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FEIVEL

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Jan 26, 2003, 11:50:54 AM1/26/03
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Stephen Stewart

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Jan 26, 2003, 2:51:39 PM1/26/03
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"FEIVEL" <ffeivel-r...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1259669&size=lg
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This is pretty good stuff. It looks realistic and I like the smooth colour
graduations.

What steps did you use?

Stephen


FEIVEL

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Jan 26, 2003, 5:01:23 PM1/26/03
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> What steps did you use?

> Stephen


I'm not *exactly* sure, I was just fooling around, but basically:

1. I increased the contrast, brightness,and color sat more than for a
"normal" photo.
2. applied effects>artistic>brush strokes, used preset watercolor but
changed brush width to 10 and opacity to 100.
3. used average blur, Set to maybe 5
4. This is the really important step, that takes the most artistry and will
separate one result from another. use the retouch>smudge set on max size, 0
hardness, high opacity, 100 density. go over most of the picture, I used
long strokes at first like in the hair, then made smaller strokes 90 degrees
to the direction of the long strokes to blend the colors evenly
5. apply effects>texture effects>texture, I used #56, I don't recall the
other texture settings, probably preset.

I don't like how the eye looks in this picture but I thought smudging in
there might mess it up, probably should have tried smudging with a much
lower opacity and a smaller brush in that area.


Fugitive

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Jan 26, 2003, 5:59:04 PM1/26/03
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:50:54 GMT, "FEIVEL"
<ffeivel-r...@attbi.com> wrote:

>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1259669&size=lg
>


It has a certain pleasant quality, but a couple things bug me. One,
there are features duplicated in it like from a clone tool, theses
should not show. 2. the paper texture is way too harsh for watercolor
paper.

Greg


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Ozzie

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Jan 26, 2003, 6:12:47 PM1/26/03
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Very nice, hope when I try my first watercolour, it comes at least 1/2 as
good.

> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1259669&size=lg
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>


FEIVEL

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Jan 26, 2003, 6:48:46 PM1/26/03
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> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1259669&size=lg
> >
>
>
> It has a certain pleasant quality, but a couple things bug me. One,
> there are features duplicated in it like from a clone tool, theses
> should not show. 2. the paper texture is way too harsh for watercolor
> paper.

> Greg
> New Album
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=fugitive1
> adult gallery. http://community.webshots.com/user/fugitive02
> "Cyberspace scared me so badly, I downloaded in my pants".
> Stephen King, Insomnia

Thanks for your comments, As a matter of fact after looking again at the
image I noticed that same clone thing, it was caused by setting the step too
high on the smudge tool. I tried my second one and think I solved that
problem:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1260473&size=lg

I don't know anything about real watercolor work, do you perhaps have a
suggestion for a different texture? If not I'll just keep experimenting
anyway.


Mike

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Jan 26, 2003, 7:44:04 PM1/26/03
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in article OlUY9.42240$VU6....@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net, FEIVEL at
ffeivel-r...@attbi.com wrote on 1/26/03 8:50 AM:

> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1259669&size=lg
>
>

Looks like the clone tool being used on a stucko wall.

":^) ®

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FEIVEL

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Jan 26, 2003, 8:11:59 PM1/26/03
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> Looks like the clone tool being used on a stucko wall.
> Mike

Thank you, exactly the effect I was trying to create.

p.s. I believe it's usually spelled: "stucco"


Uni

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Jan 26, 2003, 8:23:44 PM1/26/03
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Mike wrote:
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> in article OlUY9.42240$VU6....@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net, FEIVEL at
> ffeivel-r...@attbi.com wrote on 1/26/03 8:50 AM:
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> > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1259669&size=lg
> >
> >
>
> Looks like the clone tool being used on a stucko wall.
>
> ":^) ®


:-))


Uni

Cliff Otto

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Jan 26, 2003, 10:22:21 PM1/26/03
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"FEIVEL" <ffeivel-r...@attbi.com> wrote in
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> Thanks for your comments, As a matter of fact after looking again at
> the image I noticed that same clone thing, it was caused by setting
> the step too high on the smudge tool. I tried my second one and think
> I solved that problem:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1260473&size=lg
>
> I don't know anything about real watercolor work, do you perhaps have
> a suggestion for a different texture? If not I'll just keep
> experimenting anyway.
>

Actually, this does remind me a lot of a watercolor; albeit, one that has
been overwashed. You need to do what you are doing, but with a little less
"water."

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Uni

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Jan 26, 2003, 11:11:34 PM1/26/03
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phaedrus wrote:

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> Mike <mi...@artistmike.com> wrote:
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> >Looks like the clone tool being used on a stucko wall.
>
> "Stucco", bonehead.

You have no "bone" on your head? Guess not, since there's nothing for it
to contain.

Score:

Uni: 1
Phaddy: 0

:-)

Uni

Fugitive

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Jan 26, 2003, 11:52:39 PM1/26/03
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I have ten or more just for w/c paper, and I could send you some or
you could find art supply outlets on line or textures. The textures
don't have to be just for psp as lots of proggies use them and they
are abundant.

Mike

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Jan 27, 2003, 1:50:30 AM1/27/03
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in article On2Z9.227803$Hs2.13...@kent.svc.tds.net, phaedrus at
phae...@apexmail.com wrote on 1/26/03 8:15 PM:


> Been drinking?

> You bet.

Poor drunk Phaedy... hope you don't drive also.

Stephen Stewart

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Jan 27, 2003, 3:40:33 PM1/27/03
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"FEIVEL" <ffeivel-r...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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That's excellent. I didn't realise you'd done so much by hand.

I can see where the banding has come from in relation to the smudge tool.

Great job though.

With regard to giving an impression of the original detail (the eyes etc.)
try the following.

Duplicate your photo layer after stage one.

Apply stage two to the background layer.

Set the blend mode for the duplicate layer to screen and adjust the slider
to your taste.

It worked quite well with the one I tried although it's always difficult to
tell how any one photo will turn out.

Hope this helps.


Stephen


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