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bodegabay

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Apr 6, 2001, 7:37:47 AM4/6/01
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can anyone recommend a book with nice both simple and complex diagrams/
pictures etc of the human body - where the muscles are, where bones pop out
etc..

TIA

Thomas Milde

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Apr 6, 2001, 8:20:12 AM4/6/01
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Hi.

There is one book called "The Human Figure in Motion" by Eadweard Muybridge.
It has lots of picture-series about moving humans. This might help a bit.
Else go into the arts-section of any good bookstore and look for books about
nude-painting ("Akt-Zeichnen" in german), they show you each bone and muscle
in great detail.

I hope this helps, have fun,
Thomas

Jacky

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Apr 6, 2001, 8:22:17 AM4/6/01
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page one 等大書店都有, 有 D 仲係真人解剖~
唔敢買返屋企 ^^'

Simon Foster

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Apr 6, 2001, 8:33:51 AM4/6/01
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If you need muscle definition then why not take a look at the various muscle
mags at your local newsagency? They are cheaper than a book and the people
in are going to great lengths to show their muscle definition. They're great
mags for this type of thing. I often spend hours at the newsagents browsing
through them, comparing pictures, lobbying the publishers for a scratch n'
sniff edition, asking passing guys which one is their favourite, getting
thrown out by burly brute security guards. An enthralling afternoon for one
and all.

Simon Foster


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Paddy

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Apr 6, 2001, 8:34:51 AM4/6/01
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You're disturbing.

;-)

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Geoff

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Apr 6, 2001, 11:26:06 AM4/6/01
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Simon, a soulmate at last....I thought I was the only one that liked
musclemags.

Seriously though, if you want to get hold of pictures of human anatomy and
muscle structures etc, a way of doing it for free without getting beaten up
is to look on the web. Personally, I haven't looked for this sort of thing
(honest) but I will eat my hat if you can't find shedloads of stuff to do
with body building and the human body.

Luck

Geoff

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Fuser

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Apr 6, 2001, 11:21:21 AM4/6/01
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I suggest you check out the George B. Bridgman books. They are pretty old
and have no photos- only drawings. But I think they fit your criteria very
well. The two that I would look at first would be Constructive Anatomy and
The Human Machine. I also have his Life Drawing and Book or 100 Hands. Oh,
yeah- They were $4.95 each!!! This was almost 10yrs ago but they should
still be pretty cheap.

Another one to check out would be Dynamic Anatomy by Burne Hogarth. Some
people don't like his stuff, but it is worth a look $18.95 cover price.

Good Luck =]
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Glenn Pechacek

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Apr 6, 2001, 12:24:17 PM4/6/01
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lol

Glenn

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Paddy

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Apr 6, 2001, 12:29:06 PM4/6/01
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We try to use that excuse as well but its a disciplinary offence here ... ;-)

Do a search for the Loomis Project. I've not got an address but it may help.

Will

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Apr 6, 2001, 11:58:19 AM4/6/01
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I would recommend "Anatomy: A complete guide for artists" by Joseph Sheppard

Will

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Paddy

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Apr 6, 2001, 1:35:08 PM4/6/01
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http://www.antsin3d.com/loomis/

Its a drawing tutorial book but it may help

JD

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Apr 6, 2001, 1:37:55 PM4/6/01
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Oops, Sorry for the personal reply Will, wrong button. :-)

I was just saying:

Another great one is 'Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist' by Peck.

Cheers,
jd

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Athanasia Steele

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Apr 6, 2001, 1:51:13 PM4/6/01
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On 06 Apr 2001 11:37:47 GMT, skanky...@aol.combodegaba (bodegabay)
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>can anyone recommend a book with nice both simple and complex diagrams/
>pictures etc of the human body - where the muscles are, where bones pop out
>etc..

Jack Hamm's _Drawing the Head and Figure._ Very handy.


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Jimbo

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Apr 6, 2001, 3:01:49 PM4/6/01
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The single most awsome ref. source for me in building muscle flexing models
have been Picture Dictionaries (usually also available on CD) kinda in line
with the "How things work" type of stuff.

There are a truck load of these things. For me the skin-ripped-off-fiber-
exposed (and named) ills. and scanner combo has produced quality levels
way above the usual "good" hu-mans I seen elsewhere.

Here's some refs. I got off amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789428741/qid=986581240/sr=1-10/ref=sc_b_11/102-2019581-6893722

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789461110/ref=pd_sbs_b_1/102-2019581-6893722

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789435128/qid=986582726/sr=1-138/ref=sc_b_14/102-2019581-6893722


Not really human but same idea:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1879431173/ref=sim_books/102-2019581-6893722

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789402394/ref=sim_books/102-2019581-6893722


I can't seem to find the one I'm using right now and the Amazon search
didn't turn it up either but the ones listed here are very similar.

Anyway, the one I have is side, front, and back views of almost every
muscle (and whole man & woman) with the epidermal layers removed.


sgm

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Apr 6, 2001, 4:13:24 PM4/6/01
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http://www.bartleby.com/107/

Anatomy of the Human Body
Henry Gray

"The Bartleby.com edition of Gray's Anatomy of the Human Body features 1,247
vibrant engravings-many in color-from the classic 1918 publication, as well
as a subject index with 13,000 entries ranging from the Antrum of Highmore
to the Zonule of Zinn"

very good reference site


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adrian thompson

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Apr 6, 2001, 6:55:10 PM4/6/01
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human anatomy for artist
isbn 3829005733

quality book with great images and hardback too


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Eric C.

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Apr 7, 2001, 2:57:55 PM4/7/01
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Jimbo wrote:

> There are a truck load of these things. For me the skin-ripped-off-fiber-
> exposed (and named) ills. and scanner combo has produced quality levels
> way above the usual "good" hu-mans I seen elsewhere.
>

How is this level of detail utilized when modeling? Seriously: I've never had to model characters, and
would really like to know. Thanks.


Jimbo

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Apr 8, 2001, 3:04:04 AM4/8/01
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"Eric C." <je...@oz.net> wrote in message news:9annvj$bk4$0...@216.39.143.17...

> Jimbo wrote:
>
> > There are a truck load of these things. For me the skin-ripped-off-fiber-
> > exposed (and named) ills. and scanner combo has produced quality levels
> > way above the usual "good" hu-mans I've seen elsewhere.

> >
>
> How is this level of detail utilized when modeling? Seriously:
> I've never had to model characters, and would really like to know.
> Thanks.
>

Sure no prob.

Once scanned I use the maps both in the BG while modeling and as
fitted color maps in layout & modeler.

For modeling it really helps me to get the muscle tone just so.
Seeing how the muscles wrap around each other I can define (or not)
the mesh with the apropriate lumps, bumps, and curves to get a little
extra definition over the usual techniques. Think of the tummy muscels
that have become pretty much a standard ever since Motion Man v1.0

In layout I use the maps for both tortion points (motion incurring
bone placement) and I can see right where to place bones that jiggle
the meat for that extra level of motion detail that causes one to
believe they are viewing a live subject in a real world environment.

After the modeling and motions are complete I can use the same maps
and go in and apply them (modified) as a bump map. Obviously it's
different for each char. type; If the specs call for a maniac on
steroids apply where ever you see skin. Even the face especailly
around the lower jaws and neck. If it's a 40 year old animater
who sits at his desk most of the day O ;-) then maybe not at
all or env. them in just around the neck to show stress or extream
anger. Like if the scene had him reading one of Arts threads hehe...

If the mesh is super fine the same thing can be done with the
displacement channel with some mods to the BMs.

For me the ADDITION of these muscle maps have made a huge difference
in not only how I construct a char. but the level of realism possible.

At school I even make my students learn the names of some of the major
muscles and regions. In japanese of coarse. B-)


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