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use...@jc-newsremovecapitals.com

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Apr 16, 2004, 1:42:54 PM4/16/04
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I'm migrating here and there from an older version of Paint Shop Pro. This
program has a tool, called the "color replacer", which acts like a brush but
paints over only pixels which match (or are close to) the background color.
I can't seem to find this functionality in GIMP 2.0. I know that I can
usually achieve the same basic functionality by using selections and
filters, but I think that I will certainly need to have something that works
freehand style.

Can the properties of the regular brush tool be modified to only work on
pixels of certain colors, or am I missing something totally obvious and the
tool happens to be right in front of me?

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Fri13

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Apr 16, 2004, 2:08:40 PM4/16/04
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use...@jc-newsREMOVECAPITALS.com wrote:

> Can the properties of the regular brush tool be modified to only work on
> pixels of certain colors, or am I missing something totally obvious and
> the tool happens to be right in front of me?


First select area what you like to edit.

then try this right click > filters > color(s) > map > colormap rotation

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Branko Collin

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Apr 16, 2004, 4:05:22 PM4/16/04
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use...@jc-newsREMOVECAPITALS.com, you wrote on Fri, 16 Apr 2004
17:42:54 GMT:

What you could try is do a Select by Colour, than paint over the
selected pixels.

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Mark Adams

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Apr 17, 2004, 12:29:14 PM4/17/04
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Try selecting your color then see if you have the Filter Pack under
Image->Colors. Check the "Hue" box and then click on the example
thumbnails to change the colors.

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daeron

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May 2, 2004, 1:14:18 AM5/2/04
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Mark Adams wrote:
> Try selecting your color then see if you have the Filter Pack
> under
> Image->Colors. Check the "Hue" box and then click on the
> example thumbnails to change the colors.
>
No, you don't understand what he means. Paintshop-Pro was a
crapy piece of junk that came out in competition to an
independant product called Embellish
(free download at dadaware.com if it's still there, I know I
produced the first multimedia advertisement for a magazine
CD-rom in Australia for and using Embellish. The magazine
publishers kindly had an 'accident' and the advertisement got
burried, I estimated that only three people in Australia had
found the concealed advertisement; two months later Telstra and
everyone else started producing multimedia ads for their
magazine ads. After several similar accidents here and back in
the States, the author had to give up the product. SO that's
why people brought Paint-Shop Pro at time time the price and
half the function; they then followed Joe's functions with a
12-18 month lag time).

See Brank Colin's response that would do the function, but its
*very* crude.

One of the things with Embellish is that allows you to paint
with any 'affect', anything you can do in Gimp:Image menu could
be 'painted' with using any drawing tool (brush, stamp, chalk,
pen, fill, so forth).

But that wasn't the important thing with Embellish, how its
'layers' works, leaves Gimp light years behind.
Very cool tool, and free!, just wish I had a Windows or OS/2
box to run it on but the network security implications of
running Windoz, yik.

daeron

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May 2, 2004, 1:19:22 AM5/2/04
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Fri13 wrote:
> use...@jc-newsREMOVECAPITALS.com wrote:
>
>> Can the properties of the regular brush tool be modified to
>> only work on pixels of certain colors, or am I missing
>> something totally obvious and the tool happens to be right in
>> front of me?
>
>
> First select area what you like to edit.
>
> then try this right click > filters > color(s) > map >
> colormap rotation
>

Yeh, sounds about righ, excessivly difficult & clumsby.
I know the tool the guy should be talking about.

Now if Gimp would just improve its layers to that
functionality. It would be the ultimate graphics tool.

Fred A. Miller

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May 2, 2004, 2:27:26 AM5/2/04
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daeron wrote:

[snip]



> But that wasn't the important thing with Embellish, how its
> 'layers' works, leaves Gimp light years behind.
> Very cool tool, and free!, just wish I had a Windows or OS/2
> box to run it on but the network security implications of
> running Windoz, yik.

Got that right!!

Fred

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daeron

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May 5, 2004, 11:30:59 AM5/5/04
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Fred A. Miller wrote:
> daeron wrote:
> [snip]
>> But that wasn't the important thing with Embellish, how its
>> 'layers' works, leaves Gimp light years behind.
>> Very cool tool, and free!, just wish I had a Windows or OS/2
>> box to run it on but the network security implications of
>> running Windoz, yik.
>
> Got that right!!
> Fred
>
Kinda universal law isn't it, Microsoft=crap

Out of interest though, have you or anyone you know of had a
look at Embellish to see what I was referring to regarding its
layering system?

Much easier than the gimp and more dependable than the gimp
system, and the interface is IMO easier to deal with as well as
providing some extra functions which gimp doesn't.
A lot of silly Windoz users probably used Embellish as if it
were one of their typical painting programs and never realised
its whole engine was designed around its layering system.

Unlike Gimp, layers are always active because every single
paint stroke (by whichever tool and 'paint') is recorded as a
separate layer on top of the others.
At any time you can select any one or more items
adjust their
opaqueness; their
edge feathering; turn their
visibility on or off (in use it is different than fiddling the
opaqueness);
position;
apply any affect or tool to just them;
re-arrange their order;
even delete the silly things if you decide you'd made a
mistake.

Say for example you're working on a map, you can go back at a
later stage and remove or turn invisible certain names or
topographic details you decide you don't need or wish to
change.
And gimp could be modified to work this way; maybe as simple as
a optional plug-in that causes new layers to be created.

Branko Collin

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May 5, 2004, 6:02:54 PM5/5/04
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daeron <dae...@some.net>, you wrote on Thu, 06 May 2004 01:30:59
+1000:

> Out of interest though, have you or anyone you know of had a
>look at Embellish to see what I was referring to regarding its
>layering system?

I just took a look at the web page, but the downloads seem to have
gone.

> Much easier than the gimp and more dependable than the gimp
>system, and the interface is IMO easier to deal with as well as
>providing some extra functions which gimp doesn't.
> A lot of silly Windoz users probably used Embellish as if it
>were one of their typical painting programs and never realised
>its whole engine was designed around its layering system.
>
> Unlike Gimp, layers are always active because every single
>paint stroke (by whichever tool and 'paint') is recorded as a
>separate layer on top of the others.
> At any time you can select any one or more items
> adjust their
> opaqueness; their
> edge feathering; turn their
> visibility on or off (in use it is different than fiddling the
>opaqueness);
> position;
> apply any affect or tool to just them;
> re-arrange their order;
> even delete the silly things if you decide you'd made a
>mistake.

Sounds a bit like Photogenics
(<http://www.idruna.com/photogenicshdr.html>).

Ingo Guenther

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May 6, 2004, 2:53:18 AM5/6/04
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Hi Branko,

> > Out of interest though, have you or anyone you know of had a
> >look at Embellish to see what I was referring to regarding its
> >layering system?
>
> I just took a look at the web page, but the downloads seem to have
> gone.

Try
http://www.sharemation.com/mfanning/embwin.zip

Regards,
Ingo.

Branko Collin

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May 6, 2004, 8:45:42 AM5/6/04
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Ingo Guenther <ingo_g...@gmx.de>, you wrote on Thu, 6 May 2004
08:53:18 +0200:

Thanks, but no. (Unless you are Dadaware.)

The Dadaware website says: " Our only restriction is that you don't
post these files on other sites, even in death we want to retain
control..."

And even if that restriction is a clear abuse of copyright as it was
originally intended to be, the authors are currently backed by (bad)
Dutch law in doing so. If I don't take copyright seriously, then how
can I expect others to take the GPL seriously?

Ingo Guenther

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May 6, 2004, 10:20:02 AM5/6/04
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Hi Branko,

> >Try
> >http://www.sharemation.com/mfanning/embwin.zip
>
> Thanks, but no. (Unless you are Dadaware.)
>
> The Dadaware website says: " Our only restriction is that you don't
> post these files on other sites, even in death we want to retain
> control..."

Yes, you're right. I didn't notice that line on the homepage itself.

Nevertheless, I - as a user that has paid dadaware for both the OS/2 and
Windows version - could offer you to send you the file via mail.

They say "feel free to grab a copy", and sending you my file isn't the
same as posting it on a site, I think.

Regards,
Ingo.

daeron

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May 6, 2004, 12:35:22 PM5/6/04
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Ingo Guenther wrote:
> They say "feel free to grab a copy", and sending you my file
> isn't the same as posting it on a site, I think.
>
> Regards,
> Ingo.

I use to know a Ingo in Sydney who went back to Germany, that
couldn't by any chance be yourself?

Ingo Guenther

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May 6, 2004, 6:00:02 PM5/6/04
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Hi daeron,

No, I always lived here.

But: If my younger brother wouldn't have shown up, I would live in
Australia now. My parents did already have the tickets and all the other
legal stuff done to emigrate. I often wondered what a life I would have
now, if it hadn't come this way.

Strange coincidences.... ;)

Regards,
Ingo.

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