Fonts with a slanted hyphen
Jukka K. Korpela
somewhat slanted. I was unable to determine the fonts. I wonder where I
could find information on such fonts, maybe with text samples as images, and
perhaps about the origin of such a glyph design.
It would also be interested in hearing people's opinions about such design.
In my opinion, it might be slightly confusing and potentially misleading.
(I do not mean Fraktur fonts, which generally have a hyphen that is slanted
_and_ a double line, somewhat like a slanted "=". But I suspect the glyphs
I've seen might reflect this Fraktur tradition.)
--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
Andreas Höfeld
I'm with you on that. I think it's a kind of calligraphic look.
You'll find that more often with renaissance (old style) fonts
than with Didot-like ones. But I don't know if there are
specific overviews on that. Most fontmanagers will allow you
to chose your sample text.
Andreas
Ymir
It's fairly common in Humanist designs (for example, Adobe Jenson or FB
Californian). I doubt it has much to do with the Fraktur tradition since
these faces draw on 15th-16th century Italian designs for the most part.
André
--
use rot thirteen to email
ntvfnnx (at) tznvy.pbz
toby
> I have seen some printed publications that have the hyphen character as
> somewhat slanted. I was unable to determine the fonts. I wonder where I
> could find information on such fonts, maybe with text samples as images, and
> perhaps about the origin of such a glyph design.
Goudy Old Style is one such.
>
> It would also be interested in hearing people's opinions about such design.
> In my opinion, it might be slightly confusing and potentially misleading.
>
> (I do not mean Fraktur fonts, which generally have a hyphen that is slanted
> _and_ a double line, somewhat like a slanted "=". But I suspect the glyphs
> I've seen might reflect this Fraktur tradition.)
I saw reference to this specific feature in a book recently, I'll try
and find it again (perhaps a Noordzij, "The Stroke"[1]? Or the only
issue of the Journal of Typographic Research I've ever clapped eyes on,
last week?) Of course Fraktur descends directly from manuscript hands
so this is a venerable, pre-type convention.
[1] http://www.letterror.com/noordzij/streek/
toby
> Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> > I have seen some printed publications that have the hyphen character as
> > somewhat slanted. I was unable to determine the fonts. I wonder where I
> > could find information on such fonts, maybe with text samples as images, and
> > perhaps about the origin of such a glyph design.
>
> Goudy Old Style is one such.
He was quite fond of this affectation; it also appears in Goudy Text,
Hadriano, and I suspect many of his other designs (Kennerley? Deepdene?
U.C. Berkeley? My specimen books are in another country.)
>
> >
> > It would also be interested in hearing people's opinions about such design.
> > In my opinion, it might be slightly confusing and potentially misleading.
Would you object less if it were in an italic, rather than a roman
face?
Armadillo
> I have seen some printed publications that have the hyphen character as
> somewhat slanted. I was unable to determine the fonts. I wonder where I
> could find information on such fonts, maybe with text samples as images, and
> perhaps about the origin of such a glyph design.
>
> It would also be interested in hearing people's opinions about such design.
> In my opinion, it might be slightly confusing and potentially misleading.
In display sizes it is allright but in hyphenated text at the end of line it looks a bit out of place. Some typefaces have even slightly tilted hyphen which looks even more weird.
However perfect rectangle often looks a bit too mechanical and for example rounding corners just slightly and even making hyphen a bit thinner in the middle may improve fitting with other characters.
Very often special characters are not designed at all but 'standard' forms are used. Or at least placing and spacing are badly made. For example at character (@) is usually too big and too high. I'll admit that it is stantard design was set way before email addresses. However in modern typefaces it should be designed according to most frequent use. Now I adjust the size and placing manually, especially in business cards and alike.
Jukka
Andreas Prilop
>> I have seen some printed publications that have the hyphen character as
>> somewhat slanted.
>
> I saw reference to this specific feature in a book recently,
Bringhurst (of course). He has a whole section on the hyphen.
Andreas Prilop
> I have seen some printed publications that have the hyphen character as
> somewhat slanted. I was unable to determine the fonts. I wonder where I
> could find information on such fonts, maybe with text samples as images, and
> perhaps about the origin of such a glyph design.
> It would also be interested in hearing people's opinions about such design.
Bringhurst: Elements of Typographic Style
toby
Armadillo wrote:
> > I have seen some printed publications that have the hyphen character as
> > somewhat slanted. I was unable to determine the fonts. I wonder where I
> > could find information on such fonts, maybe with text samples as images, and
> > perhaps about the origin of such a glyph design.
> >
> > It would also be interested in hearing people's opinions about such design.
> > In my opinion, it might be slightly confusing and potentially misleading.
>
> In display sizes it is allright but in hyphenated text at the end of line it looks a bit out of place. Some typefaces have even slightly tilted hyphen which looks even more weird.
>
> However perfect rectangle often looks a bit too mechanical and for example rounding corners just slightly and even making hyphen a bit thinner in the middle may improve fitting with other characters.
>
> Very often special characters are not designed at all but 'standard' forms are used.
*cough* Adobe