How to combine multiple pictures to one TIFF?
Peter Schöttler
PSP 8
Is it possible in PSP to combine multiple pictures to one TIFF file?
Thanks,
Peter
Trev
"Peter Schöttler" <pscho...@sbh-worldwide.com> wrote in message
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Start with a blank big enough to hold them side by side or whatever. Open
the images and copy, paste, into the blank. Use the mover and or deform tool
to arrange to taste and save as a tiff .
Peter Schöttler
> "Peter Schöttler" <pscho...@sbh-worldwide.com> wrote in message
> news:2ojk5kF...@uni-berlin.de...
>
> Open the images and copy, paste, into the blank. Use the mover and or
> deform tool to arrange to taste and save as a tiff .
I think you misunderstood what I want, respectively my question isn't clear
enough.
I want to create a TIFF file with multiple pages. TIFF is used for faxes
received by a computer so that multiple pages can be combined in one file.
So I want to know if PSP can create this TIFF file out of a file with
multiple layers.
Kris Zaklika
It can't.
Mike Williams
>Hi NG.
>
>PSP 8
>
>Is it possible in PSP to combine multiple pictures to one TIFF file?
If you're talking about multipage TIFFs, then my understanding is that
there's no support for them at all in PSP8.
--
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure
Peter Schöttler
added in the latest version(s).
Jean-Luc ERNST
PSP8, Paint Shop Pro 9, PhotoShop,... are "one page" applications. They
don't think you will draw a two sides menu, for example... Or course, they
can open multiple images in the same time but cannot create multipage files.
Corel is a "multipage" application.
Another is Paper Port for scanning : you may create a multipage TIFF, DOC or
PDF file.
Because Paint Shop Pro has an interesting graphic oriented side, I suggest
that someone at Jasc will study the possibility to work on multiple pages in
future versions...
Cordialement,
Jean-Luc
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Matti Vuori
news:b856a$41272a99$52ae8d21$35...@news.zonnet.nl:
Corel is actually a company.
> Because Paint Shop Pro has an interesting graphic oriented side, I
> suggest that someone at Jasc will study the possibility to work on
> multiple pages in future versions...
PSP is in its core an image editor. To my knowledge there has never been
one available with multiple page support - and with good reason: images
are inherently one page only and no sensible image file format supports
mulptiple pages.
--
Matti Vuori, <http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/mvuori/index-e.htm>
Dave Symes
Matti Vuori <mvu...@koti.soon.fi> wrote:
> PSP is in its core an image editor. To my knowledge there has never been
> one available with multiple page support - and with good reason: images
> are inherently one page only and no sensible image file format supports
> mulptiple pages.
What about Fax TIFFs?
Dave S
--
Xalinai
Fax tiffs are actually not image files but document files and could be
seen as an abuse of the TIFF format that allows for multiple pixel maps
in one file.
Michael
Uni
Even Photoshop supports multiple page TIFFs.
:-)
Uni
>
> Dave S
>
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Toby Thain
> Dave Symes wrote:
> > In article <Xns954C9C32912D8...@193.229.0.31>,
> > Matti Vuori <mvu...@koti.soon.fi> wrote:
> >
> >>PSP is in its core an image editor. To my knowledge there has never been
> >>one available with multiple page support - and with good reason: images
> >>are inherently one page only and no sensible image file format supports
> >>mulptiple pages.
> >
> >
> > What about Fax TIFFs?
>
> Even Photoshop supports multiple page TIFFs.
No version that I've seen does. Have you any evidence of this? (Of
course, many other programs do indeed support multipage TIFFs, which
can actually be quite useful.)
--Toby
>
> :-)
>
> Uni
>
>
> >
> > Dave S
> >
Xalinai
uni doesn't know.
The support for multipage FAX tiffs is for opening, not for writing.
The current "standard" for distribution of multipage documents with
lots of graphics is PDF. But this is a document format, not a graphics
format.
Michael
Uni
> Toby Thain wrote:
>
>
>>Uni <no.e...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:<4127F03E...@no.email.invalid>...
>>
>>>Dave Symes wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <Xns954C9C32912D8...@193.229.0.31>,
>>>> Matti Vuori <mvu...@koti.soon.fi> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>PSP is in its core an image editor. To my knowledge there has
>>>>>never been one available with multiple page support - and with
>>>>>good reason: images are inherently one page only and no
>>>>>sensible image file format supports mulptiple pages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What about Fax TIFFs?
>>>
>>>Even Photoshop supports multiple page TIFFs.
>>
>>No version that I've seen does. Have you any evidence of this? (Of
>>course, many other programs do indeed support multipage TIFFs, which
>>can actually be quite useful.)
>
>
> uni doesn't know.
Even GIMP does.....
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/001651.html
:-)
Uni
>
> The support for multipage FAX tiffs is for opening, not for writing.
>
> The current "standard" for distribution of multipage documents with
> lots of graphics is PDF. But this is a document format, not a graphics
> format.
>
> Michael
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Robert
"Xalinai" <xali...@xalinai.de> wrote in message
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For what it's worth, Microsoft Office includes a tool called Document
Imaging which supports multipage tiffs for FAX and other uses. BTW, just
ignore the troll, Uni (and his various aliases).
Robert
Toby Thain
>
> > Uni <no.e...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:<4127F03E...@no.email.invalid>...
> > > Dave Symes wrote:
> > > > What about Fax TIFFs?
> > >
> > > Even Photoshop supports multiple page TIFFs.
> >
> > No version that I've seen does. Have you any evidence of this? (Of
> > course, many other programs do indeed support multipage TIFFs, which
> > can actually be quite useful.)
>
> uni doesn't know.
>
> The support for multipage FAX tiffs is for opening, not for writing.
Photoshop CS doesn't do anything with multipage TIFFs for me - it just
shows page 1, doesn't let me pick a page. Lucky there are many good
TIFF viewers out there, OS X and Windoze both come with them
pre-installed.
--Toby
Jean-Luc ERNST
The proprietary Corel Draw format (.cdr) is a multipage format. You may
have one or more image(s) on one page, with or without text, raster or
vector and have several pages.
A PSP image may have one or more image(s) (in a single "image"), with or
without text, raster or vector.
On screen both (Corel Draw and PSP) could be absolutely identical.
The pspimage format could have multipage format capacity. That is what I
suggest to the Jasc's people...
It is easier to print from Corel Draw, Word, etc. because they handle
multipages. PSP let us to print many pages (with different images) only
through the Browser. It is a good step in the right direction. It could be
more advanced and permit us to create "multipages" too... inside its
proprietary format...
The TIFF format is particular and accepts multipages in one file. I don't
think it can handle color images.
Cordialement,
Jean-Luc Ernst
"Matti Vuori" <mvu...@koti.soon.fi> a écrit dans le message de news:
Xns954C9C32912D8...@193.229.0.31...
Xalinai
> I mean COREL DRAW.
>
> The proprietary Corel Draw format (.cdr) is a multipage format. You
> may have one or more image(s) on one page, with or without text,
> raster or vector and have several pages.
> A PSP image may have one or more image(s) (in a single "image"), with
> or without text, raster or vector.
> On screen both (Corel Draw and PSP) could be absolutely identical.
> The pspimage format could have multipage format capacity. That is
> what I suggest to the Jasc's people...
Corel Draw is essentially a vector and page oriented drawing and layout
program. PSP is a basically raster oriented paint and image
manipulation program.
The PSPimage format is an image format and not a document format.
If you want to store documents use a document format - there are lots
of programs around that make documents from images.
> It is easier to print from Corel Draw, Word, etc. because they handle
> multipages. PSP let us to print many pages (with different images)
> only through the Browser. It is a good step in the right direction.
> It could be more advanced and permit us to create "multipages" too...
> inside its proprietary format...
Corel Draw is a page oriented program, not a image oriented program.
> The TIFF format is particular and accepts multipages in one file. I
> don't think it can handle color images.
Multipage TIFF was invented for FAX documents as there was no other
"standard" format available.
Michael
Uni
Uni
> "Xalinai" <xali...@xalinai.de> wrote in message news:<cgcau1$ijo$06$1...@news.t-online.com>...
>
>>Toby Thain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Uni <no.e...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:<4127F03E...@no.email.invalid>...
>>>
>>>>Dave Symes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>...
>>>>>What about Fax TIFFs?
>>>>
>>>>Even Photoshop supports multiple page TIFFs.
>>>
>>>No version that I've seen does. Have you any evidence of this? (Of
>>>course, many other programs do indeed support multipage TIFFs, which
>>>can actually be quite useful.)
>>
>>uni doesn't know.
>>
>>The support for multipage FAX tiffs is for opening, not for writing.
>
>
> Photoshop CS doesn't do anything with multipage TIFFs for me - it just
> shows page 1, doesn't let me pick a page. Lucky there are many good
> TIFF viewers out there, OS X and Windoze both come with them
> pre-installed.
Layered TIFFs in Photoshop 7:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=13860
"2. In the same preferences, set the "Ask Before Saving Layered TIFF
files" to on, and maybe make use of the layer compression (used when
saving a layered TIFF file)."
You guys are too easy.
:-)
I know more about Photoshop than Michael and I don't even use it, like
he does!
:-)
Uni
Toby Thain
> Toby Thain wrote:
> > "Xalinai" <xali...@xalinai.de> wrote in message news:<cgcau1$ijo$06$1...@news.t-online.com>...
> >
> >>Toby Thain wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Uni <no.e...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
> >>>news:<4127F03E...@no.email.invalid>...
> >>>
> >>>>Dave Symes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>...
> >>>>>What about Fax TIFFs?
> >>>>
> >>>>Even Photoshop supports multiple page TIFFs.
> >>>
> >>>No version that I've seen does. Have you any evidence of this? (Of
> >>>course, many other programs do indeed support multipage TIFFs, which
> >>>can actually be quite useful.)
> >>
> >>uni doesn't know.
> >>
> >>The support for multipage FAX tiffs is for opening, not for writing.
> >
> >
> > Photoshop CS doesn't do anything with multipage TIFFs for me - it just
> > shows page 1, doesn't let me pick a page. Lucky there are many good
> > TIFF viewers out there, OS X and Windoze both come with them
> > pre-installed.
>
> Layered TIFFs in Photoshop 7:
>
> http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=13860
> "2. In the same preferences, set the "Ask Before Saving Layered TIFF
> files" to on, and maybe make use of the layer compression (used when
> saving a layered TIFF file)."
>
> You guys are too easy.
A multipage TIFF is nothing like a layered TIFF. They are two
completely different things. -plonk-
--Toby
Toby Thain
> ...
>
> The TIFF format is particular and accepts multipages in one file. I don't
> think it can handle color images.
Multiple images of any sub-format can be contained in a single TIFF
file; the facility is fully general and not restricted to any
particular bit depth or compression method. The TIFF specification is
a useful point of reference if in doubt:
http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/pdfs/tn/TIFF6.pdf
--Toby
...snip...
Uni
Right!
:-)
> -plonk-
Thanks.
Uni
>
> --Toby
>
>
>>:-)
>>
>>I know more about Photoshop than Michael and I don't even use it, like
>>he does!
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>Uni
>>
>>
>>>--Toby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The current "standard" for distribution of multipage documents with
>>>>lots of graphics is PDF. But this is a document format, not a graphics
>>>>format.
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>
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Jean-Luc ERNST
Cordialement,
Jean-Luc
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Jean-Luc ERNST
My target was not to destroy one or the other application. I'm using the
three programs in my alltheday life : Corel Draw, PhotoShop and PSP.
What you say ( "Corel Draw is essentially a vector and page oriented drawing
and layout program. PSP is a basically raster oriented paint and image
manipulation program. The PSPimage format is an image format and not a
document format.") is true ACTUALLY.
PSP is not only a raster app but has vector capacities and since a few
versions is developing his page/document printing capacity (print layout for
example). What I said in my mail is a suggestion for continuing in that
direction and add a multipage ability. Technically, I don't know if it
could be inserted in the pspimage format or in another "proprietary"
format...
Cordialement,
Jean-Luc
"Xalinai" <xali...@xalinai.de> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>
> If you want to store documents use a document format - there are lots
> of programs around that make documents from images.
>
> Michael
Xalinai
> Yes, I understand what you explain...
> My target was not to destroy one or the other application. I'm using
> the three programs in my alltheday life : Corel Draw, PhotoShop and
> PSP.
>
> What you say ( "Corel Draw is essentially a vector and page oriented
> drawing and layout program. PSP is a basically raster oriented paint
> and image manipulation program. The PSPimage format is an image
> format and not a document format.") is true ACTUALLY.
>
> PSP is not only a raster app but has vector capacities and since a few
> versions is developing his page/document printing capacity (print
> layout for example). What I said in my mail is a suggestion for
> continuing in that direction and add a multipage ability.
> Technically, I don't know if it could be inserted in the pspimage
> format or in another "proprietary" format...
I think this would be another step in a wrong direction.
There are enough document oriented applications available, coming from
various origins as text processors, DTP page layout editors and even
vector graphic programs.
Extending the functionality of PSP in that direction would both create
a weak page layout program and lots of new functions that need to be
maintained without providing enough new market share to finance the
manpower to do so.
I see better chances in improving the integration of PSP with other
Windows applications and providing best performance in its primary
field of application.
Michael
CoMa
I know that you can make a multi-page TIFF
in IrfanView and XnView
IrfanView
http://www.irfanview.com/
v3.92 is the latest version
XnView
http://www.xnview.com/
v1.70.4 is the latest version
/CoMa
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Jean-Luc ERNST
You and me are not accorded about what would be better to develop in PSP.
But you are right when you write about the Jasc's manpower abitilies...
So, let us Jasc making the choice...
Cordialement,
Jean-Luc
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>
> I think this would be another step in a wrong direction.
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