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krunch....@yahoo.com

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Mar 7, 2008, 2:29:25 PM3/7/08
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Hello,

I have a photo that was folded in half, unfortunately,
and I wonder if either Photoshop and/or The GIMP are
able to remove this crease.

Thank you for any assistance.

Jerrymander

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Mar 7, 2008, 2:58:58 PM3/7/08
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1) Open a Photoshop or GIMP window.
2) Carefully unfold the photograph.
3) Tape it to your monitor with the picture side facing the monitor.
4) In Photoshop or GIMP, select the Blur tool.
5) Run the cursor along the crease.
6) Carefully remove the photograph from the monitor, and the crease will
be invisible.

KatWoman

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Mar 7, 2008, 3:23:03 PM3/7/08
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"Jerrymander" <gka...@cox.net> wrote in message
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IWO there is no automated one button fix using those programs

however YOU can repair the image if you know how to use PS
learn cloner and it's options and/or healing tools

I don't know GIMP

restoration is one of the more difficult tasks in PS and should be done by
an expert if you want a professional result
if you are not all that picky a repair by a beginner as yourself may suffice


Ed Mullikin

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Mar 7, 2008, 3:24:39 PM3/7/08
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"Jerrymander" <gka...@cox.net> wrote in message
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I have done what you wish to do in either Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro. I
forget which. It's been so long ago that I can't remember details. Play
with it. You have nothing to loose.

peter

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Mar 7, 2008, 5:08:11 PM3/7/08
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> I have a photo that was folded in half, unfortunately,
> and I wonder if either Photoshop and/or The GIMP are
> able to remove this crease.

Once you scanned it into the computer, it's easy to fix using the clone tool
with the above apps.


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Ken Hart

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Mar 7, 2008, 5:41:33 PM3/7/08
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"Jerrymander" <gka...@cox.net> wrote in message
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You have white-out spots on your monitor, too, don't you?!
BTW, that's not a holder for your coffee cup...


HEMI-Powered

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Mar 7, 2008, 6:31:23 PM3/7/08
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peter added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Having done a number of these as well as badly discolored B &Ws,
the degree of crease et al has a LOT to do with how easy it is to
clone. Sometimes, the best one can do is blur it some and hope for
the best. I suppose the OP could post their picture(s) to some
binary NG so people could take a crack at fixing them ...

--
HP, aka Jerry

"Surely you jest - and don't call me Shirley!" - from the movie
"Airplane!"

Charles

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Mar 7, 2008, 6:51:04 PM3/7/08
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<krunch....@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I have a photo that was folded in half, unfortunately,
> and I wonder if either Photoshop

Healing brush? Clone tool?

Photoshop offers several methods to fix a crease.


Charles

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Mar 7, 2008, 6:55:29 PM3/7/08
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> 1) Open a Photoshop or GIMP window.
> 2) Carefully unfold the photograph.
> 3) Tape it to your monitor with the picture side facing the monitor.
> 4) In Photoshop or GIMP, select the Blur tool.
> 5) Run the cursor along the crease.
> 6) Carefully remove the photograph from the monitor, and the crease will
> be invisible.

Tape it to your monitor? Your attempt at humor is sad.

Folks come here for help. Please don't prey on them.


Roy G

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Mar 7, 2008, 7:14:28 PM3/7/08
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"Jerrymander" <gka...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Hi.

Why not go back to old fashioned ways.
Soak it in water, with a drop or two of detergent, for an hour or so.
Put it onto a flat surface and gently dab it with a sponge until it is as
dry as you can get it.
Put it between sheets of lint free blotting paper, with a weight on top and
leave it to dry. They used to make special photographic blotting paper, but
probably don't anymore.
This should reduce the creasing considerably, with just a bit of luck.

Roy G


liva...@gmail.com

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Mar 7, 2008, 8:44:00 PM3/7/08
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On Mar 7, 2:58 pm, Jerrymander <gka...@cox.net> wrote:

use the clone tool to remove the crease in photoshop (not sure if it's
available in GIMP,) I use Serif's photoplus which has the clone tool
it is a lot less expensive then photoshop. livagain1@gmail

Ken Hart

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Mar 7, 2008, 11:20:30 PM3/7/08
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"Roy G" <roy.g...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Your procedure is generally good, but I would add a first step: Make the
best possible copy of the damaged picture, whether it be a scan or a
photogrpahic negative.
It's possible that soaking it will have no ill effect on the photo, and will
soften the emulsion and base sufficiently that the crease can be flattened
out. It's also possible that the soaking will destroy the photo.


Bob Williams

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Mar 8, 2008, 2:37:30 AM3/8/08
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Easy as pie. I do it all the time.
With Photoshop or Photoshop Elements,
1.) Select the clone tool, set at 100% opacity and check "aligned" box.
2.) Enlarge the image to 300% so you can easily see what you are doing.
3.)Select a SOFT brush with a size slightly larger than the width of the
crease. (Try 7-10 pixels for starters).
4.)Alt click on a "clean" spot very close to the crease.
5.)Drag your brush down the middle of the crease and it will magically
disappear.
You will have to "play around" with the process if the crease has many
limbs, but this is the general idea........Good luck.
Bob Williams

Dudley Hanks

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Mar 8, 2008, 2:58:47 AM3/8/08
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"Ken Hart" <kwh...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Perhaps, before soaking, etc, try placing it inside a book and leaving it
for a couple of days / weeks. Adding more books on top adds weight and
improves flattening affect.

If this works, it removes the possibility of water damage...

Good Luck,
Dudley


Ursus Californicus

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Mar 8, 2008, 7:39:17 AM3/8/08
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"Ken Hart" <kwh...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
>> Why not go back to old fashioned ways.
>> Soak it in water, with a drop or two of detergent, for an hour or so.
>> Put it onto a flat surface and gently dab it with a sponge until it is as
>> dry as you can get it.
>> Put it between sheets of lint free blotting paper, with a weight on top
>> and leave it to dry. They used to make special photographic blotting
>> paper, but probably don't anymore.
>> This should reduce the creasing considerably, with just a bit of luck.
>>
Good advice, Roy, but I'd add one thing: instead of just any detergent,
which might have damaging chemicals, use a drop of Kodak PhotoFlo in about a
quart of water. PhotoFlo is the closest thing to a "neutral" detergent as
you can easily get.

-- Theo, the big bipolar bear


Celcius

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Mar 8, 2008, 8:05:25 AM3/8/08
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"peter" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Good advice, Peter.
ALSO make sure that you zoom in on parts of the crease and use a small brush
on the clone tool. You can increase / decrease the diameter / hardness. Try
a very small area and see the result. You can do Ctrl + Z and try again.
Depending on the "surroundings" of the crease, you can play with increasing
/ decreasing the diameter / hardness. I repeat, your clown tool should be
small so as to hone in on the right area and color.
I hope this helps.
Marcel


Garry Douglas

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Mar 8, 2008, 8:56:04 AM3/8/08
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"Celcius" <celc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I repeat, your clown tool should be small so as to hone in on the right
area and color.
> I hope this helps.

It put a smile on my face :-)

I've been looking everywhere for the clown tool but suspect it's in a later
version of PS!

Garry


Celcius

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Mar 8, 2008, 9:55:27 AM3/8/08
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"Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote in message
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Of course, I meant clone ;-)))
If I remember correctly, it was in version7, but I didn't use Photoshop
before that ...
Take care,
Marcel


Garry Douglas

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Mar 8, 2008, 10:11:31 AM3/8/08
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"Celcius" <celc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No, it was in 5.0 LE which obviously stood for Laughter Edition :-)

measekite

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Mar 8, 2008, 12:15:34 PM3/8/08
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It is easy unless the fold is in such a place where using the clone tool
or a healing brush will not blend well.

Dave Cohen

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Mar 8, 2008, 12:26:26 PM3/8/08
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Probably the way to go. I don't use the Adobe offerings but most
equivalents also support scratch removal. I believe that tool picks up
adjacent good area for a better blend. Unlike manual methods, you can
play to your heart's content (which is why I love digital photography),
so just experiment to see which works best.
Dave Cohen

aglet

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Mar 8, 2008, 4:42:40 PM3/8/08
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"Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote in message
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Use a tear-shaped brush with the clown tool.


HEMI-Powered

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Mar 8, 2008, 5:30:23 PM3/8/08
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aglet added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

>>> If I remember correctly, it was in version7, but I didn't
>>> use Photoshop before that ...
>>

>> No, it was in 5.0 LE which obviously stood for Laughter
>> Edition :-)

Ah, yes, PS 5.0 LE, I remember it well, but not fondly. It came
with my flatbed scanner many moons ago, what a POS! I never heard
"Laughter Edition", but I'd say it fits!

Frank ess

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Mar 8, 2008, 6:06:43 PM3/8/08
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You need to home your looking skills.

Pudentame

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Mar 8, 2008, 6:37:07 PM3/8/08
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In which case use a lot of alternate points to clone from and apply it
as lots of tiny dots like spotting an old fashioned B&W print.

HEMI-Powered

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Mar 8, 2008, 8:37:10 PM3/8/08
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Frank ess added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...

>> I repeat, your clown tool should be small so as to hone in


>> on the right area and color.
>>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> It put a smile on my face :-)
>>
>> I've been looking everywhere for the clown tool but suspect
>> it's in a later version of PS!
>

> You need to home your looking skills.
>

ah, yes, Frank Ass, just as imbecilic here as in the "autos" NG.
you want to tell us about how you "home" your "looking skills"?

Vass

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Mar 9, 2008, 9:30:19 AM3/9/08
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"Bob Williams" <mytbob...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> I do it all the time.

you wanna store them better then ;-)
--
Vass


jjs

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Mar 13, 2008, 8:26:34 AM3/13/08
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"Dudley Hanks" <hanks....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps, before soaking, etc, try placing it inside a book and leaving it

> for a couple of days / weeks. [...]

Books, books... I've heard of them. Would it work if I just loaded up a
Kindle instead?


Pudentame

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Mar 13, 2008, 9:52:23 AM3/13/08
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What's a Kindle?

Peter

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"Pudentame" <no....@no.were.invalid> wrote in message
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A group of kittens?
http://apluspetgoods.com/petsupplies/cat-glossary.php#K

--
Peter

Stewy

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Mar 13, 2008, 10:42:48 AM3/13/08
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In article <13t5b5a...@corp.supernews.com>,
"Garry Douglas" <ga...@douglasSPMOFF1959.plus.com> wrote:

Duh, and I thought Limited Edition meant it was a rare copy...

Stewy

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Mar 13, 2008, 10:41:23 AM3/13/08
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In article <d56dnagE74mdgU7a...@giganews.com>,
"Frank ess" <fr...@fshe2fs.com> wrote:

I especially love the lens flare and smudge tools. Manufacturers have
spent years trying to eliminate them then Photoshop goes and makes them
available to everyone.

Stewy

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Mar 13, 2008, 10:38:14 AM3/13/08
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In article <SQzAj.61838$Pv2....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>,
measekite <inkys...@oem.com> wrote:

The biggest problem I find with this technique is try to clone out a
crease near the subject's eye - any advice on this?

jjs

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"Pudentame" <no....@no.were.invalid> wrote in message
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> What's a Kindle?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FI73MA/?tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_p2bg741rk_b

I have a couple for R&D. Pretty cool for a first effort.


jjs

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"Stewy" <anyone...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I especially love the lens flare and smudge tools. Manufacturers have
> spent years trying to eliminate them then Photoshop goes and makes them
> available to everyone.

Yep, and filters to create grain, out-of-focus, cross-processing, all that.
Next they will have an add-camera-shake filter. Then a Holga filter. In the
end we will have people with $5000 cameras emulating $2 throw-away film
cameras.


Dave

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Mar 13, 2008, 11:31:21 AM3/13/08
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>
>The biggest problem I find with this technique is try to clone out a
>crease near the subject's eye - any advice on this?


Consider replacing the eye

Dave

Pudentame

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Mar 13, 2008, 12:14:26 PM3/13/08
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Oh, OK.

Doesn't look like it has the weight to flatten out the crease in a print
though.

jjs

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Mar 13, 2008, 12:40:16 PM3/13/08
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"Pudentame" <no....@no.were.invalid> wrote in message
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> jjs wrote:

> Oh, OK.
>
> Doesn't look like it has the weight to flatten out the crease in a print
> though.

Not even if I load it up with 100 books?

Seriously, I do some contract PS work, and have fixed a number of creased
photos. It's not hard. It's just donkey work.


Pudentame

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Mar 13, 2008, 12:42:14 PM3/13/08
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Whenever I've had to do this, I use a very small, soft brush (2-3
pixels, 10 hardness and select the closest "clean" point I can for my
source.

Closest means closest color value ... you may have to use parts of the
other eye to build up the eye that's under the damage.

I also set opacity and flow at about 50%.

Instead of dragging, I use a click, click, click ... moving the pointer
around like manually spotting a print.

I un-check the "aligned" box. I want my source to stay within that
"clean" spot, but I change the source point frequently to achieve a
blend of tones matching the surrounding area that becomes harder to see
in the repaired image.

All this is done on a duplicate layer. If it goes horribly wrong,
discard the layer and start again. But it should work, so you can
flatten the layer into the image later.

It's the same technique you'd use to remove the reflection of strobes
from a portrait subject's eye-glasses. It'll take a long time to build
up the correction, but it'll be damn near un-detectable in the end.

John

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Mar 13, 2008, 1:10:06 PM3/13/08
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:57:19 -0500, <jjs> wrote:

>http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FI73MA/?tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_p2bg741rk_b
>
>I have a couple for R&D. Pretty cool for a first effort.

You have too many toys ;>)

JD

jjs

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And I am paid for it!


jrblack10

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Mar 13, 2008, 2:24:01 PM3/13/08
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I haven't used it my self, but Akvis has a tool just for this
purpose...
But I have used other Akvis tools and they are quite nice.

http://akvis.com/en/retoucher/examples-image-restoration.php


Stephen Keefrider

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Mar 14, 2008, 5:49:15 PM3/14/08
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Microsoft's PictureIt does a pretty good job. PictureIt is bundled
with Microsoft WORKS. It may also be in their OFFICE package.

Jean Pierre Daviau

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Mar 15, 2008, 5:07:04 PM3/15/08
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Just google
crease tool in photoshop

or use the magic words crease go away!


stuseven

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Mar 16, 2008, 9:40:09 AM3/16/08
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On Mar 7, 3:29 pm, krunch.kapt...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a photo that was folded in half, unfortunately,
> and I wonder if either Photoshop and/or The GIMP are
> able to remove this crease.
>
> Thank you for any assistance.

the best way to remove that crease is print a new copy.
problem solved.

Dave

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Mar 16, 2008, 11:12:51 AM3/16/08
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or a smoothing iron

Frank Wrap

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Mar 17, 2008, 3:23:47 AM3/17/08
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:29:25 -0800 (PST), krunch....@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a photo that was folded in half, unfortunately,
> and I wonder if either Photoshop and/or The GIMP are
> able to remove this crease.
>
> Thank you for any assistance.

If you like freeware you might want to test this small standalone app on
your picture http://www.hanovsolutions.com/?prod=PhotoWipe

Bob Williams

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Mar 26, 2008, 5:37:01 AM3/26/08
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Mainly, I do it for friends and family who want to restore family photos
that are 50-75 years old.
Often they have been passed down through several generations.
Bob

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Mike Russell

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Mar 31, 2008, 7:27:08 PM3/31/08
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Here's my version, mainly using the dodge tool to lighten the dark areas:
http://mike.russell-home.net/tmp/SavageDuck/

Nice image, BTW. I wish I had one like this of my grandfather and father.
--
Mike Russell - www.curvemeister.com


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