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Walt Mixon

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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I am looking for the techniques or plugins necessary to create
watercolor effects from photos for output on watercolor papers with
inkjet printers (Epson with archival inks). Can anyone point me in the
right direction to get started with this?


-Deborah-

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Jan 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/17/00
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I can't give you any advice on printing these things, but a great FREE
plugin for creating watercolor effects is the Paint Engine. You can
find it here: http://www.fantasticmachines.com/

Deborah

watercolo...@my-deja.com

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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You need to play around in photoshop with the filters to get the
desired effect. -sharon
In article <3883682C...@galaxyispc.com>,

Walt Mixon <wmi...@galaxyispc.com> wrote:
> I am looking for the techniques or plugins necessary to create
> watercolor effects from photos for output on watercolor papers with
> inkjet printers (Epson with archival inks). Can anyone point me in the
> right direction to get started with this?
>
>


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Nightingail

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Jan 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/29/00
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I don't know anything about the printing end of it, but there's a great
free plugin called PaintEngine for doing all different kinds of artistic
effects with PSP, including watercolor. You can d/l it here:

http://www.fantasticmachines.com/index.html

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D. Lewis

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:00:23 GMT, watercolo...@my-deja.com
wrote:

>You need to play around in photoshop with the filters to get the
>desired effect. -sharon

The filters in Photoshop are barely adequate for creating watercolor
effects. And, I know of only the free, Fantastic Machines "Paint
Engine" plugin, which can provide some interesting painterly effects,
in Photoshop, or in Paint Shop Pro. The download URL is:
http://www.fantasticmachines.com/Downloads/Paint_Engine/fmpe112.zip

I hate to give Microsoft credit for having the best tools to create
painterly images, from photos, but IMHO that's the case. (At least in
terms of having a filter apply an effect to an enrire image...as
opposed to Metacreations Painter, where individual bush strokes can
simulate painting.) Starting with the "Impressionist" filter in Image
Composer 1.5, Microsoft further developed the effects in Photodraw
2000, and in Picture It. Between the two, I'd give Picture It the
edge. It's designed for beginners (sacrificing user configurabilty to
many of its tools), and it renders images faster. It does require the
installation of Internet Explorer 5.0, if you aren't already using it.
I'm not sure if a demo is available from the Microsoft site, but I
suspect so......

Ronald Vick

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:52:00 -0800, D. Lewis <dal...@advnet.net>
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Meta Creations Painter 6 has the edge for painterly effects, although
it creates a love/hate relationship with it's users.

Look it up at their web site.

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Kharis

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Jan 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/30/00
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:38:26 -0500, Ronald Vick
<ronald.no...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Meta Creations Painter 6 has the edge for painterly effects, although
>it creates a love/hate relationship with it's users.

My impression is that Painter requires individual "brushstrokes", to
create painterly qualities. (Does it have FX filters which can be
globally applied to a photo, such that a "watercolor" can be generated
as quickly as the user's system can render it?) Although I use a
graphics tablet, I find "painting" in graphics programs to be a
tedious, exasperating process. Consequently, I've looked far and
wide for combinations of effects filters which can produce reasonably
authentic "fine art", with the click of a button.

Given my choice, I'd use the Image Composer "Impressionist" filter
as a plugin in Paint Shop Pro, to create the initial "painting" from a
photo. But, it takes FOREVER to render the image with my system
(a problem I addresed to this group some time ago). It is remarkably
user configuable, brushes of your own design can be imported (in
tiff format), and your custom settings can be saved. Then, if I
wished more of an oil painting look, I'd open the modified image
in Picture It, and apply one of it's FX filters (again using a custom
brush shape that I made). The brush "strokes" are almost
indistinguishable from real oil paintings......

Please excuse the lengthiness of this post; I know that there are many
folks who would like to create artsy looking images from photos. The
simple truth is that the vast majority of FX "art" filters produce
phoney looking results, including those from ULead PhotoImpact 5,
Micrografx Image 1.0, Photoshop, and Photoline 6, and Professor
Franklin's Photo Effects. Good results can be achieved, but only by
combining techniques in one or more programs, often with user
customization of the tools available.

Returning to the original question that was posted, the single best
watercolor effect I've found is the watercolor filter in Corel Photo
Paint 9...... too much "bleed" of colors into each other, but all in
all, a very nice effect!

Ronald Vick

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:46:30 -0800, Kharis <mum...@curse.net> Stated
this:

While Painter 6 is not a program I'd recommend for a beginner, it has
many powerful effects I haven't seen in any other program. As you
said, brush, pencil, knife strokes are duplicated in oil and water
effect.

There are also many effects that can be applied to the entire image,
usually trying to duplicate artistic effects by known artists.

Chunk Kiesling

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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"D. Lewis" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:00:23 GMT, watercolo...@my-deja.com
> wrote:
>
> >You need to play around in photoshop with the filters to get the
> >desired effect. -sharon
> The filters in Photoshop are barely adequate for creating watercolor
> effects. And, I know of only the free, Fantastic Machines "Paint
> Engine" plugin, which can provide some interesting painterly effects,
> in Photoshop, or in Paint Shop Pro. The download URL is:
> http://www.fantasticmachines.com/Downloads/Paint_Engine/fmpe112.zip
>
> I hate to give Microsoft credit for having the best tools to create
> painterly images, from photos, but IMHO that's the case. (At least in
> terms of having a filter apply an effect to an enrire image...as
> opposed to Metacreations Painter, where individual bush strokes can
> simulate painting.) Starting with the "Impressionist" filter in Image
> Composer 1.5, Microsoft further developed the effects in Photodraw
> 2000, and in Picture It. Between the two, I'd give Picture It the
> edge. It's designed for beginners (sacrificing user configurabilty to
> many of its tools), and it renders images faster. It does require the
> installation of Internet Explorer 5.0, if you aren't already using it.
> I'm not sure if a demo is available from the Microsoft site, but I
> suspect so......

MS Photoeditor included with their office suite also does a similar job.

Chunk Kiesling

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