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fugitive

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Aug 4, 2004, 4:00:53 AM8/4/04
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I feel redeemed, the new proggie has an oil brush that works like one,
and seems to pick up passing colors, altho, I don't know yet if it can
be set to use 2 colors, one of my pet things. One problem, I have,
besides the lockup I already had. The built in texture in the special
chalks, etc, I hope it can be turned off or adjusted, as, the way it
is, is cool, until one realizes, it's the same on all the tools, and
doesn't seem to change angle or size, we'll see. It's easy to use, as
it's a clone of 8. Thanks for the new brushes, folks at Jasc.

"Only the Mediocre will always meet expectations"

Trev

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Aug 4, 2004, 5:07:11 AM8/4/04
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"fugitive" <greg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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There not my cup of tea. But I Did wonderd what you would make of them
Thanks Greg


Jackie Laderoute

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Aug 4, 2004, 7:35:44 AM8/4/04
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 08:00:53 GMT, fugitive <greg...@earthlink.net>
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For your first question, check out the Mixer palette - using it will
allow you to load your brush with multiple colours.

For the texture, it - as in "real life" is set by the layer (as if it
were a paper texture). To get a different texture, add a transparent
Art Media layer with another texture - this isn't like real life, but
it should do what you want.

Jackie

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Sonja

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Aug 4, 2004, 10:06:53 AM8/4/04
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No on the two colors, you can "mix" them..View Palettes Mixer... do it that
way.

Control the textures in the NEW IMAGE dialog box or the third tab (i think
lol) on that layers properties dialog. There, is where the textures are.


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Nightingail

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Aug 4, 2004, 10:58:48 AM8/4/04
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Greg, I'm not saying this to be mean. You really would be doing
yourself a favor if you at least looked at the Help files before
worrying about whether something works the way you want it to, or
not. I also wondered about the texturing in Art Media. I clicked
Help topics, then saw Art Media Tools right away in the Table of
contents. Clicked on that and sure enough right there on the
first page was the word "Texture" in bold print. I didn't even
have to read through the whole section, just scanned it for what
I was looking for and found the answer. Took less than a minute.

Gail

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JP Kabala

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Aug 4, 2004, 12:01:32 PM8/4/04
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It was an idea whose time had come.

Art Media is very different than what you are used to. It is not always
intuitive. Since there are only a couple dozen of us lunatics who
have really played with this and understand it, I know you're going to be
frustrated to hear me say this ----but you HAVE to read the documentation
and help files. Trying to figure this out on your own by experimentation
is simply unnecessary masochism.

A few tips:

Changing textures is easy-- it's done on the new layer or layer properties
dialog box-- However for dry media (pencil, pastel, chalk) to look right
you have to have some kind of texture. Looks like crap with texture "none"
Not a mistake, as designed. If you scribble with a real world crayon on
glass you
get a very different result than scribbling on paper. You can also create
your
own textures and use several different textures on the same layer.

Art media tools work VERY differently with a tablet versus a mouse.
Even if you use a tablet for most things, try some things with a mouse--
you may find that there are times when you really appreciate the
differences.

When you have Art Media tools active, take a look at the right-click menus.
There are some nifty tools buried in there that you might not see otherwise.

You can set the brush to pick up an unlimited number of colors-- why stop at
2?
This is done in the Mixer Palette and works a lot like a real-world paint
palette. You can also save palette pages for future use. See Help.

Art Media is very memory and processor intensive. Not as bad as
something like Poser, but often a bit of a Hungry Hippo. Slower, older
systems are going to choke. Period. The minimum recommended configuration
for PSP--which is fine for most tasks-- doesn't come close to being
beefy enough for large canvasses in Art Media.

If you are having memory issues, here are three things that may help.
Turn Autosave and the Overview Palette off. Both do a lot of work in the
background and eat memory like peanuts. The overview palette forces a redraw
after every stroke.

Don't have a lot of unnecessary files or palettes open on the workspace.
Work clean and lean. Get in the habit of closing things you don't need now.

Save often. Purge the clipboard and the Undo if you notice that your
computer is starting to bog because you are running out of memory.

Expect large file sizes in detailed Art Media work. I mean REALLY large
files. The poppy image in the Jasc marketing materials is one of mine.
A relatively small image, designed to print at about 4" x 5." The layered
file
was well over 25 MB when complete.


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fugitive

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Aug 4, 2004, 12:42:21 PM8/4/04
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 11:35:44 GMT, Jackie Laderoute
<jflad...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 08:00:53 GMT, fugitive <greg...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>I feel redeemed, the new proggie has an oil brush that works like one,
>>and seems to pick up passing colors, altho, I don't know yet if it can
>>be set to use 2 colors, one of my pet things. One problem, I have,
>>besides the lockup I already had. The built in texture in the special
>>chalks, etc, I hope it can be turned off or adjusted, as, the way it
>>is, is cool, until one realizes, it's the same on all the tools, and
>>doesn't seem to change angle or size, we'll see. It's easy to use, as
>>it's a clone of 8. Thanks for the new brushes, folks at Jasc.
>
>For your first question, check out the Mixer palette - using it will
>allow you to load your brush with multiple colours.
>
>For the texture, it - as in "real life" is set by the layer (as if it
>were a paper texture). To get a different texture, add a transparent
>Art Media layer with another texture - this isn't like real life, but
>it should do what you want.
>
>Jackie


Oohhhhh, I was afriad it wasn't changeable, I'll try to find it now,
as soon as I wake up;-)

fugitive

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Aug 4, 2004, 12:45:40 PM8/4/04
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:58:48 -0400, "Nightingail" <ga...@nospam.com>
wrote:

>Greg, I'm not saying this to be mean. You really would be doing
>yourself a favor if you at least looked at the Help files before
>worrying about whether something works the way you want it to, or
>not. I also wondered about the texturing in Art Media. I clicked
>Help topics, then saw Art Media Tools right away in the Table of
>contents. Clicked on that and sure enough right there on the
>first page was the word "Texture" in bold print. I didn't even
>have to read through the whole section, just scanned it for what
>I was looking for and found the answer. Took less than a minute.
>
>Gail


I tried to look it up last nite, under the logical sequence of paint
brush, texture, nothing, I did read, and I love the mixer too, kinda
like Corels. I don't like, the new media brushes being locked it
stone, as to mods, tho. Thanks

fugitive

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Aug 4, 2004, 1:05:26 PM8/4/04
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Good stuff, but i still cannot find the changing of brush textures, in
the new media brushes, new media is a long name.

JP Kabala

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Aug 4, 2004, 2:06:59 PM8/4/04
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Art Media
And the textures are on the layer, not the brush


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fugitive

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Aug 4, 2004, 2:38:49 PM8/4/04
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:06:59 GMT, "JP Kabala" <j...@jpkabala.com> wrote:

>Art Media
>And the textures are on the layer, not the brush

Found them, thanks, see new comments please.

Sonja

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Aug 4, 2004, 3:19:58 PM8/4/04
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> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:06:53 -0500, "Sonja" <bon...@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
> >No on the two colors, you can "mix" them..View Palettes Mixer... do it
that
> >way.
> >
> >Control the textures in the NEW IMAGE dialog box or the third tab (i
think
> >lol) on that layers properties dialog. There, is where the textures are.
>
> Ummm Sonja You can have 2, 3, 4 or how many colors you can get the
> brush to pick up. Takes some fiddling depending on how you've put the
> paint down on the mixer, but it's possible.
>
>
Isn' t that what I said? LOL Mixer... maybe i misunderstood the two
colors Q, I took to mean like a check box or somehing along those lines.


fugitive

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Aug 4, 2004, 5:27:33 PM8/4/04
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 11:06:21 -0500, Sara <sa...@cedar-rapids.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:06:53 -0500, "Sonja" <bon...@charter.net>
>wrote:
>

>>No on the two colors, you can "mix" them..View Palettes Mixer... do it that
>>way.
>>
>>Control the textures in the NEW IMAGE dialog box or the third tab (i think
>>lol) on that layers properties dialog. There, is where the textures are.
>

>Ummm Sonja You can have 2, 3, 4 or how many colors you can get the
>brush to pick up. Takes some fiddling depending on how you've put the
>paint down on the mixer, but it's possible.
>


I'm a bit slow, how do I pick them up. I guess, you put down several
colors next to each other in dabs, and then somehow use the multi
colors to paint, but I am missing something here. Thanks.

JP Kabala

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Aug 4, 2004, 6:14:34 PM8/4/04
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Help> Mixer Palette

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fugitive

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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:54:47 -0500, Sara <sa...@cedar-rapids.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:27:33 GMT, fugitive <greg...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:


>
>
>>I'm a bit slow, how do I pick them up. I guess, you put down several
>>colors next to each other in dabs, and then somehow use the multi
>>colors to paint, but I am missing something here. Thanks.
>

>Start out with two colors and put them down next to each other on the
>mixer. Select the picker and place it right in the middle between
>those two colors. If you have 3 colors next to each other place the
>picker in the middle of the middle color so the picker outline touches
>all 3 colors.
>

After getting the two to work, I figure that, you just have to make
small swatches, thanks, I'm have a blast with this proggie.

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