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Jan 18, 2002, 4:12:19 PM1/18/02
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I am running Windows 2000 and I have installed the Adobe Jenson MM fonts
with ATM Lite 4.1 but the fonts fail to appear in the Pagemaker 7.0 typeface
dropdown menu. The Jenson fonts do appear in Photoshop and Word font
lists.

I have uninstalled the fonts, ATM and Pagemaker and reinstalled them 3 times
to no avail. I have also installed Pagemaker 6.5 and I get the same
problem.

The Jenson fonts have been installed to the c:\psfonts\pfm directory. There
are also shortcuts to the Jenson fonts in the c:\winnt\fonts directory. I
have removed these shortcuts and the fonts and reinstalled them but the
problem persists.

I have installed Pagemaker 7.0, ATM Lite 4.1 and the Jenson fonts to another
PC running Windows 2000 and the font appears in the list just fine.

Any suggestions would be appreciated,

Thanks,

Shannon

SCG

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Jan 19, 2002, 5:48:48 PM1/19/02
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How many fonts do you have installed on each machine?
SCG

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Your Name Here

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Jan 21, 2002, 12:59:46 PM1/21/02
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a lot, like hundreds. but less than half are postscript and those are the
ones I need to access via PageMaker.

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J. Costello

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Jan 22, 2002, 12:16:00 PM1/22/02
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Multiple master fonts are a pain to use... under certain conditions,
but that aside.

*Perhaps* you have too many fonts installed... though I've not run
into that problem since using Win 3.11 (horror story omitted).

And then again *perhaps* the fonts were not installed properly, but I
did not see any obvious error in the method you described

I would suggest that you install a copy of Adobe Type Manager Deluxe.
For one it makes installing fonts (PS and TTF) simple as pie. Second
you can then use it to "deactivate" some of those fonts on your
system. This is a very convenient program as it allows you to install
as many fonts as you want and then activate those you use regularly
and deactivate those that you do not.

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:59:46 -0500, "Your Name Here"
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>a lot, like hundreds. but less than half are postscript and those are the
>ones I need to access via PageMaker.
>

J. Costello

SCG

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Jan 23, 2002, 9:54:39 PM1/23/02
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Does that mean 200,300, 800?. If you have mre than 300 installed, that could
be the problem. PageMaker is very finicky about the number of fonts
installed.
SCG

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Your Name Here

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Jan 25, 2002, 4:35:01 PM1/25/02
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probably close to 1,000. yep, I'm a fontaholic. Our tech guy thinks
something has gotten corrupted, so next week my cpu will be wiped and
everything reinstalled. Think I'll go easier on the fonts AND get ATM
Deluxe, as someone else suggested.

btw, how do I put my name in the 'your name here' field? I'm using Outlook
Express and can't find anything in the menus. In case anybody really cares,
my name is Shannon.

Thanks.

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Your Name Here

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Thanks for the input. I'll see if my boss will spring for DELuxe.

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RSD99

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Jan 25, 2002, 6:59:18 PM1/25/02
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Re: "...

Our tech guy thinks
something has gotten corrupted, so next week my cpu will be wiped and
everything reinstalled.
..."

Probably **NOT** necessary ... he's just looking to put you out of business for a week or
so while he rebuilds your system.

Re: "...


probably close to 1,000. yep, I'm a fontaholic.

..."

There is your problem. You should probably have 100 - 200 permanently installed, and use a
type manager for the rest. ATM Deluxe has a good reputation.

For help with font problems, the alt.binaries.fonts (USENET newsgroup) FAQ has a very good
troubleshooting section.

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The abf FAQ (and a bunch of other FAQs) are
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alt.binaries.fonts FAQ
(Many thanks to James Goffin for his continuing work
in maintaining it)
http://www.abf.jamesgoffin.co.uk/
http://www.jgoffin.freeserve.co.uk/abf/faq.htm

How To ask Questions the Smart Way
[Excellent presentation ... a "must read."]
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

comp.fonts FAQ
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/fonts-faq/part1/
http://www.rz.go.dlr.de:8081/info/faqs/fonts/
http://www.ce.chalmers.se/staff/otel/misc/font-tests/docs/FAQ.com.fonts.txt

Adobe OpenType Q&A
http://www.adobe.com/type/opentype/qna.html

Microsoft Typography TrueType, OpenType and the font related FAQ
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/faq/faq.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/default.asp

Microsoft Type Glossary
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/glossary/content.htm

Pyrus FAQ page
http://www.pyrus.com/html/faq.html

TrueType Vs PostScript
http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/ttvst1.html
http://www.hardcovermedia.com/lab/Pages/Misc/ttvst1.htm
http://www.font.to/downloads/TT_PS_OT.pdf
http://www.truetype.demon.co.uk/articles/ttvst1.htm
http://www.truetype.demon.co.uk/ttandt1.htm

TrueType Information
http://www.truetype.demon.co.uk/

Font Names, prefixes, and suffixes
http://titan.glo.be/~gd33771/naming.html
http://titan.glo.be/~gd33771/suffix.html

Working with the Windows Fonts Folder
http://desktoppub.about.com/library/faq/bl_winfontsfolder.htm

The Scourge of Arial
[Helvetica versus Arial. Explodes the Microsoft myth that
"We gave you Arial ... so that's *all* you'll ever need!"]
http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html
http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html

Where to Find Helvetica
http://desktoppub.about.com/library/faq/bl_helvetica.htm

How to create the Circle P Copyright Symbol (and fonts that contain it)
http://desktoppub.about.com/library/faq/bl_circledp.htm

Pixel Font FAQ - Web Page Design for Designers
http://www.wpdfd.com/pffaq.htm

Pixel Font FAQ - Atomic Media
http://www.atomicmedia.net/am/1help.htmlx

Miscellaneous
http://www.rsub.com/typographic/
http://www.ideabook.com/typepale.htm
http://www.typography.org.uk/
http://counterspace.motivo.com/

And last, but "certainly not least:"
The voluminous reference source on virtually anything about fonts and
typography ... Luc Devroye's site at McGill University
http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/fonts.html

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Common Font Utilities:
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(1) Character Map is a part of Windows. On most versions of Windows, look
for CHARMAP.EXE in the Windows directory.

(2) Character Map Pro is available from many of the shareware download
sites. I believe that the developer has stopped developing this program, so
"get it while you can."

(3) CM32 is a small, fast utility that can show virtually any character on
any "code page." It can also be expanded to fit the full screen width! It is
also available from many of the shareware download sites, and from the
author at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/thomas_bigler/cm32.htm

(4) AllChars provides a quick, easy-to-remember way of creating accents like
é Ü ç î æ and special characters like f ² ? © £ ± ß ° 1/2 ¿ « » T " in most
Windows programs. AllChars v3.5 upwards supports macros: type a (short) name
and AllChars will replace it with a (long) text. AllChars is very easy and
intuitive in usage and it is possible to adapt it to your wishes. AllChars
is FREEWARE, and works with Windows 3.11 or Windows 95, 98, ME, NT 4.0 and
2000.

It uses easily remembered keystroke combinations to create most of the
special characters. For example for a cent sign ¢ you enter, in sequence,
Ctrl c / For the one-quarter character, you enter Ctrl 1 4 This is much
more mnemonic than trying to remember alt+0162 or alt+0188.

The original program from which this was derived ("Compose", written and
distributed by DEC) had a nice built-in editor so you could change the
combinations or create your own definition files for specific fonts. This
doesn't have the editor, but the definition file is a simple text file that
can be modified manually.

Specifically recommended by abf's Character.


Also: You can print out paper "character maps" and sample sheets using most
of the font utilities, such as Printer's Apprentice, Typograf, MyFonts,
etcetera. A few minutes spent at the usual "Shareware Sites," such as
NoNags, Tucows, SoftSeek, and so forth will probably result in several more.

Printer's Apprentice
http://www.loseyourmind.com/

Typograf
http://www.neuber.com/typograph/index.html

MyFonts by MyTools
http://www.mytools.com/
http://www.mytools.com/myfonts.html

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Font Identification and Recognition Sites
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The WhatTheFont page at MyFonts. Upload a sample image, and get an "educated
guess."
http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/

FontExpert is a typeface identification software. Based on a special
algorithm and a huge font database FontExpert is able to identify typefaces
from scanned documents.
http://www.fontexpert.de/
http://www.fontexpert.de/english.htm
On-Line ID Service
http://www.fontexpert.de/feforme.htm

Identifont®, the unique font identifier that enables you to identify a font
from a sample by answering a series of simple questions. It is ideal if you
want to match an existing typeface, or identify a typeface you have seen in
a publication. Identifont includes information about fonts from most of the
major type libraries, including Adobe, Agfa-Monotype, Berthold, Bitstream,
FontFont, ITC, Linotype, and P22.
http://www.identifont.com/

Free-Text Search
Typeface, trademark, designer, derivatives.
http://www.fonts.durge.org/

Mike Yanega, of Bowfin Printworks, has several pages of information that are
very useful
for font identification. They are

The "Bauhaus-style Font ID Guide" at
http://bowfinprintworks.com/BauhausFaces.html
shows complete fonts for nearly 200 geometric fonts, divided into 7 style
groups. Fonts are still being added as he finds new ones that fit these
styles.

The "Sans Serif Font ID Aid" at
http://bowfinprintworks.com/SansIDPage.html
provides a 2-key method for narrowing down Font ID choices for about 400
Sans Serif font families using just seven letters: a, e, g, G, M, R and y.
Eventually font samples will be linked to their names, in the final version
of this reference.

Mike's current project (started about the beginning of October 2001) is the
"Script Font ID Guide"
(http://bowfinprintworks.com/ScriptIDGuide.html)
and "Script Font Reference List" (in six alphabetic parts) starting at
http://bowfinprintworks.com/ListPages/ScriptListAB.html).

HTH

[Links checked, updated 10/26/2001]


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