Gimp, why do we choose it?
Patriot
I have a copy of it and have looked it over but not sure why I would choose
it over PSP or even MS Picture-It for simple projects.
I am into digital photography and like to rearrange some of the components
in a photo occaisionally.
Am not putting it down but need a good reason to learn yet another computer
program.
Thanks
Patriot
Melodie de l'Epine
user-group that will help me out, quickly. Because it's NOT Microsoft
dependant.
Melodie
Patriot a écrit :
Orrin
Unix/Linux operating systems and is included in many of the distributions
along with the powerful ImageMagik image manipulation routines.
Orrin - www.orrin.org/
Linux by SuSE... a world without Windows
Patriot <Patri...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<Xns95B0C47F65...@216.148.227.77>...
damon
> Am not putting it down but need a good reason to learn yet another computer
> program.
If what you have is working for you, then there isn't a need to learn
GIMP.
Unlike you, I started with Linux and found the GIMP. The GIMP has met
my needs so I don't have a reason to learn or buy Photoshop, or to use
any of the broken crapware that gets bundled with cameras and scanners
these days.
If you're happy with what you're running today, then keep running it.
If you like learning new things, and you like working with images, it's
hard to top the GIMP for flexibility, community support, and price. If
you learn it now, then when you have to consider buying a license for
one of those other programs, you'll surely think twice before plunking
down $600 or whatever they charge for Photoshop these days.
-- Damon
Phuoc
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:55:46 -0500, damon
<damon...@alumni.DONTSPAM.umass.edu> wrote:
> Patriot wrote:
>
> If you're happy with what you're running today, then keep running it. If
> you like learning new things, and you like working with images, it's
> hard to top the GIMP for flexibility, community support, and price. If
> you learn it now, then when you have to consider buying a license for
> one of those other programs, you'll surely think twice before plunking
> down $600 or whatever they charge for Photoshop these days.
I agree with that. You can't find any FREE tool more powerful than GIMP
( I only speak for Windows, don't know about Linux(
I decided for GIMP when I was looking for more flexible image processing
tool. Although I'm not using Linux it always leaves a door open, so that I
can do the same thing without Microsoft anytime.
Phuoc Can HUA
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Branko Collin
03:18:26 GMT:
If you don't have a reason to use it now, it is unlikely that we will
come up with a use that will lure you over to our side. Either the
program works for you, or it doesn't.
If you want to find out whether there are uses that you hadn't
considered, and that will slash your editing time, may I suggest you
read a couple of chapters of Grokking the GIMP. It is available from
any good bookstore, and for free on the web at
<http://gug.sunsite.dk/books.php>.
The book deals with GIMP 1.2., and is an excellent general
introduction to photo editing.
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stoomvaartlijnen die als draden over de zeeën zijn getrokken,
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Patriot
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I wish to say thanks to all who gave their opinions. I will take a closer
look at this program and give it an honest try.
Patriot
sylmy
yes, it's true, Gimp is very powerful, but I do reckon sometimes there are
tools missing compared to other free softwares. Just an example : My
girlfriend is fan of drawing in general & on computer currently. She
discovered an on-line soft named Shi Painter Pro. (see on
http://e-kaki.e-jori.com) . On this software, there is a tool named "water
2" which is a mix between the slur (I'm not sure of the english term =>
finger icon) and the airbrush => you can apply a color and mix it with the
colorS under.
*****
I proposed my girfriend to use Gimp instead of this remote tool (while you
work on-line you have layers enabled, but once saved on your hard drive, the
layers are squeezed to only one picture). I searched the equivalent of this
tool on Gimp 2 (for windows), BUT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE !
You can slur, you can slur, but it is not possible to do it the same time !
The shading ? it doesnt work the same... the question is not to apply
several colors alternatively but to mix them and aplpying another in the
same time.
So, my opinion is that Gimp is a very powerful tool, I enjoy using it, but
sometimes there are some other free softwares which are most efficient or
provides features you can't find on Gimp.
Sylvain, sylvain.r...@free.fr
sylmy
> You can slur, you can put color, but it is not possible to do it the same
time !
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
>> Pushing pixels around is possible with the smudge tool--but that tool
>> does not add new colors by and of itself. A realistic paint brush
>> would do both.
>
> EXACTLY ! And I think this realistic paint brush.is really missing in such a
> powerful tool as the Gimp... Maybe some of you will tell me that I can use
> or write a Script-fu or use a filter, but it can not replace the direct use
> a of tool.
>
> what a shame !
>
> I haven't heard about a plugin that would add that realistic brush I need. I
> you have some information, do not hesitate to contact me, I promise I will
> apologize for my critics towards Gimp ;-)
No plugin, just a prototype and quite inactive developement but maybe
worth a try:
http://www.levien.com/gimp/wetdream.html
Ciao,
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
sylmy
> I didn't understand your explanation of the tool - perhaps you
> could open a bug report in Bugzilla with a screenshot of the
> behaviour you mention?
sorry, our misunderstanding is due to the mistake I did in my first post.
There is no bug at all, it's just that the water color is missing (Bronko
Collin post of this thread explains perfectly well the tool I need)
> Tu habites à Lyon?
ouaip's ms'ieur! toi aussi?
Sylvain
sylmy
> does not add new colors by and of itself. A realistic paint brush
> would do both.
EXACTLY ! And I think this realistic paint brush.is really missing in such a
powerful tool as the Gimp... Maybe some of you will tell me that I can use
or write a Script-fu or use a filter, but it can not replace the direct use
a of tool.
what a shame !
I haven't heard about a plugin that would add that realistic brush I need. I
you have some information, do not hesitate to contact me, I promise I will
apologize for my critics towards Gimp ;-)
that's all folks, bye!
Branko Collin
Dec 2004 20:40:35 GMT:
>On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 20:11:15 +0100, sylmy said:
>> You can slur, you can slur, but it is not possible to do it the same time !
>> The shading ? it doesnt work the same... the question is not to apply
>> several colors alternatively but to mix them and aplpying another in the
>> same time.
>
>I didn't understand your explanation of the tool - perhaps you
>could open a bug report in Bugzilla with a screenshot of the
>behaviour you mention? (make the colours different enough to make
>the behaviour obvious if possible - FG Blue with a red and green
>checkerboard in the layer or something).
If you paint on a canvas, you push paint around. And if you paint with
water color, you also mix new with old paint.
Pushing pixels around is possible with the smudge tool--but that tool
does not add new colors by and of itself. A realistic paint brush
would do both.
--
Branko Collin
BTW, the GIMP is a photo manipulation program, not a drawing or
painting tool. There are probably good uses in a photo editor for any
of the tools from drawing and painting programs, but such tools
probably aren't enough of a priority.
Dave Neary
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 20:11:15 +0100, sylmy said:
> You can slur, you can slur, but it is not possible to do it the same time !
> The shading ? it doesnt work the same... the question is not to apply
> several colors alternatively but to mix them and aplpying another in the
> same time.
I didn't understand your explanation of the tool - perhaps you
could open a bug report in Bugzilla with a screenshot of the
behaviour you mention? (make the colours different enough to make
the behaviour obvious if possible - FG Blue with a red and green
checkerboard in the layer or something).
Merci,
Dave.
PS:
> Sylvain, sylvain.r...@free.fr
Tu habites à Lyon?
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E-Mail: bolsh at gimp dot org
Work e-mail: d dot neary at phenix dot fr
CV: http://dneary.free.fr/CV/
Dave Neary
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:44:20 +0100, sylmy said:
>> I didn't understand your explanation of the tool - perhaps you
>> could open a bug report in Bugzilla with a screenshot of the
>> behaviour you mention?
>
> sorry, our misunderstanding is due to the mistake I did in my first post.
> There is no bug at all, it's just that the water color is missing (Bronko
> Collin post of this thread explains perfectly well the tool I need)
OK. To be clear, we use bugzilla to track not just bugs, but also
feature enhancements like this one.
It would be really helpful if you could create a bugzilla entry
for it, since that way it's in the system and will probably get
looked at some day :)
>> Tu habites à Lyon?
>
> ouaip's ms'ieur! toi aussi?
Sisi. Derriere la Part Dieu dans le 3eme.
A+,
Dave.
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Dave Neary <real.addre...@thisoneis.invalid> wrote in message news:<slrncr3ihj.46l.re...@bolsh.free.fr>...
Sundar
I am a newbie too. I checked your requirements for layers & slur.
Both are possible in Gimp 2.x
sylmy wrote:
>>I agree with that. You can't find any FREE tool more powerful than GIMP
>
>
> yes, it's true, Gimp is very powerful, but I do reckon sometimes there are
> tools missing compared to other free softwares. Just an example : My
> girlfriend is fan of drawing in general & on computer currently. She
> discovered an on-line soft named Shi Painter Pro. (see on
> http://e-kaki.e-jori.com) . On this software, there is a tool named "water
> 2" which is a mix between the slur (I'm not sure of the english term =>
> finger icon) and the airbrush => you can apply a color and mix it with the
> colorS under.
>
> *****
>
> I proposed my girfriend to use Gimp instead of this remote tool (while you
> work on-line you have layers enabled, but once saved on your hard drive, the
> layers are squeezed to only one picture). I searched the equivalent of this
> tool on Gimp 2 (for windows), BUT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE !
You can save the whole working picture with layers in .xcf format.
This is the native GIMP format, and it keeps the layers and whatever
you work on using Gimp. When you need the final image (e.g. jpg) you can
flatten the image and save it in .jpg.
> You can slur, you can slur, but it is not possible to do it the same time !
> The shading ? it doesnt work the same... the question is not to apply
> several colors alternatively but to mix them and aplpying another in the
> same time.
Unlike native artist end-up mixing the new color with the wet existing
color below, and find the outcome only after mixing test, Graphics
program allows you to choose the exact color you need. So you no need
todo the mixing test or learn by trail and error.
If this is not appealing you and you like to behave like a natural
artist, Gimp layers can help you. I explain how to do below:
Take a picture, and go to the layers windown ( Control + L).
You can create a another layer on top of the bottom layers.
Normally this layer is created with "Normal mode". You can
change the mode with "Mulitiply" which means the bottom color
and top color will be multiplied to provide you another color.
Also, there are more modes "Substract", "divide" etc.
If you test with them you will go gaga over the resulting colors.
The paint brush also has pressure function. If you keep the brush
in a place the color will be intensified ( or more saturated ).
> So, my opinion is that Gimp is a very powerful tool, I enjoy using it, but
> sometimes there are some other free softwares which are most efficient or
> provides features you can't find on Gimp.
Hope these features will bring your interest back to GIMP.
eNJOY.
-Sundar