TTF vs TTC fonts?
Sean McKinnon
Hi all,
The Japanese version of Windows 95 has a font called MS Gothic that
contains what looks like both proportional and fixed charsets, (and perhaps
vertical and horizontal charsets) all in one font file.
The font extension is .TTC (not .TTF) and the font icon appears in green
(rather than blue) in the Control Panel Fonts applet.
I've tried to install this font on a Windows NT 4.0 machine, and an English
Windows 95 machine without success. The font installer recognizes the .TTC
file as a font and tells me the correct name, but fails during the install
process.
Does anybody know what a .TTC font really is? and has anybody successfully
installed one of these fonts in an English Windows OS?
Thanks very much,
Sean McKinnon
Kerr Vayne Systems Ltd.
email: smck...@kvs.com
Gunars Lucans
Sean McKinnon wrote:
> The Japanese version of Windows 95 has a font called MS Gothic that
> contains what looks like both proportional and fixed charsets, (and perhaps
> vertical and horizontal charsets) all in one font file.
>
> The font extension is .TTC (not .TTF) and the font icon appears in green
> (rather than blue) in the Control Panel Fonts applet.
>
> I've tried to install this font on a Windows NT 4.0 machine, and an English
> Windows 95 machine without success. The font installer recognizes the .TTC
> file as a font and tells me the correct name, but fails during the install
> process.
>
> Does anybody know what a .TTC font really is? and has anybody successfully
> installed one of these fonts in an English Windows OS?
TTC files are Truetype collection files that contain two or more related
fonts. You're right about the MS Gothic TTC file -- it contains both
regular MS Gothic and MS P-Gothic (proportional). The reason for
combining them is that the proportional vs. nonproportional distinction
is made only for the single byte kana; the kanji (and double byte kana)
that make up the vast bulk of the file are always fixed width. In the
TTC file, there are two versions of the kana (Gothic and P-Gothic) and a
single set of kanji that is shared between the two. I'm not sure if the
vertical charsets are in there as well.
With Win95, I haven't even found the proper way to install the 932
Japanese codepage, much less MS Gothic. With NT 4.0, you might take a
look at the /langpack directory on the CD. There's a version of MS
Mincho there that runs on the English system.
--
Gunars Lucans -- gun...@spss.com -- SPSS Inc, Chicago, USA
Jim King
>The Japanese version of Windows 95 has a font called MS Gothic that
>contains what looks like both proportional and fixed charsets, (and perhaps
>vertical and horizontal charsets) all in one font file.
>The font extension is .TTC (not .TTF) and the font icon appears in green
>(rather than blue) in the Control Panel Fonts applet.
>I've tried to install this font on a Windows NT 4.0 machine, and an English
>Windows 95 machine without success. The font installer recognizes the .TTC
>file as a font and tells me the correct name, but fails during the install
>process.
>Does anybody know what a .TTC font really is? and has anybody successfully
>installed one of these fonts in an English Windows OS?
To quote the Microsoft TrueType spec:
A TrueType Collection (TTC) is a means of delivering multiple TrueType fonts
in a single file structure. TrueType Collections are most useful when the
fonts to be delivered together share many glyphs in common. By allowing
multiple fonts to share glyph sets, TTCs can result in a significant saving
of file space.
For example, a group of Japanese fonts may each have their own designs for
the kana glyphs, but share identical designs for the kanji. With ordinary
TrueType font files, the only way to include the common kanji glyphs is to
copy their glyph data into each font. Since the kanji represent much more
data than the kana, this results in a great deal of wasteful duplication of
glyph data. TTCs were defined to solve this problem.
So the TTC is really what you are looking for. I've never tried to install one
into the English version of Windows 95, but Windows 95 and NT are supposed to
use them. Maybe you've just got a bad font file?
Jim King
Design Science, Inc.
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Bruce H. Liu
Sean McKinnon wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The Japanese version of Windows 95 has a font called MS Gothic that
> contains what looks like both proportional and fixed charsets, (and perhaps
> vertical and horizontal charsets) all in one font file.
>
> The font extension is .TTC (not .TTF) and the font icon appears in green
> (rather than blue) in the Control Panel Fonts applet.
>
> I've tried to install this font on a Windows NT 4.0 machine, and an English
> Windows 95 machine without success. The font installer recognizes the .TTC
> file as a font and tells me the correct name, but fails during the install
> process.
>
> Does anybody know what a .TTC font really is? and has anybody successfully
> installed one of these fonts in an English Windows OS?
>
TTC stands for TrueType Collection. As far as I know, it supports proportional
English characters and fix-spaced Kanji in the same font. The English characters
in the good old TTF of Chinese and Japanese Truetype fonts are monospaced.
No. I don't think you can use TTC's in English version of Windows 95 or NT.
Well, I may be wrong. Let me know if you find some answers.
Regards,
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Yugo Nakamura
Windows NT 4.0 US version does not recognize TTC.
I haven't tried this but MS provides a tool for breaking the TTC
into two TTFs. Go to
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/developr/drg/truetype
and download ttsdk.zip. Unzip it and you'll find breakttc.exe in
ttc directory. Let me know the results. Good Luck!
Yugo