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Fugitive

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Jul 21, 2004, 3:44:20 AM7/21/04
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I'm sure their coming from Painter. It could have something to do with
the saving "Painter saves NCSA MAP, CERN MAP" as it uses these maps,
and you have to use one or the other, plus the jpg.

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JP Kabala

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Jul 21, 2004, 4:02:29 AM7/21/04
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Why are you using Painter to create image maps for web use?
TTBOMK, you don't write HTML or do any web design,
or even have your own site, do you?

Could you have accidentally turned that feature on without knowing it?
I wonder if the dots are like those annoying slice numbers that you can
accidentally turn on in Adobe products

Here's data on NCSA/CERN maps and Painter

http://www.vis.ethz.ch/~mnaef/windowatch/painter/painter_5.html


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Fugitive

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Jul 21, 2004, 2:34:43 PM7/21/04
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:02:29 GMT, "JP Kabala" <j...@jpkabala.com> wrote:

>Why are you using Painter to create image maps for web use?
>TTBOMK, you don't write HTML or do any web design,
>or even have your own site, do you?
>
>Could you have accidentally turned that feature on without knowing it?
>I wonder if the dots are like those annoying slice numbers that you can
>accidentally turn on in Adobe products
>
>Here's data on NCSA/CERN maps and Painter
>
>http://www.vis.ethz.ch/~mnaef/windowatch/painter/painter_5.html

I didn't want, or plan this, it's the way, this old Painter saves
jpg's, with one of these stupid, maps, either 1 or 2, no way out. Even
tho, this vs. of Painter is primitive, it has brushes, that PSP can't
touch.

Fugitive

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Jul 21, 2004, 2:40:23 PM7/21/04
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:02:29 GMT, "JP Kabala" <j...@jpkabala.com> wrote:

>http://www.vis.ethz.ch/~mnaef/windowatch/painter/painter_5.html


this is a nice page, one I hadn't seen, thanks.

JP Kabala

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Jul 22, 2004, 2:26:10 PM7/22/04
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> I didn't want, or plan this, it's the way, this old Painter saves
> jpg's, with one of these stupid, maps, either 1 or 2, no way out. Even
> tho, this vs. of Painter is primitive, it has brushes, that PSP can't
> touch.

Read that page again--- I don't think you DO have to have the maps...
Maps, according to that page at least, only apply to IMAGE MAPS
used for web work. It might be an optional setting someplace odd...
I don't have that version of Painter so I can't give you specifics as
to where to look

Yes, Painter has nice brushes. It is an excellent focused tool for painting.
PSP is a different kettle of fish entirely. Comparing the two is
like saying "this boat is faster than that car"-- well, that could be true
under some circumstances, but there are places you can't go in a car that
the boat will take you--- and vice versa.

Did you ever read that Painter, Photoshop and Illustrator book I
recommended?

http://snipurl.com/7y6n

You can substitute PSP for much of the Photoshop and Illustrator work.


Fugitive

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Jul 22, 2004, 4:18:56 PM7/22/04
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:26:10 GMT, "JP Kabala" <j...@jpkabala.com> wrote:

>Yes, Painter has nice brushes. It is an excellent focused tool for painting.
>PSP is a different kettle of fish entirely. Comparing the two is
>like saying "this boat is faster than that car"-- well, that could be true
>under some circumstances, but there are places you can't go in a car that
>the boat will take you--- and vice versa.
>
>Did you ever read that Painter, Photoshop and Illustrator book I
>recommended?
>
>http://snipurl.com/7y6n
>
>You can substitute PSP for much of the Photoshop and Illustrator work.
>


Bottom line, as I don't have time, or resources, for a lot of talk or
reading. Paint Shop Pro, the first word, is Paint. I'm a literalist,
Painter, Paint Shop, see what I mean? PS doesn't say it's for
painting. Heres my call. The Jasc Engineers, could make one just for
painters, without animate, glass balls, etc, with a powerful paint
engine, and a much better interface, than Painters has, Corel has
umpteen products, as does Adobe, Jasc could do something for Artists,
without any manipulation tools, just a nice big, paint box, full of
nice brushes.
PS, your right on the choices, I didn't have to pick it, and won't
anymore. as I got some more dots on an image. Luckily, I save so many,
there's no danger. Thanks.

JP Kabala

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Jul 23, 2004, 12:26:18 PM7/23/04
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> Bottom line, as I don't have time, or resources, for a lot of talk or
> reading.

Now see, arrogant and ignorant stuff like this is what makes trying to help
you
**such** a pleasure and a joy, Greg. :-/

You "have time" to repost insulting, libelous, anti-Semitic, homophobic,
sexist,
ethnic and racial slurs and lame and hurtful "jokes," images in blatant
violation
of copyright, and box car loads of bathroom and locker room humor but
no time to read about a tool you supposedly want to learn to use? OK, fine.
That explains a **lot** about your priorities. I won't bother to take your
questions seriously in the future. And I sure as heck won't attempt to
spoon-feed you answers you are too dense or just too lazy to actually use
any more.
My youngest son is old enough to vote. I stopped spoon-feeding little boys
a couple of decades ago.

> PS, your right on the choices, I didn't have to pick it, and won't
> anymore. as I got some more dots on an image. Luckily, I save so many,
> there's no danger. Thanks.

I was right not because I am brilliant, but because I RTM and did a 10
second Google search. (only necessary because you use a different
version than I do) A problem-solving approach you might consider
in the future. You do have a manual, right? It came with your software
license. No additional outlay of resources required. Reading it would
make your use of the software more pleasant and productive.

Fugitive

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Jul 23, 2004, 1:26:34 PM7/23/04
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 16:26:18 GMT, "JP Kabala" <j...@jpkabala.com> wrote:

>> Bottom line, as I don't have time, or resources, for a lot of talk or
>> reading.
>
>Now see, arrogant and ignorant stuff like this is what makes trying to help
>you
>**such** a pleasure and a joy, Greg. :-/

This is just the literal truth, because of eyes and headaches, I quit
reading novels in '99, and it is very difficult to read anyting long,
like tuts, drive me nuts, that's why, I just invent in stead, sorly
just the facts.

madis...@nospam.bellsouth.net

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Jul 23, 2004, 10:48:13 PM7/23/04
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"JP Kabala" <j...@jpkabala.com> wrote in message
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JP Kabala is my hero.:-) And not just for her fabulous artwork. Thanks, JP,
for saying what I bet most of us were thinking.

Wendy


Fugitive

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Jul 23, 2004, 11:58:11 PM7/23/04
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:48:13 -0400, <madis...@nospam.bellsouth.net>
wrote:


Think what you will, it doesn't mean that you actually know anything.

someone

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Jul 30, 2004, 7:22:11 PM7/30/04
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JP Kabala <j...@jpkabala.com> wrote in message
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>< snip ><

> I was right not because I am brilliant, but because I RTM and ...

When I worked in IT a million years ago I was always told to RTFM :-)

s.


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