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Fred A. Miller

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Sep 27, 2004, 2:50:35 PM9/27/04
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"There is now a solution to this problem in the form of a new open standard
from Adobe. It is called Digital Negative and has just been introduced at the
Photokina trade show in Germany. In addition to an open standard raw file
format, which Adobe is making available freely to both camera makers as well
as other software publishers, Adobe has now made available a free universal
raw file conversion program. It is available for both Windows PCs and Macs,
and can be downloaded without charge from the Adobe web site."

Very interesting article. Is gimp going to "adopt" or include this new format?

Fred

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/dng.shtml

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Michael Schumacher

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Sep 27, 2004, 4:11:18 PM9/27/04
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"Fred A. Miller" <fmi...@twcny.rr.com> writes:

> Very interesting article. Is gimp going to "adopt" or include this
> new format?

This is the wrong attitude :)
Anyone can write a plug-in for this format (and other formats) and
make it available to other users.

So, instead of sitting back and waiting for an adoption, start your
text editor and code it. Useful ressources for GIMP developers,
inluding a plug-in template with complete autoconf/automake setup and
i18n support, are located at http://developer.gimp.org

HTH,
Michael

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Fred A. Miller

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Sep 27, 2004, 7:09:50 PM9/27/04
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Michael Schumacher wrote:

> "Fred A. Miller" <fmi...@twcny.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Very interesting article. Is gimp going to "adopt" or include this
>> new format?
>
> This is the wrong attitude :)
> Anyone can write a plug-in for this format (and other formats) and
> make it available to other users.
>
> So, instead of sitting back and waiting for an adoption, start your
> text editor and code it. Useful ressources for GIMP developers,
> inluding a plug-in template with complete autoconf/automake setup and
> i18n support, are located at http://developer.gimp.org

UNfortunately, I don't write code. I posted this for informational content, in
hopes that those who work on Gimp would be aware of an open standard from
Adobe.

Fred

Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

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Sep 28, 2004, 2:01:17 PM9/28/04
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In <%hZ5d.24134$yg....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Fred A. Miller wrote:

> "There is now a solution to this problem in the form of a new open standard
> from Adobe. It is called Digital Negative and has just been introduced at the
> Photokina trade show in Germany. In addition to an open standard raw file
> format, which Adobe is making available freely to both camera makers as well
> as other software publishers, Adobe has now made available a free universal
> raw file conversion program. It is available for both Windows PCs and Macs,
> and can be downloaded without charge from the Adobe web site."
>
> Very interesting article. Is gimp going to "adopt" or include this new format?

I just skimmed through the specs from Adobe and I'm not very impressed.
It's yet another TIFF sub-format which does *not* store the raw camera
stuff but the usual pixels. Either uncompressed as RGB or as lossless JPG
-> YUV. The only "plus" is the definition of some meta information beyond
EXIF. But the TIFF container is so ugly...

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

Lutz Jacob

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Sep 28, 2004, 5:10:56 PM9/28/04
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Am Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:01:17 +0200 schrieb Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch:

> I just skimmed through the specs from Adobe and I'm not very impressed.
> It's yet another TIFF sub-format which does *not* store the raw camera
> stuff but the usual pixels. Either uncompressed as RGB or as lossless JPG

I read:
DNG enables file storage either in mosaic (CFA) form or in demosaiced form.
Generally, a mosaiced file is preferred because it represents the original
data the sensor captured and enables maximum conversion flexibility. It is
also smaller than a demosaiced file. In some instances, however, saving a
demosaiced file can improve compatibility, particularly if the camera
sensor contains an unusual mosaic pattern that all converters do not
support.

ciao
Lutz

Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

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Sep 29, 2004, 12:20:29 PM9/29/04
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Okay I stand corrected -- I just read to the compression section which
said "uncomressed or lossless JPG".

Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

Dirk Hartmann

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Sep 30, 2004, 7:34:02 PM9/30/04
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Fred A. Miller wrote:

> "There is now a solution to this problem in the form of a new open
> standard from Adobe. It is called Digital Negative and has just been
> introduced at the Photokina trade show in Germany. In addition to an open
> standard raw file format, which Adobe is making available freely to both
> camera makers as well as other software publishers, Adobe has now made
> available a free universal raw file conversion program. It is available
> for both Windows PCs and Macs, and can be downloaded without charge from
> the Adobe web site."
>
> Very interesting article. Is gimp going to "adopt" or include this new
> format?
>
> Fred
>
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/dng.shtml
>

I recently talked to D. Coffin which wrote dcraw. It's a common library for
Gimp and many other programs for reading raw files. He tols me that he will
take into consideration DNG. But DNG won't be open source itself!
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