name is determined by the "owner". Thus, if your name is spelled
J_O_N_E_S, and you define the pronunciation as "Hoe-nez" or even "smith",
then that's the way YOUR name is "legally" pronounced.
As we all know, lawyers are paid to disagree...:-) ... so, your mileage
may vary. I only provide this use(less/ful) information for your
possible amusement... and to support the (il)legitmacy of the Compu$erve
description of the pronunciation. They "own" the name.
No flames, please. I'll cheerfully ignore them.
Steve Lamont
Yeah! That's it! We all decide to pronounce it "GEEK!"
Sheeesh!
spl (the p stands for
pronounced throat warbler
mangrove)
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gal...@uservx.plk.af.mil
I always pronounced it with a hard G too, like the G in graphics. Even though
that G stands for "graphics," if you simply pronounce "GIF," it should be
pronounced as though it were a three-letter word. Most English words that
start with "GI" have a hard G, like gigabyte, gill, gibbon, and gimbal. There
are some that have a soft G, though, like gibberish, giant, and gigolo. The
closest English word to "GIF" is the word gift, which is pronounced with a hard
G. Based on all this, I pronounce it with a hard G, as if I'm saying "gift"
without the "t."
Just some ideas,
-Ralph
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>Choosy hackers choose "jif" ...
I choose to play it safe and pronounce it Gee-eye-ehf. Same go's for vee-eye
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Jeff
>"According to Compuserve, GIF is pronounced jif."
>Bit-Mapped Graphics, Steve Rimmer, Windcrest/Mcgraw Hill 1990.
Are those the same folks that pronounce SYSOP 'SIGH-SOP'?
Greg Bonney
I'm sure they also pronounce DOS 'DOSE'.
Greg Pringle
Seems that some of you are getting pretty silly about this.
Compuserve originated the GIF standard, so if they want GIF pronounced "jif"
then that is their perogative.
Paul Martz
> I'm sure they also pronounce DOS 'DOSE'.
But everyone knows it's really pronounced "doze".
David F. Skoll
(Greg Pringle) writes:
>Seems that some of you are getting pretty silly about this.
>Compuserve originated the GIF standard, so if they want GIF pronounced "jif"
>then that is their perogative.
And if no-one wants to follow the de jure standard, but rather a de
facto standard of pronunciation, then what Compuserve says is not
relevant. I dislike "cute" trade names that mangle normal English
usage. Another point - if Compuserve pronounces it "jif", does that
mean they don't hold the trademark on the "gif" pronunciation? Race
you to the trademark office... :-)
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Kevin Darling
>Seems that some of you are getting pretty silly about this.
>Compuserve originated the GIF standard, so if they want GIF pronounced "jif"
>then that is their perogative.
all called it "jiff". It still takes me a second or two to understand
what someone means by "giff", but it gets through after a while :-)
So if you want to use a hard "g", then that's understandable in this age
of using non-voice networks... just as many isolated people still pronounce
"SCSI" as "ess see ess eye" instead of "scuzzy".
But you'll be wrong :-)
kevin <kdar...@catt.ncsu.edu> Followups to alt.folklore.computers, where
this probably should be laid to rest.
David Crook
>I always pronounced it with a hard G too, like the G in graphics. Even though
>that G stands for "graphics," if you simply pronounce "GIF," it should be
>pronounced as though it were a three-letter word. Most English words that
>start with "GI" have a hard G, like gigabyte, gill, gibbon, and gimbal. There
>are some that have a soft G, though, like gibberish, giant, and gigolo. The
>closest English word to "GIF" is the word gift, which is pronounced with a hard
>G. Based on all this, I pronounce it with a hard G, as if I'm saying "gift"
>without the "t."
From my Websters Collegiate:
giga- \'jig-e, 'gig-e\ (pretend the e is upside down)
Yes, the preferred is "JIGA" -- it made me gag when I first found out! :-)
Dave
Andy Nguyen
+Seems that some of you are getting pretty silly about this.
+Compuserve originated the GIF standard, so if they want GIF pronounced "jif"
+then that is their perogative.
d...@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) wrote:
+And if no-one wants to follow the de jure standard, but rather a de
+facto standard of pronunciation, then what Compuserve says is not
+relevant. I dislike "cute" trade names that mangle normal English
+usage. Another point - if Compuserve pronounces it "jif", does that
+mean they don't hold the trademark on the "gif" pronunciation? Race
+you to the trademark office... :-)
You mean G*F is a trademark of CompuSwerve? Like UN*X is a TM of Bell
Labs? If so, they get to say how G*F should be pronounced, no? (And I'll
keep saying G*F as in "gargoyle." So sue me.)
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Paul Raveling
> In comp.graphics, gal...@uservx.plk.af.mil writes:
>
[about hard G versus soft G in GIF]
> > Based on all this, I pronounce it with a hard G, as if I'm saying "gift"
> >without the "t."
>
> From my Websters Collegiate:
>
> giga- \'jig-e, 'gig-e\ (pretend the e is upside down)
>
> Yes, the preferred is "JIGA" -- it made me gag when I first found out! :-)
When Canada went metric I saw some official notices about
how to pronounce kilometer -- something like "say 'kill-oh-meeter',
not 'killom-uhter'". It seems the "wrong" way won by
popular demand and common usage.
Maybe we should all switch to German, with it's predictable
pronunciation, so we'd all know "vott giffs".
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Stephen Wayne Miller
rave...@Unify.com (Paul Raveling) writes:
> When Canada went metric I saw some official notices about
> how to pronounce kilometer -- something like "say 'kill-oh-meeter',
> not 'killom-uhter'". It seems the "wrong" way won by
> popular demand and common usage.
How is "KILL-oh-meter" "the wrong way"? It's perfectly analogous to
"CENT-ih-meter", "MILL-ee-meter", etc.
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> In article <920419055...@maria.wustl.edu> mi...@maria.wustl.edu writes:
>>
>>I've heard it with a soft "g" and a hard "g". I figure that this is as good
>>a place as any to ask waht the consensus "right way" is for it.
>
> I always assumed it was along the lines of
>
> "Choosy mothers choose jif Peanut Butter"
>
> sounding, though sounding like Frank Gifford is a close second.
>
The answer is plain and simple. Prounce it with a hard "g". Otherwise
it makes no sense when you reverse it.
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JIMMY BAKLESSIS
I'am sorry if this is a FAQ (I'am new to the Net)...Can someone
please tell me where to find info about the format of a GIF file?
Please e-mail to me since I don't follow this Newsgroup.
I appreciate it.
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York University
Toronto, Ontario, CANADA.
Mike Haaland
You might try Compuserve since they have all the documentation online
and it's their format.
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