But in 5.01, I can't find this function. The default format always show
*.psp
I need change *.psp to *.jpg in each new image. It is make waste many time
to do this.
Well what mean about "SaveAsPSPFormat" : DWORD 0x00000001(1) in SaveAsDialog
in Windows95 regedit.exe ?
Can change this pin to fix my program?
Q.2
When opening scan tools in 5.01 all function key can't be use, such F12,
shift-R,......
Thanks for your attention!!
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Ian
Not everyone has a manual. ;-)
Porter
Ian
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> Point taken but what % of people who have manuals don't read them ?
>
> Ian
>
> PnJnCA wrote:
>
> > >Guess Who hasn't read page 28 of the manual ;-)
> > >
> > >Ian
> >
> > Not everyone has a manual. ;-)
> >
> > Porter
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Hi Laurie,
Actually no one was making fun of anyone.
The thread starts with a question, to which Ian had replied that the answer was
on page 28, and I then reminded him that not everyone has a manual.
Ian acknowledged that point, and the thread then continues on into a general
discussion on the value of manuals and the the likelyhood that they are
actually read all the time by anyone.
The buildup of selected multiple quotes being pasted and repasted can obscure
the point of the thread and often who actually said what.
It appears that I am making the (pretty sure,only meant to be humorous) comment
about the manual which was actually made by Ian, because of the way my name was
later quoted throughout the rest of the posts.
Any thread can become an ongoing discussion that may lead off in several
different directions at the same time. This gets confusing and leads to
misinterpretations as to the actual flavor of the conversation. Sometimes the
only way to sort it out is to go back to the beginning of a thread and read
each post in order.
Once anyone becomes familiar with the group, they will find plenty of good
natured ribbing, shorthand style conversations and some differences of opinion.
However, everyone is very respectful, friendly and kind.
About the only targets would be spammers or someone asking for a crack. I have
to admit they are indeed, "open season" and pretty much "dead meat" around
here.
Everyone else is safe from abuse and very welcome.
Porter
>On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:03:19 +0100, Smith <zx...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Guess Who hasn't read page 28 of the manual ;-)
>>
>>Ian
>>
>>meno wrote:
>>
>>> Q1.
>>> In 4.14 can allow us change default setting format in SaveAsDialog to other
>>> format such as *.jpg
>
>And guess who hasn't read the QUESTION!? The poster wasn't asking how
>to save as .jpg but how to make a DEFAULT save format other than .psp.
>Big difference. There is nothing on page 28 of MY manual about
>changing the default.
>
>Unfortunately, JASC took away this feature with 5.0 and now gives us
>the "Save Copy As" -- which sorta, kinda, lamely does the same thing.
>The problem is that it requires an extra step and if you're saving
>screen captures or scans, you just have to "throw away" the
>original/unsaved image after you go through the "Save Copy As"
>business. . . a less-than-satisfactory approach. We ought to be able
>to set the default for regular "Save" formats, not just "Save Copy
>As."
I doubt that Jasc will change this feature since it's the exact same
method used in Adobe Photo shop, which seems to define the standard
throughout the commercial art field.
I can't see why you'd call it lame as it enhances the ability to
archive a high definition picture while creating the lower ability
pictures for the web.
Save=Save high definition archive picture,
Save Copy As= Save low quality web picture.
Save=.PSP mode,
Save Copy As= last save format.
The copy is the low quality picture for the majority of us, so why
not. As to deleting... many of us save all of our work so we can
re-use parts of it.
Therefore, I suggest that JASC is using the feature in the correct
way, and your use is in error.
D'Lan
>Jane
I asked for a set of Save Copy As buttons - 1 for each format - in the
next version... that way people need add to the toolbar only the Save
format button(s) they prefer... the programmers wouldn't need to add an
Edit Menu item for each one, and could still leave the SaveAs default at
the .PSP format.
Some people might want one for PNG, one for JPG, and one for TIF... some
might want just 2 other (non-.PSP) formats... et cetera... personally,
I want one for GIF, one for JPG, and one for BMP (we already have the
'SaveAs' for saving fresh scans in .PSP format).
I know the JASC rep that monitors this group replied to the thread, but
I didn't get to see it because my newsgroup server ate the message (all
I got was the header... but it had the "Attn: JASC" after the subject,
which I had added).
Maybe if enough people request the
'SaveCopyAs-toolbar-button-for-each-format' feature, that will make it
into the next version.
>On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:03:19 +0100, Smith <zx...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Guess Who hasn't read page 28 of the manual ;-)
>>
>>Ian
>>
>>meno wrote:
>>
>>> Q1.
>>> In 4.14 can allow us change default setting format in SaveAsDialog to other
>>> format such as *.jpg
>
>And guess who hasn't read the QUESTION!? The poster wasn't asking how
>to save as .jpg but how to make a DEFAULT save format other than .psp.
>Big difference. There is nothing on page 28 of MY manual about
>changing the default.
>
>Unfortunately, JASC took away this feature with 5.0 and now gives us
>the "Save Copy As" -- which sorta, kinda, lamely does the same thing.
>The problem is that it requires an extra step and if you're saving
>screen captures or scans, you just have to "throw away" the
>original/unsaved image after you go through the "Save Copy As"
>business. . . a less-than-satisfactory approach. We ought to be able
>to set the default for regular "Save" formats, not just "Save Copy
>As."
>
>Jane
>
>I second (or third) this idea. We do hundreds of scans saving in .jpg
>format and the extra step involved in using" save copy as" is very
>time consuming. Come on JASC let the owner decide what the default is
>and where we want to save it!
>Bob
Ok, maybe you can explain why 'Save Copy As' takes more steps then.
This is precisely the old PSP4 'Save' command, so why does it take
more steps?
D'Lan
D'Lanok de Caresk wrote:
>
> <lots of earlier stuff snipped>
>
> I doubt that Jasc will change this feature since it's the exact same
> method used in Adobe Photo shop, which seems to define the standard
> throughout the commercial art field.
>
> I can't see why you'd call it lame as it enhances the ability to
> archive a high definition picture while creating the lower ability
> pictures for the web.
>
> Save=Save high definition archive picture,
> Save Copy As= Save low quality web picture.
>
> Save=.PSP mode,
> Save Copy As= last save format.
>
> The copy is the low quality picture for the majority of us, so why
> not. As to deleting... many of us save all of our work so we can
> re-use parts of it.
>
> Therefore, I suggest that JASC is using the feature in the correct
> way, and your use is in error.
>
> D'Lan
>
> >Jane
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> Ok, maybe you can explain why 'Save Copy As' takes more steps then.
> This is precisely the old PSP4 'Save' command, so why does it take
> more steps?
For one thing when you close the image PSP 5.0 doesn't recognize that
the image has been saved and you get the window, "Save?". If you say
yes, you get the PSP save. To further compound aggrivation when you come back
in for a second session that non-PSP file isn't part of the File pull down
previous image list at the bottom of the menu. And, I dont' know about others,
but it's more of a pain to hit Ctrl-F12 than it is to hit Ctrl-S. Of course if
you don't type and only use a mouse I guess it doesn't make much difference.
And your support of "JASC is doing no more than others with their
proprietary format" is lame. I thought the one beauty of computers was
organization and consistency. If I can only use PSP within JASC it's
kinda useless to my computer endeavors. My computer activities isn't limited
to PSP, is yours?
>D'Lanok de Caresk wrote:
>>
>
>> Ok, maybe you can explain why 'Save Copy As' takes more steps then.
>> This is precisely the old PSP4 'Save' command, so why does it take
>> more steps?
>
>For one thing when you close the image PSP 5.0 doesn't recognize that
>the image has been saved and you get the window, "Save?". If you say
>yes, you get the PSP save.
So.. you object to clicking on 'no' when you close the program? May I
suggest that you're easily aggravated.
>To further compound aggrivation when you come back
>in for a second session that non-PSP file isn't part of the File pull down
>previous image list at the bottom of the menu. And, I dont' know about others,
>but it's more of a pain to hit Ctrl-F12 than it is to hit Ctrl-S. Of course if
>you don't type and only use a mouse I guess it doesn't make much difference.
Actually, to my way of thinking, there isn't much difference at all.
>
>And your support of "JASC is doing no more than others with their
>proprietary format" is lame. I thought the one beauty of computers was
>organization and consistency.
Are you new to computers? In working with computers for the past 30
years, I have yet to find much that IS organized and consistent. Even
Windows changes considerably from version to version.
>If I can only use PSP within JASC it's
>kinda useless to my computer endeavors. My computer activities isn't limited
>to PSP, is yours?
>
No, but on the other hand, there isn't much that is universal these
days. Adobe's PSD (version 5) doesn't exchange between PSP5, Painter
5, or any other program. In order to use PS5, I have to save the
graphic, fire up PS 4, load the image, then save as PSD format in
order to use Painter 5. Luckily, most of Meta Creations programs use
a pretty universal version of PSD, so I can use that, even with PSP5,
Bryce 3D, Poser 3, and a few other programs I use. Some consistency,
eh?
D'Lan
>
>I second (or third) this idea. We do hundreds of scans saving in .jpg
>format and the extra step involved in using" save copy as" is very
>time consuming. Come on JASC let the owner decide what the default is
>and where we want to save it!
>Bob
While I agree with the sentiment, why don't you use "File/Batch
Conversion" until JASC bows to public pressure.
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is out)and am just starting to work with it. How do you like the version 3?
I haven't seen much about it yet, and am squirming a little at the $100
upgrade cost. (sorry for going off-topic. I gotta quit playing with so many
different programs and concentrate on one. Hopefully PSP5.) ROTC
>In article <35e643e9...@news.mindspring.com>,
>>....
>> a pretty universal version of PSD, so I can use that, even with PSP5,
>> Bryce 3D, Poser 3, and a few other programs I use. Some consistency,
>> eh?
>>
>> D'Lan
>>
>>Ah! Someone who uses Poser 3. I picked up Poser 2 on the cheap (as Poser 3
>
>is out)and am just starting to work with it. How do you like the version 3?
>I haven't seen much about it yet, and am squirming a little at the $100
>upgrade cost. (sorry for going off-topic. I gotta quit playing with so many
>different programs and concentrate on one. Hopefully PSP5.) ROTC
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3 concentrates on more details, such as the face, hands and feet. The
trouble is if you expand the image enough to see facial details, you
can also see where the items are patched in. i.e. ears look like
they're on plugs that have been partially inserted into the head.
While this is supposed to be one of the advantages of 3 over 2, it's
my feeling that the programmers forgot the primary function of the
program is to give the artist a model to work upon.
If you're wanting a basic model to paint upon, 2 will satisfy you. 3
will only add details that may not help much. On the other hand....
Vice versa for generating a finished product.
D'Lan