Where to Buy CS Cheap?
Bill Hilton
>This place sells OEM PS 7 for $49.
These are always rip-offs with stolen serial numbers. Think about it, if it
were genuine you could buy this for $49 and then the upgrade to CS for $160 and
be set.
>Does anybody know of a place that
>sells CS at a radical discount like this?
Sure, but it's the same deal with stolen software.
jjs
news:17r430l9grkp6je8a...@4ax.com...
> Why is there always one of you who haunts newsgroups and jumps in
> immediately with smart ass replies?
Fine, if one can live with the fact that the software
1. cannot be registered with Adobe
2. does not qualify for technical support
And the fact that the site security certificate is so sloppy that they have
to issue "explanations". Explanations are not certificates. They default to
the wrong page. Their shopping cart doesn't even work. It all looks shakey
to me.
I wonder what Adobe thinks of this?
Brian
> immediately with smart ass replies?
It's not a smart-ass reply at all; if the deal is too good to be true it
probably is, and I'll tell you I get no less than a dozen spam emails a
day offering me Photoshop and MS Office for under $100, none of which
are legit. Everyone else around here has seen the same trends
(especially since CS was released) and we're familiar with both the
bogus offers as well as the gullible nature of those who have no common
sense to realize something is asmiss.
So now you come waltzing in here asking the same dumb question, and then
get irate when you get an answer you didn't want to hear. Too bad.
> This site has been in business for a over a year offering this deal.
> You can rest assured if they weren't legal Adobe would have put them
> out of business long ago.
So they *may* be legit because they are selling an older version (anyone
who sells CS for this price is definitely a pirate); however, there is
still the question of whether it is legal to sell OEM software separate
from the hardware it originally was provided with, which I do not think
is the case.
In any event I've forwarded buyusa.com to Adobe's anti-piracy address;
we'll let them sort it out.
Bill Hilton
>This place sells OEM PS 7 for $49.
>
>This site has been in business for a over a year offering this deal.
Buy a copy and see if you can register it with Adobe, or if you can download
the 7.01 patch and load it (you'll find it's blocked because the serial # is on
Adobe's list), or if you can upgrade to CS with it.
If you can do all those things then it's a great deal. But you can't (or at
least the dozen or so people who've asked this same question couldn't), so why
not save $49 and download a pirate copy from a Warez site?
>Why is there always one of you who haunts newsgroups and jumps in
>immediately with smart ass replies?
Why did you think it was a "smart ass" reply?
>spare everyone your ignorance and your bad mouth.
"Bad mouth?" You're the only one using foul language, and as for my
"ignorance" I think you'll find dozens of others who agree with what I wrote.
Think about it (again) ... if you could get a legit full-featured copy of V7
with a valid serial number for $49 you could update to CS cheaply and there
would be no market for the full version of CS. If it sounds too good to be
true ...
Bill
>From: Ken Hall ken...@houston.rr.com
>On 17 Feb 2004 17:40:23 GMT, bhilt...@aol.comedy (Bill Hilton)
>wrote:
>Why is there always one of you who haunts newsgroups and jumps in
>immediately with smart ass replies?
>
>This site has been in business for a over a year offering this deal.
>You can rest assured if they weren't legal Adobe would have put them
>out of business long ago.
>
>If you're against bargains, so be it, but if you don't know the answer
>or don't want to be helpful butt out -- spare everyone your ignorance
>and your bad mouth.
>
>Ken
Tom Thomas
>By the way I forgot to give the address of the $45 deal originally.
>
>http://faked,.domain.information/
There was nothing "smartass" about Bill's reply. It's just that he's
been around long enough to see more than enough people spamming for
these sites - collecting credit card numbers and selling pirated
software (if you receive anything at all).
Just because Adobe doesn't have the resources to pursue the hundeds
(if not thousands) of warez sellers on the 'net doesn't mean they
don't care, nor does it prove that this outfit is capable of
legitimately selling a $600 product for $45.
-------------------------------
Tom
Unsolicited advertisements cheerfully ignored.
Brian
> (or at least the dozen or so people who've asked this same question
> couldn't), so why not save $49 and download a pirate copy from a
> Warez site?
He probably works for that website, and just trolled on in here to
promote his illegal warez...
8^)
Eric Gill
@nofreakinspam.com:
One thing no one has mentioned.
"buysusa.com" is a blatant attempt to piggyback on "buyusa.com", which has
the legitimacy of the U.S. trade commission and many large, credible
retailers.
This pretty much a big, blaring neon-encrusted and siren-topped sign the
boys running it aren't trustworthy.
Tom Thomas
>One thing no one has mentioned.
>
>"buysusa.com" is a blatant attempt to piggyback on "buyusa.com", which has
>the legitimacy of the U.S. trade commission and many large, credible
>retailers.
>
>This pretty much a big, blaring neon-encrusted and siren-topped sign the
>boys running it aren't trustworthy.
Not to mention that all of the registrant information for the site is
Canadian. This probably further confounds enforcement of U.S.
copyright laws. "Buys USA" ... yeah, right.
Rich
> This place sells OEM PS 7 for $49. Does anybody know of a place that
> sells CS at a radical discount like this?
>
Already got Adobe Creative Suite CS so:
>
> Adobe Photoshop with Image Ready CS v8.0 (windows) for Sale - Unregistered
/
> Un-Activated / Boxed as New.
>
> RRP over £600
>
> Serious offers to
>
> fuzzi...@tiscali.co.uk
Buyer collects or pays carriage (South Yorkshire, UK)
Povl H. Pedersen
> This place sells OEM PS 7 for $49. Does anybody know of a place that
> sells CS at a radical discount like this?
In Germany on eBay, brand new Photoshop 6 OEM CDs are sold for
50 Euros. And in Germany it is legal to sell/buy OEM software.
(Microsoft lost in German High Court).
I bought one from lapcenter, and I had no trouble registering it
with Adobe, or installing the upgrade. So I assume these are
legal versions.
jjs
"Povl H. Pedersen" <nos...@home.terminal.dk> wrote in message
news:slrnc37h4j...@via-epia.home.terminal.dk...
> On 2004-02-17, Ken Hall <ken...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> > This place sells OEM PS 7 for $49. Does anybody know of a place that
> > sells CS at a radical discount like this?
>
> In Germany on eBay, brand new Photoshop 6 OEM CDs are sold for
> 50 Euros. And in Germany it is legal to sell/buy OEM software.
> (Microsoft lost in German High Court).
It appears from Adobe's EULA that German citizens have greater recourse than
the rest of us if the software does not behave as documented. True?
Brian
>
> "buysusa.com" is a blatant attempt to piggyback on "buyusa.com"
HA! I didn't notice that at all (not that I have a clue who buyusa.com
is, either)... notice how the guy never came back (as expected, of course).
Tacit
Correction: They sell a bootleg, pirated copy of Adobe PS 7 with a pirate
serial number for $49.
There is no legal way to sell OEM software without the associated hardware.
These sites, usually run from home computers using hacked DNS entries and often
run out of Eastern Europe 9where they are difficult for American companies to
reach), go up and down like mushrooms. The "company" (i say "company" because
most often it is not a company--it's one guy) may use one business name for
years, but that "business' may exist on 200 different ISPs and use 17 different
postal mailboxes in that time.
One classic case is "Exim Computers," a "company" that claims to sell Mac and
PC laptops and software at very low prices and claims to have been in business
for years is an outfit calling itself "Exim Computers." It is run by a single
person, who uses the aliases "Vitaly V. Jones," "Vitaly Reinberg," and so on,
who runs his "business" out of the former Soviet Union. Poor enforcement of IP
laws in the old ruins of the USSR, and the fact that he changes names,
addresses, and Web addresses often, have so far managed to keep him ahead of
lawyers and angry customers.
Moral:
- People get scammed by these pirates because they WANT to believe that the
products and prices are good.
- A person can operate for years selling fake software; that does not
necessarily mean the offers are legit.
- The Web allows people to set up addresses and postal drops that make it easy
to conceal where they are operating from. You may be buying your bootleg
software from a pirate in Khazakistan and not even know it. Good luck getting
your money back if you don't get what you paid for, or don't get anything at
all!
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Chris Cox
<ken...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> On 17 Feb 2004 17:40:23 GMT, bhilt...@aol.comedy (Bill Hilton)
> wrote:
>
> >>From: Ken Hall ken...@houston.rr.com
> >
> >>This place sells OEM PS 7 for $49.
Funny, since there is no such thing as OEM PS 7.
> >These are always rip-offs with stolen serial numbers. Think about it, if it
> >were genuine you could buy this for $49 and then the upgrade to CS for $160
> >and
> >be set.
> >
> >>Does anybody know of a place that
> >>sells CS at a radical discount like this?
> >
> >Sure, but it's the same deal with stolen software.
>
> Why is there always one of you who haunts newsgroups and jumps in
> immediately with smart ass replies?
>
> This site has been in business for a over a year offering this deal.
> You can rest assured if they weren't legal Adobe would have put them
> out of business long ago.
Rest assured, they are illegal.
Some foreign countries don't have great enforcement of copyright
violations - so it's difficult if not impossible to shut the sites
down.
> If you're against bargains, so be it, but if you don't know the answer
> or don't want to be helpful butt out -- spare everyone your ignorance
> and your bad mouth.
No, he was right on the money.
Chris
jjs
<cc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> [... lost attributes ...]
> > This site has been in business for a over a year offering this deal.
> > You can rest assured if they weren't legal Adobe would have put them
> > out of business long ago.
>
> Rest assured, they are illegal.
> Some foreign countries don't have great enforcement of copyright
> violations - so it's difficult if not impossible to shut the sites
> down.
What we need is a bounty on those perps.
Povl H. Pedersen
What we need is a military force to hunt down spammers and
industrial software pirates.
jjs
Well, I just received notice this morning "Take vacation or lose it!", so
maybe I'll unpack the old anacronistic weapons; armor, battle axes, etc and
go around the USA and Canada, hunt down these thieving and spamming bastards
and chop their lines, smash their computers, and recycle their meat parts to
dogfood. Ya know, that is probably a million-dollar Hollywood script idea
and here I'm just giving it away.
Brian
original message last week (BTW, where'd he go? I guess he couldn't take
the heat in the kitchen, as predicted...). Come in to work this morning
to find the usual boatload of spam, and lo and behold here's not one but
five separate emails from buysusa.com and their killer deals on
Photoshop and other products.
Dutifully reported to Adobe's piracy email, of course. (Email address
intentionally NOT posqted so as to help them keep the spam down in that
inbox.)
Tacit
>to find the usual boatload of spam, and lo and behold here's not one but
>five separate emails from buysusa.com and their killer deals on
>Photoshop and other products.
Looks like buyusa.com has already been shut down.
I'm sure they'll be back, though--different name, different pitch, same bootleg
software.
Mike Tuthill
>>Come in to work this morning
>>to find the usual boatload of spam, and lo and behold here's not one but
>>five separate emails from buysusa.com and their killer deals on
>>Photoshop and other products.
>
>Looks like buyusa.com has already been shut down.
Actually they are still there. You probably left out the "s" between
the "y" and the "u" as in "buysusa".
jjs
<nofrea...@nofreakinspam.com> wrote:
> Dutifully reported to Adobe's piracy email, of course. (Email address
> intentionally NOT posqted so as to help them keep the spam down in that
> inbox.)
They are in Canada, right? Can Adobe touch them, or is a job for Guido?
jjs
(Tacit) wrote:
> >Come in to work this morning
> >to find the usual boatload of spam, and lo and behold here's not one but
> >five separate emails from buysusa.com and their killer deals on
> >Photoshop and other products.
>
> Looks like buyusa.com has already been shut down.
Nope. They are back already.
http://www.buySusa.com/page/my_gtn/splash.asp
almost same as
http://www.buyusa.com/page/my_gtn/splash.asp
Their intention is so perfectly clear.
LauraK
>> intentionally NOT posqted so as to help them keep the spam down in that
>> inbox.)
>
>They are in Canada, right? Can Adobe touch them, or is a job for Guido?
They may be in Canada but The IP resolves to a site in Lakeland, Fla.. The site
is also on Windows hosting and only hosts 2 sites: buysusa.com and bysusa.com
Hosting computers are usually Linux and have 100 or more sites on them.
There is a problem with their security certificate.
Buy from them if you want, but I'd suggest keeping a real careful watch on what
gets purchased on your credit card right after they get the number.
lau...@madmousergraphics.com
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