Anyone seen this guy's scarey, but awesome 3D art?

[Robert Owens]

On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:20:08 +1200, "Kevman" <kev...@geocities.com>
wrote:

>Need some inspiration to get better in 3D?
>
>A friend from Holland pointed this site out - Right here in NZ too!
>
>Check it out - He uses a Mac and a 'variety of appplications' he tells me -
>I know Bryce is one, wonder what the rest are (StrataStudio? Lightwave?) -
>Whatever, check it out cause I was blown away... Excellent!
>
>http://www.iconoptix.co.nz/kano/

Fantastic work! Normally, if it says "Bryce," I would most
likely skip it (I know, that's pretty snobbish of me). However, based
on your recommendation, I went and checked out the site. The pics are
very well done!

Nothing (that I saw) on the web page hinted at what other
packages he used besides Bryce, and in fact the pages say that these
images were done in Bryce! No way!!!

Whatever packages he's using, he got excellent results from
them!


Robert Owens

[Atomic Skull]

>
> Fantastic work! Normally, if it says "Bryce," I would most
>likely skip it (I know, that's pretty snobbish of me). However, based
>on your recommendation, I went and checked out the site. The pics are
>very well done!
>
> Nothing (that I saw) on the web page hinted at what other
>packages he used besides Bryce, and in fact the pages say that these
>images were done in Bryce! No way!!!
>
> Whatever packages he's using, he got excellent results from
>them!
>
>
> Robert Owens
>

You have to keep in mind that this *is* Bryce though, you could train your
cat to use it and still get passable results..

-=Atomic Skull=-

See my 3-D anime characters page, http://www.ns.net/~Argus-1/index.htm

[Paul Oberlander]

Atomic Skull wrote:

> >
> > Fantastic work! Normally, if it says "Bryce," I would most
> >likely skip it (I know, that's pretty snobbish of me). However, based
> >on your recommendation, I went and checked out the site. The pics are
> >very well done!
> >
> > Nothing (that I saw) on the web page hinted at what other
> >packages he used besides Bryce, and in fact the pages say that these
> >images were done in Bryce! No way!!!
> >
> > Whatever packages he's using, he got excellent results from
> >them!
> >
> >
> > Robert Owens
> >
>
> You have to keep in mind that this *is* Bryce though, you could train your
> cat to use it and still get passable results..

These are not "passable." These images are excellent. This is amazingly well
conceived and expertly executed. It shows clearly that a great artist can do a
lot with limited tools.

I defy you to come up with something this good with LW or even Alias and
Renderman. I have not seen anything on the LW binaries group this good.

Paul

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[Jeremy Birn]

Atomic Skull wrote:
>
> You have to keep in mind that this *is* Bryce though, you could train your
> cat to use it and still get passable results..

That sounds like something you wrote without having visited the site. (&
Maybe you didn't know they change Bryce?)

I might have said the same thing if it were just landscapes or anything that
an old version of Bryce could automate, but saying "Made In Bryce" doesn't
necessarily mean "Chosen With Sliders" any more. The current Bryce version
_IS A 3D APPLICATION,_ where artists can design their own models and paint
their own textures and position lights, just like any competing 3D program. I
think some people are using other apps for the models, and other apps for the
3D paint, but they are still their own designs being rendered in Bryce.

As with any other widely-available 3D application, some talented artists have
picked it up and starting doing unique, creative work. Of course Bryce work
on the web is 99+% garbage just like lightwave work, but there is now at least
an option to create work that is totally your own design.

--
- Jeremy Birn - 3dRender.com - http://www.3dRender.com/
--

[Karin]

[comp.graphics.apps.lightwave]

Atomic Skull wrote:

>>
>> Fantastic work! Normally, if it says "Bryce," I would most
>>likely skip it (I know, that's pretty snobbish of me). However, based
>>on your recommendation, I went and checked out the site. The pics are
>>very well done!

Please post the URL again -- I seemed to have missed the original post
with it in there.

TIA

--
Karin (aka m@2) email: emato@gate-dot-net
Homepage: (still under construction)

[Jeremy Birn]

Karin wrote:
>
> Please post the URL again -- I seemed to have missed the original post
> with it in there.
>

http://www.iconoptix.co.nz/kano/inner.html

[Karin]

[comp.graphics.apps.lightwave]

Jeremy Birn wrote:

Thanks for the URL! All I can say is "Wow". Nice work and even more
impressive knowing it was done in Bryce!

/karin

[Robert Owens]

On 27 Jun 1998 19:26:58 GMT, Arg...@ns.net (Atomic Skull) wrote:

>>
>> Fantastic work! Normally, if it says "Bryce," I would most
>>likely skip it (I know, that's pretty snobbish of me). However, based
>>on your recommendation, I went and checked out the site. The pics are
>>very well done!

>

> You have to keep in mind that this *is* Bryce though, you could train your
>cat to use it and still get passable results..

I would normally agree with you, which is why I usually
don't bother checking out Bryce-created images. However, these pics
are certainly top-echelon material, whatever the package, and are
certainly worthy of attention!

If your cat could pull this stuff off with Bryce, then we
all need to hang it up and leave it to the cat. :-)

Robert Owens

[[._.]]

Don't forget, Bryce does have a pretty good toolset and is capable of some
very good work as this demonstrates. Nothing on his page is impossible to do
with Bryce and if you look at the Bryce books available, you'd see what I
mean. It's about lateral thinking and using the tools in a more adventurous
and experimental way.

Bryce has a bad rap because of all the instantly recognizable landscapes
people throw together without any imagination. It's probably a lot more
powerful than many people realize (me included until I saw the books).
Buried under that cheesy "landscape generator" moniker, it has a 3d modeler
of surprising power. I still wouldn't recommend it over a "proper" 3d
program for general use, but it does show what limited tools can do in the
right hands.

No more excuses along the lines of "if only I had....." Anyone with LW, Max,
Si, PA, MAYA etc, already *do* have.
--

[._.]

Robert Owens wrote in message <3594f162...@news.sccoast.net>...

>On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:20:08 +1200, "Kevman" <kev...@geocities.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Need some inspiration to get better in 3D?
>>
>>A friend from Holland pointed this site out - Right here in NZ too!
>>
>>Check it out - He uses a Mac and a 'variety of appplications' he tells
me -
>>I know Bryce is one, wonder what the rest are (StrataStudio?
Lightwave?) -
>>Whatever, check it out cause I was blown away... Excellent!
>>
>>http://www.iconoptix.co.nz/kano/
>

> Fantastic work! Normally, if it says "Bryce," I would most
>likely skip it (I know, that's pretty snobbish of me). However, based
>on your recommendation, I went and checked out the site. The pics are
>very well done!
>

[stephen gilbert]

hi
comment:
"Owning a pencil doesn't make you an artist"

maybe you should fire up the demo of bryce3d before you write it off.
I've seen your stuff and think you are very talented but don't knock
others who can't afford expensive pencils!
stee+catz

Atomic Skull wrote:
>
> >
> > Fantastic work! Normally, if it says "Bryce," I would most
> >likely skip it (I know, that's pretty snobbish of me). However, based
> >on your recommendation, I went and checked out the site. The pics are
> >very well done!
> >
> > Nothing (that I saw) on the web page hinted at what other
> >packages he used besides Bryce, and in fact the pages say that these
> >images were done in Bryce! No way!!!
> >
> > Whatever packages he's using, he got excellent results from
> >them!
> >
> >
> > Robert Owens
> >
>

> You have to keep in mind that this *is* Bryce though, you could train your
> cat to use it and still get passable results..
>

[Atomic Skull]

In article <35956EE0...@primenet.com>, jb...@primenet.com says...

>
>Atomic Skull wrote:
>>
>> You have to keep in mind that this *is* Bryce though, you could train your
>> cat to use it and still get passable results..
>

>That sounds like something you wrote without having visited the site. (&
>Maybe you didn't know they change Bryce?)
>

Oh, it *is* impressive, but it's offset a bit by the fact that it's Bryce..

>I might have said the same thing if it were just landscapes or anything that
>an old version of Bryce could automate, but saying "Made In Bryce" doesn't
>necessarily mean "Chosen With Sliders" any more. The current Bryce version
>_IS A 3D APPLICATION,_ where artists can design their own models and paint
>their own textures and position lights, just like any competing 3D program. I
>think some people are using other apps for the models, and other apps for the
>3D paint, but they are still their own designs being rendered in Bryce.

Bryce "will have arrived" when it starts being used in professional film and
TV F/X.. Even the latest version of Ray Dream is a pretty nice program.. But
neither is suited to real production work.

--
-=Atomic Skull=-

See my 3-D anime character page, www.ns.net/~Argus-1

[Bill Hemenway]

Keep in mind also that Bryce3D does not have a modeler like Lightwave. This
guy used grayscale bitmaps and then used the terrain editor in Bryce to make
his models. I tried his technique and it ain't easy to achieve the results
he did.