>I just bought a copy of Adobe Photoshop 3.0 on CD ROM (Windoze) and
>they shipped it without a serial number so I can't install it. Adobe
>tech support said that everyone who could give me a serial number
>was at a company picnic or something. While they were very nice,
>they were not at all helpful. And they won't be back till next Monday.
>So does anyone have a serial number to share? Since it's a CD-ROM
>any serial number will do because it's a mass-produced distribution.
>It probably has to be for Photoshop 3.0, CD-ROM version, for Windoze.
>Thanks in advance,
>Bill
OK, I guess you sound honest enough.
you can get the serial # if you do a Infoseek web search for;
serial numbers photoshop
but don't let it get around, i don't want all the pirates to get wind
of this idea.
>I just bought a copy of Adobe Photoshop 3.0 on CD ROM (Windoze) and
>they shipped it without a serial number so I can't install it.
No problem, it's on the front page of the manual. Oh, let me guess,
they forgot to ship the manual, too...
I just LOVE the groups you posted this to:
alt.2600.codez,alt.2600,alt.2600.crackz,alt.2600.programz,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop
Your message has been forwarded to Adobe
Have a nice day
~~
John Maguire
Fort Defiance Software
Kennebunkport, Maine
Before I posted that, I spoke to a Rachel at Adobe support. I also
spoke to her supervisor, named Jim. Jim's extention is X923 at
Adobe support (800-833-6687). I told him if he couldn't connect
me with someone who could remedy the omission, I would
simply post a request to the hackers rather than wait till Monday.
I got my answer in 15 minutes off the Net. Adobe is closed until
Monday, so I'd still be waiting if I relied on their support. BTW,
Rachel said "Oh, darn it! I hate it when they ship software without
serial numbers", so I guess this happens pretty frequently.
Note that I did not post to this group by accident....
On Sat, 24 Aug 1996 03:06:00 GMT, juan...@cybertours.com (John
Maguire) wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:58:28 GMT, bels...@entertech.com (William
>Elswick) wrote:
>
>>I just bought a copy of Adobe Photoshop 3.0 on CD ROM (Windoze) and
>>they shipped it without a serial number so I can't install it.
>
You're such a royal fuckwit.
We upgraded from v 2.5 to v3.0.5 in our lab and Adobe sent us a package
with a CDROM and diskettes, along with Adobe Gallery Effects. I checked
for the serial number and the sticker on the install pacakge only listed
the first few letters and numbers -- not the complete serial number.
I called Adobe to inquire and apparently their serial numbers were hidden
all over the manuals and in various other places that were not readily
obvious to me.
So, just quite POSSIBLY (despite the plethora of crack ngs.) this man is
telling the truth, as it happened to me. Little did I realize the previous
serial number worked.
Fuck head....everyone's a pirate...right?
pK
_____kevin c welch________________________________vote_
http://www.genesisproject.com: soon
Even if the original poster was quite innocent in his intentions, requesting
this type of information in newsgroups is inappropriate. Having had several
problems with serial numbers in the past it is my best recommendation that
you contact the vendor. If you have a legal copy of the software and can
evidence that I have yet to find a vendor that would not give the information
needed to make the product operate.
Perhaps if the original poster had asked for suggestions about how to deal
with this situation rather than blatantly making a criminal act in a public
place this whole string would have been better received. Even you, Mr.
Welch, called Adobe to find out what you needed, so why couldn't you give the
original poster that kind of advice? Additionally, the original poster sent
this to some rather questionable newsgroups, especially if he had just
purchased it from Adobe, and which would certainly raise more than a little
suspicion about his motives in making the original request. Are you sure you
want to align yourself with him?
Winston
haps you could try pww300r3000011-926, it works for me. Seems I might
have duplicated a message, sorry.
I know I'm going to sound like a cranky old killjoy, but this pisses me
off. I'm virtually certain that if someone wants to try Photoshop, they
could pick up a copy of Photoshop LE (the limited version) for maybe $50
from someone else on this group, because LE is given away with many
scanners and other products these days, so there are unwanted, spare,
legitimate copies floating around. Now, $50 is a SHAREWARE price. But this
transaction would be a perfectly legal and decent way to try the product.
Anyone who starts trading registration numbers is weakening the system
that has brought us, in my opinion, a truly fine piece of software. The
reason it is so fine is that a) smart people wrote it, and b) they had
the luxury to DO THE JOB RIGHT, because the company could afford to.
I own a copy of Photoshop 3.05 that I bought for $275 from someone else
on this group--again, perfectly legally. You see, unlike most software
companies, Adobe will send you TRANSFER PAPERS so that the new buyer
inherits upgrade and tech support privileges from the person selling the
software (who loses those privileges).
I think this is an exceptionally decent company, and we should treat them
decently in return. Without Adobe there wouldn't be PostScript and the
graphic arts field would probably be 10 years retarded, technically
speaking, stuck with PC Paintbrush and TrueType, or something equally
hideous. Hell, without Adobe, Apple itself might be out of business--it
was really the first LaserWriter, a PostScript device, that rescued the
Mac.
So let's not rip 'em off!
End of speech.
Kevin was right, what a bunch of fuckwits. Keep your moral judgements to
yourself. Those newsgroups exist for that type of request. As unethical as it
may be, it's fact. I'm sure that if the original poster does indeed own a
legitimate copy of the software there is no problem with him running an
alternate serial number until he can receive his own from Adobe.
> Having had several
>problems with serial numbers in the past it is my best recommendation that
>you contact the vendor. If you have a legal copy of the software and can
>evidence that I have yet to find a vendor that would not give the information
>needed to make the product operate.
And it's my recommendation that you actually read portions of the thread you're
submitting a followup to other than the one single message. If you had read the
original article you would have noticed that the original poster did indeed
contact Adobe, but the appropriate persons were not in. And if you had kept
reading you would have seen mentioned specific names and extensions of the
people he dealt with.
>Perhaps if the original poster had asked for suggestions about how to deal
>with this situation rather than blatantly making a criminal act in a public
>place this whole string would have been better received.
What criminal act was that? Oh, so now you've passed from moral judge to judge
of criminal law. Wow, that's exciting. I'm sure the original poster is now
quite happily working with Photoshop doing whatever it was he needed to do this
weekend - and could not wait until Monday for (again, you didn't read the
original posts, so it's completely unfair to make stupid assumptions)
>Even you, Mr.
>Welch, called Adobe to find out what you needed, so why couldn't you give the
>original poster that kind of advice?
Why would he tell the original poster to do something which had already been
done? Then he would have just come off looking like an idiot who didn't
actually read the original article (remind you of anyone?)
> Additionally, the original poster sent
>this to some rather questionable newsgroups, especially if he had just
>purchased it from Adobe, and which would certainly raise more than a little
>suspicion about his motives in making the original request.
He simply posted to where he thought the answer would come from. And by his
assertion, it arrived within 15 minutes. Should he have posted to
rec.food.cooking perhaps to avoid flaming up a storm from Photoshop Gods? I
don't think he would have been properly serviced if he had.
>Are you sure you want to align yourself with him?
I'm not speaking for Kevin, but I'm sure neither of us want to align ourselves
with "him" per se, but I certainly wish to put myself out of alignment with
arrogant farts such as yourself.
Good day.
Bruno
hybrid Designs
>Your message has been forwarded to Adobe
Your message has been forwarded to the trash. If he had indeed pirated the
software, wouldn't it be a proper assumption that he would already have a serial
number? If he had indeed pirated the software, don't you think he would have
omitted the Photoshop newsgroup from his posting to avoid this kind of
attention?
What is Abode going to do now? They'll just smile and say "oh, it's a post from
Bill, the guy we just contacted about the defect in his Photoshop bundle"
Bruno
I'll make sure I don't do business with folks like the ones who
trashed the poor guy who did not have a serial #.
cwen
#PWW300R3000011-926
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in the Silicon Valley just east of Swindon.
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the accident.
Adobe bought out Aldus Photostyler, arguably a superior product to Photoshop. But did
they subsequently incorporate any of Photostyler's advances into Photoshop 3? Not
really. Opening and printing files is still far, far better with Photostyler
(previews, etc.). And even the interesting Adobe magazine is actually Aldus
magazine. Photoshop 3.0.5 could be _far_ better than it is now, for such a
"professional" product. In this regard, anybody know when the next revision or version
is due?
>
>I own a copy of Photoshop 3.05 that I bought for $275 from someone else
>on this group--again, perfectly legally.
>I think this is an exceptionally decent company, and we should treat them
>decently in return.
>
>So let's not rip 'em off!
>
>End of speech.
If you are so full of support why didnt you go out and buy a new copy to help
Adobe out with a bit of extra cash? Instead of being a cheapo.
Do we presume that the person you bought your copy from is no longer using
PhotoShop?
> If you are so full of support why didnt you go out and buy a new copy to help
> Adobe out with a bit of extra cash? Instead of being a cheapo.
Adobe prices their products in accordance with supply and demand, in a
market economy. They aren't a charitable institution, they're a business.
And I'm a consumer. This means that I can and *should* shop around for the
best legal bargain. If you're really worried about Adobe's balance sheet
(which somehow seems unlikely to me), bear in mind that in the future I
will be paying them for upgrades.
> Do we presume that the person you bought your copy from is no longer using
> PhotoShop?
You can presume anything you like, but the reason he sold the copy to me
was that he just received an EXTRA copy (different serial number) when he
bought a very high-end transparency scanner.
>speaking, stuck with PC Paintbrush and TrueType, or something equally
What in the hell is wrong with TrueType?? I personally find true type
fonts to be better. Hell, a lot of printers I see don't even support
Postscript anymore.
But I have nothing against Adobe. Their products are all excellent.
Chubber
Charles Platt <c...@panix.com> wrote in article <4vopm2$e...@panix.com>...
> Bugbear (ja...@mts.net) wrote:
> > Tachyon wrote:
>
> I own a copy of Photoshop 3.05 that I bought for $275 from someone else
> on this group--again, perfectly legally. You see, unlike most software
> companies, Adobe will send you TRANSFER PAPERS so that the new buyer
> inherits upgrade and tech support privileges from the person selling the
> software (who loses those privileges).
>
If this is so ,does anyone have a copy of photoshop 3.05 they would like
to sell?
kevin c welch <kwe...@vni.net> wrote in article
<4vnbr3$k...@netnews.upenn.edu>...
> So, just quite POSSIBLY (despite the plethora of crack ngs.) this man is
> telling the truth, as it happened to me. Little did I realize the
previous
> serial number worked.
Same here! Dropped a bit of change for a "deluxe" edition of Illus.6.0
(w/lots-o-goodies in it). And it had all the s/n's except for Illustrator!
Like Kevin the s/n from 5.5 worked on mine, and thank god!
And here I thought I had an isolated case!
</chaz>
--
Chaz Clover
Art Director, CompuNerd, Inc.
ch...@databahn.net
http://www.databahn.net
If you are going to get into the legality of things maybe you better
understand the law in the United States. IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO HAVE
INFORMATION. What you do with that information might be considered
illegal. Just because someone has a serial number to a piece of
software constitutes nothing illegal unless there is intent to commit a
crime. If people like you were in power just having information would be
illegal. I am not saying what this person did was morally right/wrong
or even that he went about it in the right/wrong way but please make the
distinction between having information and using information
illegallly.
Reply to Robert: rcl...@iapc.net
If the original poster was legitimate, *he* certainly was not committing a
crime. He's entitled to use his software.
Whether *giving* him a serial number (or worse, *posting* it on UseNet, is
illegal, is for the courts to decide. But it's not something I would have
done.
>> Additionally, the original poster sent
>> this to some rather questionable newsgroups,
I lost some idiotic tiny Windoze file a few years back. The file was
absolutely useless to anyone who didn't have a basically complete copy of
Windoze. I cannot imagine that MicroSoft would have objected to e-mailing
me that file, but I couldn't get their attention. So, knowing that a lot
of folks have the same concerns you have expressed, *I* posted to some
"questionable newsgroups". I got a few posts like yours, but I got the
file (by e-mail - I gave out my legitimate address). That *could* be
considered a copyright violation; a copy was made; but it was simply
replacing a file I legitimately owned and couldn't use without a lot of
other software.
But don't call a request for a serial number a "criminal act" unless you
can cite either common law cases or a statute.
kwe...@vni.net (kevin c welch) wrote:
>[ .. From juan...@cybertours.com (John Maguire) .. ]
>]On Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:58:28 GMT, bels...@entertech.com (William
>]Elswick) wrote:
>]
>]>I just bought a copy of Adobe Photoshop 3.0 on CD ROM (Windoze) and
>]>they shipped it without a serial number so I can't install it.
>]
>]No problem, it's on the front page of the manual. Oh, let me guess,
>]they forgot to ship the manual, too...
>]
>]I just LOVE the groups you posted this to:
>]alt.2600.codez,alt.2600,alt.2600.crackz,alt.2600.programz,comp.graphics.apps.ph
>]otoshop
>]
>]Your message has been forwarded to Adobe
>You're such a royal fuckwit.
>We upgraded from v 2.5 to v3.0.5 in our lab and Adobe sent us a package
>with a CDROM and diskettes, along with Adobe Gallery Effects. I checked
>for the serial number and the sticker on the install pacakge only listed
>the first few letters and numbers -- not the complete serial number.
>I called Adobe to inquire and apparently their serial numbers were hidden
>all over the manuals and in various other places that were not readily
>obvious to me.
>So, just quite POSSIBLY (despite the plethora of crack ngs.) this man is
>telling the truth, as it happened to me. Little did I realize the previous
>serial number worked.
>Fuck head....everyone's a pirate...right?
What judgemental fucks! You're the pricks who are helping develove
these United States of America by your whining. Always wanting the
next guy to be restrained as much as you even though his head is not
compacted into his ass.
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE GUY GOT HIS PHOTOSHOP???
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVEN READ YOUR F*#&KING LICENSING AGREEMENT?? ITS
A CONTRACT THAT YOU ARE BOUND BY! DOES THE CONTRACT MAKE SHARING YOUR
SERIAL NUMBER WITH SOMEONE SOMETHING OF THE ORDER OF A BREECH? PERHAPS
IT DOES. PERHAPS NOT.
If the guy is pirating, then its between him and Adobe. Its probably a
CD-ROM anyhow. *stupid-people*
I hear this: "Waah, I paid $600 for mine, he should too...WAAAH."
*someone, get a pacifier*
bels...@entertech.com (William Elswick) wrote:
>I just bought a copy of Adobe Photoshop 3.0 on CD ROM (Windoze) and
I guess this means you haven't read yours either. But absence of factual
knowledge will never stop a Usenet veteran from ranting about the
ignorance of others.
Permission granted!
Joe Adobe.
You have a warped sense of gratitude...