Landscape distortion
Barbara J. Bradley
landscape, it is distorted. The problem is the same whether I rotate the photo
or select landscape in the print dialog. People are stretched vertically by a
few pixels (horizontally when in landscape). It is not just the image on my
monitor, the photos print distorted. Photos I printed today were 300dpi and
scaled to 150%. Anyone have any ideas of what causes the distortion? Thanks.
Barb
Bob Dietz
I can't find a way to reproduce that behavior here.
More information may be needed.
I presume that you're using Image> Rotate... - and not the deformation tool.
Is there a check mark next to 'All layers' in the Rotate dialog?
What do you see in the Image Information dialog both before
and after rotating the image?
Have you measured the printed output with a ruler?
How does that measurement compare with the numbers
in the Image Information dialog?
What are the settings Page Setup?
Bob
Kris Zaklika
>
> I thought it was an illusion but I am certain when I rotate a photo to print in
> landscape, it is distorted. The problem is the same whether I rotate the photo
> or select landscape in the print dialog.
This is singularly weird since conversion from portrait
to landscape or rotation by 90 degrees only involves the
swapping of x and y coordinates.
> People are stretched vertically by a
> few pixels (horizontally when in landscape).
Never mind the print for now. Post the before and after
rotation images somewhere so we can take a look. What
are the actual image sizes in pixels of the images for
which you see this problem? What are the pixel sizes
after rotation? How are you doing the rotation?
> It is not just the image on my
> monitor, the photos print distorted. Photos I printed today were 300dpi and
> scaled to 150%. Anyone have any ideas of what causes the distortion? Thanks.
> Barb
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if so, uncheck it, and try printing.
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"Barbara J. Bradley" <barb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Barbara J. Bradley
writes:
>
>I presume that you're using Image> Rotate... - and not the deformation tool.
>Is there a check mark next to 'All layers' in the Rotate dialog?
Yes, when I rotate the image in PSP, I use Image>Rotage. The image is
just a background layer.
>
>What do you see in the Image Information dialog both before
>and after rotating the image?
Image information is the same before and after rotate.
>
>Have you measured the printed output with a ruler?
>
>How does that measurement compare with the numbers
>in the Image Information dialog?
Yes, in image information at 150%, the width is 6.52 and height 5.85
inches. The print measures 6 1/2 inches by 5 7/8 inches which is 5.875.
>What are the settings Page Setup?
When I rotate the image, in page setup I select Portrait, image centered
and 150% (which does not fill the page in either direction). I also tried not
rotating the image and selecting landscape in Page Setup. Either way, the
distortion is visually perceptible on the monitor as well as in the print. The
distortion is not very noticable except when people are involved and their
heads are elongated.
If you would like one of the images I used this morning, I will e-mail one
to you.
Thanks.
Barb
Uni
>
> Do you have the "fit to page" option checked?
> if so, uncheck it, and try printing.
I never had a printer which changed the aspect ratio of an image when I
stretched or fitted it to a page.
I'd blame it all on Paint Shop Pro!
I think it's either an XP or Windows registry problem, AGAIN.
Uni
Barbara J. Bradley
No, that is not the problem.
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
writes:
>
>"Barbara J. Bradley" wrote:
>>
>> I thought it was an illusion but I am certain when I rotate a photo to
>print in
>> landscape, it is distorted. The problem is the same whether I rotate the
>photo
>> or select landscape in the print dialog.
>
>This is singularly weird since conversion from portrait
>to landscape or rotation by 90 degrees only involves the
>swapping of x and y coordinates.
>
>> People are stretched vertically by a
>> few pixels (horizontally when in landscape).
>
>Never mind the print for now. Post the before and after
>rotation images somewhere so we can take a look. What
>are the actual image sizes in pixels of the images for
>which you see this problem? What are the pixel sizes
>after rotation? How are you doing the rotation?
>
>> It is not just the image on my
>> monitor, the photos print distorted. Photos I printed today were 300dpi
>and
>> scaled to 150%. Anyone have any ideas of what causes the distortion?
>Thanks.
>> Barb
>
Two pictures posted at http://hometown.aol.com/barbbrad1/joel.html
I rotated (Image>Rotate>90degrees) the original picture and saved with
another name. Both pictures were resized (Image>Resize>SmartSize) to 50% of
the original size before posting. See my responses to Bob.
Barb
Kris Zaklika
If you measure the width of the man's head from the outside
edge of one ear to the outside edge of the other it is 193
pixels in both images. If you measure the height of the man's
head from the top of the hair to the top of the V of the
collar it 317 pixels in both images. However, you very
definitely stated that there was a distortion, not just in
the printed image but also on screen after rotation, even
though objectively the two images are the same. Forgive the
personal questions, but did you get new glasses recently?
Do you see straight lines as exactly straight? Have you been
playing with barrel or pincushion adjustment on your monitor?
Can you think of anything that could have changed in your
display lately? A new monitor perhaps? A change of screen
resolution?
Jackie Laderoute
wrote:
> Two pictures posted at http://hometown.aol.com/barbbrad1/joel.html
>
> I rotated (Image>Rotate>90degrees) the original picture and saved with
>another name. Both pictures were resized (Image>Resize>SmartSize) to 50% of
>the original size before posting. See my responses to Bob.
Are you sure there is any distortion? It may be an optical illusion.
I downloaded both images, and zoomed in very close. I chose two
distinct reference points in both images - a central pixel of the tie
tack which is a darker grey than the others, and a group of three very
dark pixels at the top of the groom's hair. By identifying these
distinct pixels, I was able to drag out two guidelines - one to the
exact left/top of the grey pixel; and another to the exact left/top of
the three-pixel group. With me so far?
I then enabled "Snap to Guides" and drew a line between the two
guides. Watching the status bar to ensure that I was staying straight
also allowed me to check the length of the line - 356 pixels on both
images.
While I'll admit his face looks longer on the rotated image, my
measurements are telling me that it's not...
Jackie
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Ronald Vick
wrote:
>In article <3DA08699...@yahoo.com>, Bob Dietz <rbdiet...@yahoo.com>
They look ok to me. This makes me think that you may have the monitor
out of alignment.
Drag out a square on the screen. Make certain it's the same pixels in
vertical and horizontal. Use a ruler to measure the display and
adjust vertical and horizontal size controls until they match.
Jaggiemeister Ron - PSP terrorist
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Porter
All I'm seeing between those two image, is that your rotated version has a
one pixel row of an additional black band; thus increasing that image's
overall size from 252 pixels to 253. If I shave that extra black border off
(select it with the wand, invert selection, and copy those contents), then
PASTE that copied image as the new layer above your original? They appear
to be identical. Granted, I only eyeballed it; and didn't poke any
mathematical testing dipsticks up its rump, to confirm beyond a shadow of a
doubt, or to be able to testify in open court. Nonetheless, that sucker
sure looks the same to me. :) Either something beyond what we see here is
happening later on in your process, or you are hitting that cooking sherry
again Barb. Just in case? Step 1, is recognizing that you've got a
problem. :)
Porter
Porter
"Kris Zaklika" <kzak...@jasc.com> wrote in message
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Well now, here yields some major differences between the observational
skills of a scientist, and an artiste (she laughed). The scientist
continues looking under every possible rock, while the artiste just calls
the complainant a drunk, and moves on. :)
Porter
Barbara J. Bradley
writes:
>
>If you measure the width of the man's head from the outside
>edge of one ear to the outside edge of the other it is 193
>pixels in both images. If you measure the height of the man's
>head from the top of the hair to the top of the V of the
>collar it 317 pixels in both images. However, you very
>definitely stated that there was a distortion, not just in
>the printed image but also on screen after rotation, even
>though objectively the two images are the same. Forgive the
>personal questions, but did you get new glasses recently?
>Do you see straight lines as exactly straight? Have you been
>playing with barrel or pincushion adjustment on your monitor?
>Can you think of anything that could have changed in your
>display lately? A new monitor perhaps? A change of screen
>resolution?
>
I'm old enough not to mind you asking personal questions. <g> No, I didn't
just get new glasses. Yes, I see straight lines as straight and my visual
perception is very good. I have a 19" flat screen CRT and everything is
straight as an arrow. Monitor is two years old and no change of screen
resolution in more than a year. Are my eyes distorted? Who knows . . .
except I ask someone else to look at the rotated and printed picture and he
agreed both looked distorted from the original picture.
I could understand the appearance of distortion on my monitor but when the
picture prints with the distortion, that is a puzzle. It is obvious when I hold
the print beside the image on screen. I told Bob the width of the landscape
picture prints a bit larger than the image information states. However, I used
a ruler in inches before and just measured again with millimeters. The print
is very, very close in both directions to the Image Information in centimeters.
Does the posted rotated picture appear any different to you than the
original? Thank you and Bob for your time. I think this is a dead horse. <g>
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
<campratty...@attbi.com> writes:
>Either something beyond what we see here is
>happening later on in your process, or you are hitting that cooking sherry
>again Barb. Just in case? Step 1, is recognizing that you've got a
>problem. :)
>
>Porter
Believe me, I don't go with anything as mundane as cooking sherry - only the
best wine here. Yes, I have a problem, the same one most married women have.
What is Step 2? <g>
Barb
P.S. I see the black line on the web page but it isn't on my original images.
Kris Zaklika
Now that cooking sherry has entered the picture as a
possibility I shall factor it into my calculations.
Perhaps my future answers should be restricted to
"lay off the sherry" and/or "clean your registry".
Certainly some people's Crop tool seems to have been
hitting the tequila.
> Porter
Kris Zaklika
They look the same and, since it's easy for me to rotate the
monitor on my laptop just by turning the whole thing, I feel
pretty confident of that. I knew that measurements to the
nearest 1/8th of an inch were useless, but unless you have
a thin metal scale calibrated in 1/32 inch and know how to
correct for parallax you won't get far making measurements
with a ruler. As for someone else's opinion, that can be
readily colored by the power of suggestion. Alternatively,
the Mouton Lafitte Rothschild has been flowing more freely
than your budget allows for the longer term. You certainly
shouldn't have been giving any of it to the horse. Just
look what it did to him.
Barbara J. Bradley
<jflad...@shaw.ca> writes:
>
>I then enabled "Snap to Guides" and drew a line between the two
>guides. Watching the status bar to ensure that I was staying straight
>also allowed me to check the length of the line - 356 pixels on both
>images.
>
>While I'll admit his face looks longer on the rotated image, my
>measurements are telling me that it's not...
>
>Jackie
>
>
Thanks, Jackie. After I adjusted the height of the window in my monitor,
both pictures appear to be the same.
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
<Ron...@cfl.rr.com> writes:
>
>They look ok to me. This makes me think that you may have the monitor
>out of alignment.
>
>Drag out a square on the screen. Make certain it's the same pixels in
>vertical and horizontal. Use a ruler to measure the display and
>adjust vertical and horizontal size controls until they match.
>
>
>Jaggiemeister Ron - PSP terrorist
>Questions? Answers at http://campratty.com/questions.html
>
That is the answer. <g> I had to heighten my display to get it to match
the width. Don't know how it became out of align but it did. Now both pictures
appear the same and my print looks okay - whew! I'm not crazy after all!
Barb
Kris Zaklika
Since Porter is encouraging me to do this, I have to say you
are crazy :) It is crazy to make changes like that without
using a reference square in making this sort of adjustment.
Barbara J. Bradley
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
writes:
>
>Now that cooking sherry has entered the picture as a
>possibility I shall factor it into my calculations.
>Perhaps my future answers should be restricted to
>"lay off the sherry" and/or "clean your registry".
>Certainly some people's Crop tool seems to have been
>hitting the tequila.
>
enough not to jump right to the booze as the problem. :-) He was taking the
side roads and alleys.
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
<campratty...@attbi.com> writes:
>> If you measure the width of the man's head from the outside
>> edge of one ear to the outside edge of the other it is 193
>> pixels in both images. If you measure the height of the man's
>> head from the top of the hair to the top of the V of the
>> collar it 317 pixels in both images. However, you very
>> definitely stated that there was a distortion, not just in
>> the printed image but also on screen after rotation, even
>> though objectively the two images are the same. Forgive the
>> personal questions, but did you get new glasses recently?
>> Do you see straight lines as exactly straight? Have you been
>> playing with barrel or pincushion adjustment on your monitor?
>> Can you think of anything that could have changed in your
>> display lately? A new monitor perhaps? A change of screen
>> resolution?
>
>Well now, here yields some major differences between the observational
>skills of a scientist, and an artiste (she laughed). The scientist
>continues looking under every possible rock, while the artiste just calls
>the complainant a drunk, and moves on. :)
>
>Porter
>
I think I prefer the scientific point of view. :-)
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
writes:
> Alternatively,
>the Mouton Lafitte Rothschild has been flowing more freely
>than your budget allows for the longer term. You certainly
>shouldn't have been giving any of it to the horse. Just
>look what it did to him.
>
So . . now you profess to know about my budget - I don't think I gave that
information when you were asking personal questions. Mouton Lafitte
Rothschild is overrated - I tried it once and took it off my list.
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
writes:
>>
>> That is the answer. <g> I had to heighten my display to get it to
>match
>> the width. Don't know how it became out of align but it did. Now both
>pictures
>> appear the same and my print looks okay - whew! I'm not crazy after all!
>> Barb
>
>Since Porter is encouraging me to do this, I have to say you
>are crazy :) It is crazy to make changes like that without
>using a reference square in making this sort of adjustment.
>
Which adjustment? The one I just did? I used a reference square. Don't
try to blame Porter for what you say - she isn't a very responsible person!
8-)
Barb
Barb
Jackie Laderoute
wrote:
>In article <3DA0C3C5...@jasc.com>, Kris Zaklika <kzak...@jasc.com>
<Laugh> It could be worse, Barb - he might have said "Thunderbird". Or
- shudder - Mogen David. ;-)
Kris Zaklika
It's still on my list but so far all I have is the list :)
Barbara J. Bradley
<jflad...@shaw.ca> writes:
>
>On 06 Oct 2002 23:48:00 GMT, barb...@aol.com (Barbara J. Bradley)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <3DA0C3C5...@jasc.com>, Kris Zaklika <kzak...@jasc.com>
>>writes:
>>
>>> Alternatively,
>>>the Mouton Lafitte Rothschild has been flowing more freely
>>>than your budget allows for the longer term. You certainly
>>>shouldn't have been giving any of it to the horse. Just
>>>look what it did to him.
>>>
>>
>> So . . now you profess to know about my budget - I don't think I gave
>that
>>information when you were asking personal questions. Mouton Lafitte
>>Rothschild is overrated - I tried it once and took it off my list.
>
><Laugh> It could be worse, Barb - he might have said "Thunderbird". Or
>- shudder - Mogen David. ;-)
>
>Jackie
>
I'm not familiar with Thunderbird - is it a Canadian wine? Can't be worse
than Mogen David. :-)
Barb
Jackie Laderoute
wrote:
>In article <dej1qusulruo0brf3...@4ax.com>, Jackie Laderoute
><jflad...@shaw.ca> writes:
>
>>
>>On 06 Oct 2002 23:48:00 GMT, barb...@aol.com (Barbara J. Bradley)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3DA0C3C5...@jasc.com>, Kris Zaklika <kzak...@jasc.com>
>>>writes:
>>>
>>>> Alternatively,
>>>>the Mouton Lafitte Rothschild has been flowing more freely
>>>>than your budget allows for the longer term. You certainly
>>>>shouldn't have been giving any of it to the horse. Just
>>>>look what it did to him.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So . . now you profess to know about my budget - I don't think I gave
>>that
>>>information when you were asking personal questions. Mouton Lafitte
>>>Rothschild is overrated - I tried it once and took it off my list.
>>
>><Laugh> It could be worse, Barb - he might have said "Thunderbird". Or
>>- shudder - Mogen David. ;-)
>>
>>Jackie
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with Thunderbird - is it a Canadian wine? Can't be worse
>than Mogen David. :-)
Don't bet on that - it's a California wine, actually. One of Ernest
and Julio Gallo's fortified series (famous also for "Ripple"). High
alcohol and cheap, it's a favoured tipple for the underprivileged set.
Where you must drink champagnes properly only from a flute (and I
won't get into the glass vs. crystal vs. silver vs. pewter debate),
the only appropriate decanter for Thunderbird appears to be a brown
paper bag. ;-)
Porter
"Barbara J. Bradley" <barb...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Believe me, I don't go with anything as mundane as cooking sherry -
only the
> best wine here. Yes, I have a problem, the same one most married women
have.
> What is Step 2? <g>
Confirm your current HMO is Prozac friendly, and get thee to a nunnery.
Preferably one with broadband.
Port
Kris Zaklika
What's the word?
Thunderbird!
What's the price?
Forty four twice.
What's the reason?
It's drinkin' season!
From my days in Detroit. That's cents not dollars of course.
Porter
and cheap, it's a favoured tipple for the underprivileged set.
>
> Where you must drink champagnes properly only from a flute (and I
> won't get into the glass vs. crystal vs. silver vs. pewter debate),
> the only appropriate decanter for Thunderbird appears to be a brown
> paper bag. ;-)
What is it with you people? Anybody in the real world knows, that you drink
Thunderbird from an old 7up can (so you can drive too), and Mogen David is
perfection over cherry vanilla ice cream.
Porter
Bill Schnakenberg
> On 06 Oct 2002 23:48:00 GMT, barb...@aol.com (Barbara J. Bradley)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <3DA0C3C5...@jasc.com>, Kris Zaklika <kzak...@jasc.com>
> >writes:
> >
> >> Alternatively,
> >>the Mouton Lafitte Rothschild has been flowing more freely
> >>than your budget allows for the longer term. You certainly
> >>shouldn't have been giving any of it to the horse. Just
> >>look what it did to him.
> >>
> >
> > So . . now you profess to know about my budget - I don't think I gave that
> >information when you were asking personal questions. Mouton Lafitte
> >Rothschild is overrated - I tried it once and took it off my list.
>
> <Laugh> It could be worse, Barb - he might have said "Thunderbird". Or
> - shudder - Mogen David. ;-)
...or even more worse, "Cold Duck"
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> Where you must drink champagnes properly only from a flute (and I
> won't get into the glass vs. crystal vs. silver vs. pewter debate),
> the only appropriate decanter for Thunderbird appears to be a brown
> paper bag. ;-)
>
> Jackie
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Barbara J. Bradley
<will...@frontiernet.net> writes:
>
>Jackie Laderoute wrote:
>
>> On 06 Oct 2002 23:48:00 GMT, barb...@aol.com (Barbara J. Bradley)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <3DA0C3C5...@jasc.com>, Kris Zaklika <kzak...@jasc.com>
>> >writes:
>> >
>> >> Alternatively,
>> >>the Mouton Lafitte Rothschild has been flowing more freely
>> >>than your budget allows for the longer term. You certainly
>> >>shouldn't have been giving any of it to the horse. Just
>> >>look what it did to him.
>> >>
>> >
>> > So . . now you profess to know about my budget - I don't think I gave
>that
>> >information when you were asking personal questions. Mouton Lafitte
>> >Rothschild is overrated - I tried it once and took it off my list.
>>
>> <Laugh> It could be worse, Barb - he might have said "Thunderbird". Or
>> - shudder - Mogen David. ;-)
>
>...or even more worse, "Cold Duck"
>
I remember Andre Cold Duck - way back when we were young, foolish and
couldn't afford the good stuff. Cold Duck originated in Germany and don't
remember where it was/is produced in the US.
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
<jflad...@shaw.ca> writes:
>>
>> I'm not familiar with Thunderbird - is it a Canadian wine? Can't be
>worse
>>than Mogen David. :-)
>
>Don't bet on that - it's a California wine, actually. One of Ernest
>and Julio Gallo's fortified series (famous also for "Ripple"). High
>alcohol and cheap, it's a favoured tipple for the underprivileged set.
>
>Where you must drink champagnes properly only from a flute (and I
>won't get into the glass vs. crystal vs. silver vs. pewter debate),
>the only appropriate decanter for Thunderbird appears to be a brown
>paper bag. ;-)
>
>Jackie
>
Does anyone remember wine in a box? Haven't seen it in many years. In
Minneapolis in the 60s, we got milk delivered in the same type of box with a
spigot.
Barb
Bill Schnakenberg
I hope nowhere. :-)
Bill Schnakenberg
Wine in a box is still around. Milk in a box I haven't seen in a long time, but
how about Starbuck's hot coffee in a box? Seen that in Minnesota this year. I
don't have any Starbucks within any distance that I would care to drive.
Cliff
news:20021006214953...@mb-ck.aol.com:
> Does anyone remember wine in a box? Haven't seen it in many years.
> In
> Minneapolis in the 60s, we got milk delivered in the same type of box
> with a spigot.
Got a box of it in the fridge as I type.
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Jackie Laderoute
<will...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>"Barbara J. Bradley" wrote:
>
>> In article <3DA0DF84...@frontiernet.net>, Bill Schnakenberg
>> <will...@frontiernet.net> writes:
>> >
>> >...or even more worse, "Cold Duck"
>> >
>> I remember Andre Cold Duck - way back when we were young, foolish and
>> couldn't afford the good stuff. Cold Duck originated in Germany and don't
>> remember where it was/is produced in the US.
>
>I hope nowhere. :-)
Well, Andre's Cold Duck was a commercial version of a real German wine
punch. A Bavarian practice was to mix bottles of previously opened
Champagne with cold sparkling Burgundy so the Champagne wouldn't be
wasted. The Germans called it kalte ende ("cold end"); but the "ende"
gradually became corrupted to "ente" (duck).
So, a real cold duck is something like the following:
1 Lemon, peeled for zest
2 tb Lemon juice (from peeled lemon)
2 tb Sugar
4 dashes Angostura bitters
16 oz sparkling Burgundy (sparkling Shiraz)
8 oz dry Champagne
Chill wine and champagne. Chill glass punch bowl thoroughly in
refrigerator or by filling with ice. When cold, dissolve sugar in
lemon juice in it. Add bitters. Peel lemon in spiral, with top of
lemon left on. Rub lemon spiral around sides of bowl and leave peel
in bowl, hanging top end over edge. Pour wine over peel and let stand
in refrigerator, 15-20 minutes. Add chilled champagne and serve
immediately.
It's almost, but not quite, entirely unlike Andre's Cold Duck.
Barbara J. Bradley
<will...@frontiernet.net> writes:
>>
>> Does anyone remember wine in a box? Haven't seen it in many years. In
>> Minneapolis in the 60s, we got milk delivered in the same type of box with
>a
>> spigot.
>> Barb
>
>Wine in a box is still around. Milk in a box I haven't seen in a long time,
>but
>how about Starbuck's hot coffee in a box? Seen that in Minnesota this year. I
>don't have any Starbucks within any distance that I would care to drive.
>
Yea, Starbucks. One of the few stocks doing very well. Haven't heard
about hot coffee in a box - is this a one serving box or larger box? We have a
few Starbucks within easy distance so I will check for the box next time I'm
there.
Barb
Bill Schnakenberg
It holds a number of cups of coffee. It is a brown thick cardboard box that is
folded like a tent on top (I didn't study it, so I could be wrong). I don't
remember the exact size but it was about 8" square. I guess it was for the office
crowd that doesn't want to make their own coffee at the office.
Fugitive
>
>Well now, here yields some major differences between the observational
>skills of a scientist, and an artiste (she laughed). The scientist
>continues looking under every possible rock, while the artiste just calls
>the complainant a drunk, and moves on. :)
>
>Porter
>
Couldn't reply to all in this thread, though it might be fun. I used
to think Cold Duck was high class stuff. I also drank Ripple, many
gallons of the stuff. T-Bird was so bad, I only drank it once. We also
had Tyrolia, another by Gallo, no doubt. Annie Greensprings, I think,
and some other cheap wines, mostly, I think, from the Gallo Brothers.
A bottle of Ripple and a joint was pure heaven in '71. Now to the end
game. Was Barbara's problem solved? Was it a Cooking Sherry induced
distortion? I'll have to go look to see who was doing the tequila.
Greg
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Barbara J. Bradley
<baseb...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>barb...@aol.com (Barbara J. Bradley) wrote in
>news:20021006214953...@mb-ck.aol.com:
>
>> Does anyone remember wine in a box? Haven't seen it in many years.
>> In
>> Minneapolis in the 60s, we got milk delivered in the same type of box
>> with a spigot.
>
>Got a box of it in the fridge as I type.
>
I hope you mean milk. <gg>
Barb
Barbara J. Bradley
<will...@frontiernet.net> writes:
>> >> <Laugh> It could be worse, Barb - he might have said "Thunderbird". Or
>> >> - shudder - Mogen David. ;-)
>> >
>> >...or even more worse, "Cold Duck"
>> >
>> I remember Andre Cold Duck - way back when we were young, foolish
>and
>> couldn't afford the good stuff. Cold Duck originated in Germany and don't
>> remember where it was/is produced in the US.
>> Barb
>
>I hope nowhere. :-)
>
Seems as though it is still out there.
http://www.vtwines.com/sparklingwines.htm
Barbara J. Bradley
<gregfar...@earthlink.net> writes:
>Now to the end
>game. Was Barbara's problem solved? Was it a Cooking Sherry induced
>distortion? I'll have to go look to see who was doing the tequila.
>
At least one of my problems was solved but you will enjoy reading about
all of them. <g>
Barb
Bill Schnakenberg
> >
> >Well now, here yields some major differences between the observational
> >skills of a scientist, and an artiste (she laughed). The scientist
> >continues looking under every possible rock, while the artiste just calls
> >the complainant a drunk, and moves on. :)
> >
> >Porter
> >
>
> Couldn't reply to all in this thread, though it might be fun. I used
> to think Cold Duck was high class stuff. I also drank Ripple, many
> gallons of the stuff. T-Bird was so bad, I only drank it once. We also
> had Tyrolia, another by Gallo, no doubt. Annie Greensprings, I think,
> and some other cheap wines, mostly, I think, from the Gallo Brothers.
Musta had some Boone's Farm Apple wine in there somewhere.
>
> A bottle of Ripple and a joint was pure heaven in '71. Now to the end
> game. Was Barbara's problem solved? Was it a Cooking Sherry induced
> distortion? I'll have to go look to see who was doing the tequila.
>
> Greg
>
> a couple a things http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291841637
> adult gallery. http://community.webshots.com/user/fugitive02
> "Paintings are never finished, only abandoned" (Picasso)
Cliff
Well, it's not the container that says, "Sell by Oct 07."
Fugitive
>
>Musta had some Boone's Farm Apple wine in there somewhere.
That's the one I couldn't think of, a lot of misty, musty, blurry
memories there.
Nightingail
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> Jackie Laderoute wrote:
> > <Laugh> It could be worse, Barb - he might have said "Thunderbird".
Or
> > - shudder - Mogen David. ;-)
>
> ...or even more worse, "Cold Duck"
>
Hehehe! When I was growing up, 'wine' was synonymous with Mogen David
(or Manischewitz) at our house. Fortunately, my pals introduced me to
Boone's Farm when I reached my teens ;-))
Gail
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>From: "Sally Beacham"
>Dunkin' Donuts "Box of Joe."
>
>No kidding.
>
Hell yeah <g>. But I have a lb of DD and 1/2 lb of starbucks in my freezer...
gotta be prepared <bg>
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> In article <3DA08699...@yahoo.com>, Bob Dietz
<rbdiet...@yahoo.com>
> writes:
> >
> >I presume that you're using Image> Rotate... - and not the deformation
tool.
> >Is there a check mark next to 'All layers' in the Rotate dialog?
>
> Yes, when I rotate the image in PSP, I use Image>Rotage. The image
is
> just a background layer.
>
> >
> >What do you see in the Image Information dialog both before
> >and after rotating the image?
>
> Image information is the same before and after rotate.
>
> >
> >Have you measured the printed output with a ruler?
> >
> >How does that measurement compare with the numbers
> >in the Image Information dialog?
>
> Yes, in image information at 150%, the width is 6.52 and height 5.85
> inches. The print measures 6 1/2 inches by 5 7/8 inches which is 5.875.
>
> >What are the settings Page Setup?
>
> When I rotate the image, in page setup I select Portrait, image
centered
> and 150% (which does not fill the page in either direction). I also tried
not
> rotating the image and selecting landscape in Page Setup. Either way, the
> distortion is visually perceptible on the monitor as well as in the print.
The
> distortion is not very noticable except when people are involved and their
> heads are elongated.
>
> If you would like one of the images I used this morning, I will e-mail
one
> to you.
> Thanks.
> Barb
>
>