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New comer's simple question: how to paste a picture created in MS word to GIMP?

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Jing

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Sep 28, 2006, 3:20:40 PM9/28/06
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Hi, all,
Apologize for my English first, since I am not a native speaker.

I am just starting to use GIMP and not familiar with it at all.
And I need to input all kinds of Greek characters and formulas into the
graph.
So I decide to create those objects in MSword, save them whole as a
picture.
Then convert the picture into a jpg format.
The problem come with the save step.
I can do the "copy" from the *.doc -> "paste"->"save as a *.jpg" in
painting, the simple program of windows.
But the problem is the resolution is extremely low and the *.jpg is
very ugly.

I want to use GIMP instead of win's painting.
However, I cannot paste the picture copied from *.doc into the GIMP.

The detail is I copy a picture in *.doc, then, in GIMP, click
"edit"->"paste" (the paste option is not gray, so it means it can
detect the copied object), no picture appears on the "canvas".

Thanks a lot for your help!

I am in a rush to prepare those graphs and waiting online.

Thanks,
Jing

Michael Soibelman

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Sep 28, 2006, 8:45:00 PM9/28/06
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Jing wrote:

As I'm not using Windows I can only offer a suggestion. Why not create the
characters and formulas or whatever in Word first but use as large a font
size as possible while making sure it still looks good in Word. Now the
tricky part. Take a screenshot !! Save the screen shot as an image format
Gimp likes. Now import the screen shot you took. Since you used Word you
should have a nice white background with black fonts of your formula or
whatever. Just crop the part you want and use that...


Jing

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Sep 28, 2006, 9:20:01 PM9/28/06
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Thanks for your reply, Michael.
I have tried the screenshot and then paste it into the GIMP, it works!

Though the resolution is more or less the same as you save it as a
*.jpg in painting, then open by GIMP, this screenshot works faster.

Photoshop could give a better resolution but then we don't need GIMP.

Hope someone can steer us in the right direction since we would like to
stick to GIMP.

regards,
Jing

Michael Soibelman

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Sep 28, 2006, 10:08:15 PM9/28/06
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Jing wrote:

> Thanks for your reply, Michael.
> I have tried the screenshot and then paste it into the GIMP, it works!
>
> Though the resolution is more or less the same as you save it as a
> *.jpg in painting, then open by GIMP, this screenshot works faster.
>
> Photoshop could give a better resolution but then we don't need GIMP.
>
> Hope someone can steer us in the right direction since we would like to
> stick to GIMP.

>> format


>> Gimp likes. Now import the screen shot you took. Since you used Word
>> you should have a nice white background with black fonts of your formula
>> or
>> whatever. Just crop the part you want and use that...

----------------------------snippedy-snip-snip---------------------

But wait, here's an even better idea. I just ate dinner and thought about
what it is you're trying to do. I've come up with a better..no, way better
solution. And you can, should, probably will do it. It involves yet one
more open source solution on your path to leaving Microsoft...

Download and install OpenOffice. Use OpenOffice Draw. Insert 'formula'.
Now you can insert a formula. Or you can insert Text. Or whatever you want
including a chart... When you have what you want save it as an 'eps'
file.. Next import this into Gimp. You probably want to select
antialiasing for bothtext and graphics when you import the file...

Now you can do whatever you want to do in Gimp...

I've done this and I have a nice formula with a integral over a closed path:

cos(3x) - sin(3y^3) dx

Believe me it looks a lot better in mathematical notation !!!

Just give this a try. For what you are doing it works very well. If you
don't already have Open Office get it here:

http://download.openohttp://download.openoffice.org/2.0.3/index.html?focus=download

Click on the Windows link.

Once you get used to using this great application and Gimp you are ready to
try Linux... Good luck.

Michael Soibelman

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Sep 29, 2006, 1:39:09 AM9/29/06
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--------------snip-snippedy-snip---------------------------------

> Just give this a try. For what you are doing it works very well. If you
> don't already have Open Office get it here:
>
>
http://download.openohttp://download.openoffice.org/2.0.3/index.html?focus=download
>
> Click on the Windows link.
>
> Once you get used to using this great application and Gimp you are ready
> to
> try Linux... Good luck.

Jing, I've now been playing with the previously mentioned method for a few
hours and boy oh boy, man oh man, what a great idea that was !! Lots of
fun and great looking formulae, Greek characters, etc...

Using OpenOffice Draw you can insert formula and special characters using
the 'insert formula -> catalog' function.... This includes Greek and
Special which includes such things as Omega and Infinity. Clicking on the
characters brings them up in Draw again. Right click and select 'Position
and Size', deselect 'protect size' and resize the frame larger. Now export
as eps. Import to Gimp using file -> open and choose antialiasing. Go
from there...

Oh, so much fun. And it's all FREE software. You can't go wrong. I used
several Gimp plugins including one I recently added called 3D extrusion or
something like that. I think that was in the Script-Fu category at the
Gimp plugin repository...

More fun, more fun, more fun...... :-)

Animesh K

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Sep 29, 2006, 3:22:09 PM9/29/06
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Why not use latex, dvipdfm, and image capture in the adobe 7.0 free
reader? (Bonus: You get beautifully spaced math and Greek fonts in latex).

I use the above procedure and Adobe reader allows me to capture formulas
up to 1600% zoom.

Best,
A

PS: If you are desperate to get something scalable, import the image in
inkscape and trace-path on bitmap.

Jing

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Oct 1, 2006, 12:17:14 AM10/1/06
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Thanks a lot, guys.
I will try open office when my time schedual allows.

I also tried Animesh's method:
It works just fine normally.

Though, my problem is a little delicated:
The picuture object I create in MS word is a combination of the objects
drawing by the autoshape option in MS word, the text boxs including
Greek letters, and a plot copied from matlab.
I use group to combine all these objects into one "picture object",
which cannot be paste into GIMP.
The reason is the "picture object", (PO), contains textbox!
The textbox prevents the PO be wrapped as "in line with text" (right
click the PO, Format Object -> layout -> wrapping style),
but only the "in line with text" wrapping style can make the PO be
identified by GIMP.

So, that's the problem.

Hope the next version GIMP can fix it!
thanks for all your help!

regards,
Jing

ps: should I report this problem to the develop team of GIMP?

Per Larsen

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Oct 1, 2006, 8:02:11 PM10/1/06
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On 29.09.2006 04:08, Michael Soibelman typed the following::

> ----------------------------snippedy-snip-snip---------------------
>
> But wait, here's an even better idea. I just ate dinner and thought about
> what it is you're trying to do. I've come up with a better..no, way better
> solution. And you can, should, probably will do it. It involves yet one
> more open source solution on your path to leaving Microsoft...
>
> Download and install OpenOffice. Use OpenOffice Draw. Insert 'formula'.
> Now you can insert a formula. Or you can insert Text. Or whatever you want
> including a chart... When you have what you want save it as an 'eps'
> file.. Next import this into Gimp. You probably want to select
> antialiasing for bothtext and graphics when you import the file...


While I second the idea of open software broadening the path to leaving
Microsoft, I still think it would be fail to mention that in MS Word you
will find an Equation selection in the Insert->Object menu. In Word 97
it is called "Microsoft Equation 3.0".

I don't know how far you'll get solving the OP's problems (and I haven't
been using it since the days of Word 6.0), but it surely may be used to
write symbols and greek letters.

Regards
PerL

Animesh K

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Oct 1, 2006, 11:45:31 PM10/1/06
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Jing wrote:
> Thanks a lot, guys.
> I will try open office when my time schedual allows.
>
> I also tried Animesh's method:
> It works just fine normally.
>
> Though, my problem is a little delicated:
> The picuture object I create in MS word is a combination of the objects
> drawing by the autoshape option in MS word, the text boxs including
> Greek letters, and a plot copied from matlab.
> I use group to combine all these objects into one "picture object",
> which cannot be paste into GIMP.
> The reason is the "picture object", (PO), contains textbox!
> The textbox prevents the PO be wrapped as "in line with text" (right
> click the PO, Format Object -> layout -> wrapping style),
> but only the "in line with text" wrapping style can make the PO be
> identified by GIMP.
>
> So, that's the problem.
>
> Hope the next version GIMP can fix it!
> thanks for all your help!
>
> regards,
> Jing
>

You should bottom-post for better replies :)

You may want to try Inkscape if you want figures with equations. (the
procedure is a bit long, sadly). I save equation as a picture (png) and
then import and trace it using Trace Bitmap option in Inkscape.

You can also trace MS Objects (if they are exported as Pngs).

HTH,
Animesh

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