Gif pronounciation
Scott Hedge
I'm noy sure if there is an "official" pronounciation, but I and most
other people I have heard say "Jif" like the peanut butter. Although I
have heard it the other way, Jif is far more common.
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Alison Wheeler
Brian D Diehm wrote:
>
> In article <itecdtp-1908...@166.66.52.71>
> ite...@marauder.millersv.edu (Mac 21 ITEC DTP Lab) writes:
> >Help! I need a ruling on how to say .gif
> Knowing all that, I pronounce it hard, since it is an acronym for
> "Graphic
> Image Format," and we all know that the word "graphic" is pronounced
> soft,
> just like "Juraffic."
Adding a voice to Gif as in 'Graphic'
History rules, ie. where an acronym comes from pther words then
pronounce them as that word.
For what its worth, i do recollect that the photoshop movies use a hard
G (i think??)
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Help! I need a ruling on how to say .gif
in gift? Your help would be greatly appreciated. T.Bell
Brian D Diehm
In article <itecdtp-1908...@166.66.52.71> ite...@marauder.millersv.edu (Mac 21 ITEC DTP Lab) writes:
Well, the folks who created the GIF standard supposedly ruled that it is to
be pronounced with a soft G, like jif. Someone once, to my face, supported
this by claiming that in Engish, "gi" is always a soft sound. As I replied,
"Sure, just like the word 'gift!'."
Knowing all that, I pronounce it hard, since it is an acronym for "Graphic
Image Format," and we all know that the word "graphic" is pronounced soft,
just like "Juraffic."
In other words, they may have created the format, but they don't know diddley
about 1) English, or 2) pronunciation.
-Brian Diehm
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Electrolyte
Mac 21 ITEC DTP Lab wrote:
> Help! I need a ruling on how to say .gif
> Is it pronounced Jiff, like in Jiffy peanutbutter or is pronounced
> Gif, as
> in gift? Your help would be greatly appreciated. T.Bell
The only times I've ever heard people say a .gif file, is on a tv
computer show called dots corner or something, this guy said gif, as in
Gift... and whenever else I hear it, it is pronounced gif as in gift. So
to come to a damn good conclusion, you say .gif, as in gift.
Electrolyte
Shoshanna
On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:01:22 -0400, Electrolyte <ges...@ciaccess.com>
wrote:
>
>The only times I've ever heard people say a .gif file, is on a tv
>computer show called dots corner or something, this guy said gif, as in
>Gift... and whenever else I hear it, it is pronounced gif as in gift. So
>to come to a damn good conclusion, you say .gif, as in gift.
>Electrolyte
>
I beg to differ. Since the inception of the GIF format, every
graphics designer and software engineer of my acquaintance has
pronounced it (and continues to prononunce it) with a soft g-- as in
JIF. It actually makes sense to do so; first, because a soft g sound
is more easily and instantly distinguished from the "t" in TIF than
would be the hard "g;" and second, because the physical mechanics of
speaking the word are more pleasant with the soft "g" than they are
with the more harsh pronounciation. Try it, and see for yourself.
Nevertheless, I doubt that the fate of the world is riding on this
one, and it seems likely that if anyone is truly wedded to the hard
"g" pronounciation, we'll all manage to survive it.
Shoshanna Moser
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Bruno Fernandes
equ...@harborside.com (Shoshanna) wrote:
>I beg to differ. Since the inception of the GIF format, every
>graphics designer and software engineer of my acquaintance has
>pronounced it (and continues to prononunce it) with a soft g-- as in
>JIF.
This is the correct way to pronounce it. However it does not fall in line with
wha the acronym actually stands for. True mastery comes in knowing the origin
with the correct pronounciation, yet maintaining a hard-line for saying it with
a hard G as in GIFT.
Though, I wish people would just say PNG and dump GIF completely...
Bruno
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Jake
if we were to pronounce GIF as in Jiffy, we would have to pronounce JPEG
as J-Pedge
jake
Kenny A. Chaffin
Brian D Diehm wrote:
> In article <itecdtp-1908...@166.66.52.71>
> ite...@marauder.millersv.edu (Mac 21 ITEC DTP Lab) writes:
> >Help! I need a ruling on how to say .gif
> >Is it pronounced Jiff, like in Jiffy peanutbutter or is pronounced
> Gif, as
> >in gift? Your help would be greatly appreciated. T.Bell
>
> Well, the folks who created the GIF standard supposedly ruled that it
> is to
> be pronounced with a soft G, like jif. Someone once, to my face,
> supported
> this by claiming that in Engish, "gi" is always a soft sound. As I
> replied,
> "Sure, just like the word 'gift!'."
>
> Knowing all that, I pronounce it hard, since it is an acronym for
> "Graphic
> Image Format," and we all know that the word "graphic" is pronounced
> soft,
> just like "Juraffic."
>
> In other words, they may have created the format, but they don't know
> diddley
> about 1) English, or 2) pronunciation.
>
> -Brian Diehm
> --
> Tektronix, Inc. "Any ideas or opinions expressed here do not
> neces-
> 14080 SW Karl Braun Dr sarily reflect the ideas or opinions of my
> employer."
> PO Box 500, M/S 48-214
> Beaverton, OR 97077 brian...@tek.com (503) 627-3437 (503)
> 627-3520 FAX
Brian,
I agree _completely_ it is pronounced like gif-t. In addition there
is a jif image type.
KAC
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Scott Hedge
Jake wrote:
Ummm... no. There is a hard G and a soft G in English, my friend. Just
because we say "giraffe" or "genius" with a soft g does NOT mean we say
rug like "rudge" or bug like "budge" . :-)
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Mark Durgee
Mac 21 ITEC DTP Lab <ite...@marauder.millersv.edu> wrote in article
<itecdtp-1908...@166.66.52.71>...
> Help! I need a ruling on how to say .gif
> Is it pronounced Jiff, like in Jiffy peanutbutter or is pronounced Gif,
as
> in gift? Your help would be greatly appreciated. T.Bell
I pronounce it with a hard G figuring that it stands for Graphic, not
Jraphic. But on the Adobe multimedia CD's they pronounce with the soft G.
Mark Durgee
Marius Baciu
dmented wrote:
> >
> Maybe..but I doubt Frank Jifford would agree.. ;-)
I doubt proper nouns follow any rules in English, and if Frank Gifford
wanted to pronnounce his name like Jiff.. who can say otherwise? Look
at Ralph Fines... it's "Rafe" not the usual "Ralf" or Tony Dorsett...
same goes for GIF, if the creators decided it's JIF, so be it. You'd
name and pronounce anything you create anything you want, wouldn't you?
S.Rogers
I guess Compuserve would be the people to ask, I believe they invented the
format (correct me if I'm wrong). I have heard it pronounced with a hard G
as in GIFt.
Steve Rogers
John Glasscock
Clearly, this is a can of würz.
Compuserve didn't invent the format, the acquired the rights to it.
*MY* preference is hard "g" gif-t, however, the earliest reference I
heard were soft "g" jif, as in giraffe. Since it is an acronym for
Graphic Interchange Format, one would reasonably think gif-t would rule,
although others have pointed out some outstanding counter examples. I
have never heard a reason why it would be soft "g" jif, other than the
earliest usage. But then, I personally prefer often to be pronounce
without the "t," contrary to advice of _The American Heritage Dictionary
of the English Language_, which I regard as the most scholarly and
authoritative of American English.
Of course, when the topic comes up you can use it as an excuse to talk
about the history of its usage and the debate that has raged here and
sound very knowledgeable. :)
Mac 21 ITEC DTP Lab wrote:
>
> Help! I need a ruling on how to say .gif
> Is it pronounced Jiff, like in Jiffy peanutbutter or is pronounced Gif, as in gift? Your help would be greatly appreciated. T.Bell
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On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:28:07 +0000, John Glasscock
<jgla...@indiana.edu> wrote:
>Clearly, this is a can of würz.
>Compuserve didn't invent the format, the acquired the rights to it.
>> Is it pronounced Jiff, like in Jiffy peanutbutter or is pronounced Gif, as in gift? Your help would be greatly appreciated. T.Bell
Actually, so far everyone on this thread has been wrong. The correct
pronunciation involves a hard "x", soft "k" and silent "q". This
dates back to the cave paintings of ancient man.
If you people spent a little *less* time working with HTML, graphics,
and furthering the development of the web and a little *more* time
with inconsequential nonsense you'd know this. Try to keep your
priorities straight!
-Dave
FotoDave
How about JPG? Do you have a pronunciation for that? Or do you read it as
Jay-Peg as I normally do?
J. Bird
> Adding a voice to Gif as in 'Graphic'
> History rules, ie. where an acronym comes from pther words then
> pronounce them as that word.
>
> For what its worth, i do recollect that the photoshop movies use a hard
> G (i think??)
However, any formal documentation on the GIF format states that Compuserve
pronounces it 'JIF'.
Thank God we won't have this problem with the PNG format.
It pronounced PoNG, right? ;-)
Darkhop
Tom Lane wrote:
> GIF pronunciation is a lost cause --- I'd suggest everybody just quit
> wasting bandwidth on it.
Sure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't fun while it lasted!
And just to follow up on the "gigabyte" thing, I checked my dictionary
at home this time and found it gives both pronunciations as correct.
Yers,
John
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Radek
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:43:45 +0000, Scott Hedge <ssm...@wordsouth.com>
wrote:
> The idea that "gif" should be said with a hard g because "graphic" has
>a hard G is just silly. Think about it: the "u" in SCUBA stands for
>underwater, yet we don't say it like "scubba" do we? No. the "o" ROM
>stands for "only" yet do we say it like "rome"? No. It's pronounced
>"Jif" . Why fight it?
Don't you think "Jiff" sounds rather funny?
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Bruno Fernandes
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:43:45 +0000, Scott Hedge <ssm...@wordsouth.com>
wrote:
> The idea that "gif" should be said with a hard g because "graphic" has
>a hard G is just silly. Think about it: the "u" in SCUBA stands for
>underwater, yet we don't say it like "scubba" do we? No. the "o" ROM
>stands for "only" yet do we say it like "rome"? No. It's pronounced
>"Jif" . Why fight it?
Interesting thoughts. 1. You couldn't say "scubba" because it would need two
b's for that given underwater sound. You would not pronounce ROM as ROME
because without the "e" you wouldn't get that sound from the "o"
GIF with a hard G is just natural. It also provides a distinction from the
format already labelled JIF. Oh, and I've been using computer graphics longer
than the format has been around, so I'll call it what pleases me. :)
I'll often use both pronunciations in one conversation just to keep the other
person alert. But when I write, it's always a hard G. :)
Jake Lodwick
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The case for:
-Gift
-Give
-Gill
-Gig
-Gimp
-Graphics Interface Format (or whatever GIF stands for)
-Jif Peanut Butter is spelled with a "J", it would be stupid to pronounce
Gif's "Jif". Image telling someone on the phone to check out the cool new
"Jif" on your web site. They could easily be confused into thinking that you
web site is made with peanut butter instead of Photoshop, and could,
theoretically kill themselvesbecause they wouldn't know what the hell's going
on.
The case against:
-Gin
-Gib (as in id software's Quake)
I can't think of any others... I guess it's pronounced Gif(t).
Jake Lodwick
ja...@skyline.net
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The case for:
<BR> -Gift
<BR> -Give
<BR> -Gill
<BR> -Gig
<BR> -Gimp
<BR> -<U>G</U>raphics Interface Format (or whatever GIF
stands for)
<BR> -Jif Peanut Butter is spelled with a "J", it would
be stupid to pronounce Gif's "Jif". Image telling someone on the phone
to check out the cool new "Jif" on your web site. They could easily be
confused into thinking that you web site is made with peanut butter instead
of Photoshop, and could, theoretically kill themselvesbecause they wouldn't
know what the hell's going on.
<P>The case against:
<BR> -Gin
<BR> -Gib (as in id software's Quake)
<BR>
<BR> I can't think of any others... I guess it's pronounced
Gif(t).
<BR> Jake Lodwick
<BR> ja...@skyline.net</HTML>
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Jane Krate Duda
Oh golly -- and I've been calling it PiNG... ;-)
Breaker
On Sat, 23 Aug 1997 17:47:48 GMT, rad...@icenter.net (Radek) wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:43:45 +0000, Scott Hedge <ssm...@wordsouth.com>
>wrote:
>
>> The idea that "gif" should be said with a hard g because "graphic" has
>>a hard G is just silly. Think about it: the "u" in SCUBA stands for
>>underwater, yet we don't say it like "scubba" do we? No. the "o" ROM
>>stands for "only" yet do we say it like "rome"? No. It's pronounced
>>"Jif" . Why fight it?
>
>Don't you think "Jiff" sounds rather funny?
>
>
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>Radek
>http://www.icenter.net/~radekp
I just ordered GifAnimator from Ulead and the folks done there
pronounce it Jif...actually I pronounce it Gif but it's probably my
left over Southern accent speaking. It's not how you say it that's
important, it's how you use 'em.
Breaker Design
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bke...@soundcom.net
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froggie
I bought a MS Bookshelf 98. Gif in it has a hard g as in gift--- a man
speaks it out.
however, the question is why we should always trust M$?
Personnally, I'd speak it as a soft g.
Larry Jaques wrote in article <33ffd492...@news.millennianet.com>...
>equ...@harborside.com (Shoshanna) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:01:22 -0400, Electrolyte <ges...@ciaccess.com>
>>thought wrong.
>
>>I beg to differ. Since the inception of the GIF format, every
>>graphics designer and software engineer of my acquaintance has
>>pronounced it (and continues to prononunce it) with a soft g-- as in
>>JIF. It actually makes sense to do so; first, because a soft g sound
>
>The HARD g--as in JIF--is what CompuServe told me to use years ago.
>
Tristan Gilder
At some point, "Kenny A. Chaffin" <ke...@kacweb.com> waffles on ....
>> This is SUCH a cool thread!!
>
>------------^^^^^ is that pronounced SUK or Sushi or ????
Actualy if you think about it logicaly, its pronounced "sasquatch"
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