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Francesc Guasch

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Jul 18, 2003, 5:45:15 AM7/18/03
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This must be a FAQ but I haven't find it in the faqs nor in
gloogle groups.

I needed more space to draw in the image, so I expanded it.
It growed but surprisingly I can't draw in the new space
created ! Not very usable imho.

There is a yellow and black border around the old space and
I can't do anything beyond.This is gimp-1.2.3

I tried to deselect everything and have been moving around
through the menus unsuccessfully.

Please someone give me a hint. Thank you very much

Dave Neary

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Jul 18, 2003, 7:03:07 AM7/18/03
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On 18 Jul 2003 02:45:15 -0700, Francesc Guasch said:
> I needed more space to draw in the image, so I expanded it.
> It growed but surprisingly I can't draw in the new space
> created ! Not very usable imho.

Ah - you ran into a fairly common gotcha.

An image is made up of several layers, which may be smaller than the
image itself... you can think of the image as a desktop on top of which
you place bits of paper which build up the overall picture of the
desktop. You can draw on the bits of paper, but not on the desktop
itself.

When you say "I expanded it", you might mean any of 3 or 4 things -
first, you might have simply made the window bigger - this doesn't
actually change the size of the image or of the layers in it. You might
have gone into the Image menu, chosen "Canvas size", and enlarged your
canvas. This grows the size of the image, but doesn't make the layers
any bigger. You might have used the Crop/resize tool in resize mode,
with "allow enlarging" on - this does the same thing as changing the
canvas size.

> There is a yellow and black border around the old space and
> I can't do anything beyond.This is gimp-1.2.3

Ah - seems like you've dragged the corner of the window, and haven't
actually resized the image at all.

In the Image menu, choose "Canvas Size", set the new canvas size,
position the existing canvas at the place you want it, and your image
will now be bigger.

To be able to draw in this space, you will either need to add a new
layer (in the layers, channels and paths dialog, select "New layer" from
teh context menu), or expand the existing layer (in the main image, in
the Layers menu, select "Layer to imagesize").

Cheers,
Dave.

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Dave Kelly

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Jul 18, 2003, 12:20:01 PM7/18/03
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Francesc Guasch wrote:

Have you explored creating a new picture the size you need
to also contain your new drawings and cutting and pasteing
original into it?

I did that once.

Francesc Guasch

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Jul 20, 2003, 10:36:26 AM7/20/03
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Dave Neary <real.addre...@thisoneis.invalid> wrote in message news:<slrnbhfkqs.j51.re...@bolsh.free.fr>...

> On 18 Jul 2003 02:45:15 -0700, Francesc Guasch said:
> > I needed more space to draw in the image, so I expanded it.
> > It growed but surprisingly I can't draw in the new space
> > created ! Not very usable imho.
>

> When you say "I expanded it", you might mean any of 3 or 4 things -

Thank you for answering me.

> first, you might have simply made the window bigger - this doesn't
> actually change the size of the image or of the layers in it. You might
> have gone into the Image menu, chosen "Canvas size", and enlarged your

YEs, that's what I did. My gimp is in spanish but it looks like
it could be a translation of what I did.

> > There is a yellow and black border around the old space and
> > I can't do anything beyond.This is gimp-1.2.3
>
> Ah - seems like you've dragged the corner of the window, and haven't
> actually resized the image at all.

No, the image "canvas" is bigger than before.

> To be able to draw in this space, you will either need to add a new
> layer (in the layers, channels and paths dialog, select "New layer" from
> teh context menu), or expand the existing layer (in the main image, in
> the Layers menu, select "Layer to imagesize").

That's what I need, thank you very much.

Francesc Guasch

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Jul 20, 2003, 10:37:37 AM7/20/03
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Dave Kelly <davee...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<R6VRa.9644$Mc.6...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

> Francesc Guasch wrote:
>
> > I needed more space to draw in the image, so I expanded it.
> > It growed but surprisingly I can't draw in the new space
> > created ! Not very usable imho.

> Have you explored creating a new picture the size you need


> to also contain your new drawings and cutting and pasteing
> original into it?
>

That's not easy if you got 20 layers.

Dave Neary

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Jul 21, 2003, 6:45:43 AM7/21/03
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On 20 Jul 2003 07:36:26 -0700, Francesc Guasch said:
> Dave Neary <real.addre...@thisoneis.invalid>

> Thank you for answering me.

A pleasure :)

>> To be able to draw in this space, you will either need to add a new
>> layer (in the layers, channels and paths dialog, select "New layer" from
>> teh context menu), or expand the existing layer (in the main image, in
>> the Layers menu, select "Layer to imagesize").
>
> That's what I need, thank you very much.

Glad to be of help. Happy GIMPing.

Phil Harper

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Jul 21, 2003, 7:24:50 AM7/21/03
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Dave Kelly <davee...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<R6VRa.9644$Mc.6...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

before you discovered layer to image size and canvas size one would
assume, that's simply a waste of time.

Dave Kelly

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Jul 21, 2003, 1:17:02 PM7/21/03
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Phil Harper wrote:

The answer to that maybe "Yes.".

What I was doing is I had an image with a border around it. I wanted a vine
growing around that border. I need room outside the original size of the
image to draw on.

I've used 'image size' and 'canvas size' since but have not gone back to
see if it would work on the original drawing. So for anybody new to gimp
don't take it as writen in stone only that was where I was in my learning
gimp.

Phil Harper

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Jul 21, 2003, 11:25:31 PM7/21/03
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Dave Kelly <davee...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<ieVSa.14928$Mc.11...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

no, of course, and everyone develops a different way of using the
GIMP, everyone will find one method suits, and is more productive for
them than another, sorry about the tone of my previous message...

Dave Kelly

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Jul 22, 2003, 2:46:18 AM7/22/03
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Phil Harper wrote:


and everyone develops a different way of using the
> GIMP, everyone will find one method suits, and is more productive for

> them than another.

Well spoken. And so true.

Dave


Mevolent

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Dec 20, 2023, 4:31:15 PM12/20/23
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This helped a ton, thank you
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