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Looking for Singer Sewing Font

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Dave D

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Apr 15, 2005, 8:33:43 AM4/15/05
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Does anyone recognize this font? I contacted Singer here in the US and
they are not sure what the font is.
Thanks for any help.
http://www.singerco.com/images/logo_singer.gif

Iain Hallam

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Apr 15, 2005, 8:58:27 AM4/15/05
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Looks like copperplate:

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/copperplate-gothic/

but the G has a left-pointing extension. Perhaps Singer used a modified
version, or found a similar type with the correct G.

- Iain.

Iain Hallam

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Apr 15, 2005, 11:54:34 AM4/15/05
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Dick Margulis wrote:
> Bzzzt. Wrong. Next contestant.
>
> For starters, copperplate is something entirely different from
> Copperplate Gothic. Copperplate is a script style associated with
> copperplate engraved formal invitations.

I do know: extremely sorry for using a shorthand to refer to a font
name. I must obviously be far more careful in future.

> However, getting back to the question at hand, the Singer logo predates
> digital typography.

Do you know, I think I might have guessed that?

> In fact, it probably predates photoengraving. It
> most certainly predates Copperplate Gothic, which was designed by F.W.
> Goudy in the early 1900s.

Fair enough - I'm not familiar with the history of the Singer brand. I
did consider whether there was a physical typeface similar to
Copperplate Gothic around at the time that had been used.

> The original, after being sketched for
> approval, was most likely rendered in India ink and then routed, using a
> pantograph, in steel plates of various sizes to make logotypes that were
> then reproduced, presumably as stereotypes.

Interesting.

> The relation to the
> font-making process is tenuous at best, with the major point of
> convergence being height-to-paper.

- Iain.

PS: Perhaps (note: a suggestion, as in my earlier post) you could adopt
a less antagonistic approach next time? It's not good for blood pressure.

Dick Margulis

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Apr 15, 2005, 12:12:57 PM4/15/05
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Iain Hallam wrote:

Iain,

I'm an easygoing guy. Blood pressure isn't a problem. Here's the deal,
though. If you had said, "Gee, the Singer logo is somewhat reminiscent
of Copperplate Gothic even though logos of that vintage were never
created from existing fonts--why don't you start with Copperplate Gothic
and try to tweak it in Illustrator to match the logo better?" I'd have
gone along with you. But instead you misled the OP by suggesting there
must be a font out there for him if only he kept looking and you also
introduced confusion with your shorthanded "copperplate." I don't care
if you shorthand Times New Roman as Times, but Copperplate Gothic bears
no resemblance whatsoever to lowercase-c-copperplate; so some care in
differentiating them is warranted, lest you send people off on wild
Google chases.

So my buzzer went off. Sorry you took offense. Have a pleasant day,
assuming you're not a USian with taxes due today.

Dick

reefer

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Apr 16, 2005, 9:55:35 PM4/16/05
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Iain,
Check your blood pressure.
I saw a coffee cup once.
Sorry I didn't buy it.
It had a cat on it with all its hair sticking straight out.
The text beneath the graphic was:
"Paranoid....who wants to know"?

Professor Margulis has a way of "speaking" on the internet.
If you listen to him and get reallly smart about fonts,
then YOU will have your own way of "speaking."

Lighten up a little.
At least he didn't give you the Chuck Barris hook!
Comedy is a very important part of seriousness.
Once you understand this concept, you too will get to
conduct your own game show and "shoot" people off the air
like Larry Glick did on WBZ, Boston for several years.

ooops, ignore everything I just said....I was drinking tequila.

Dick Margulis

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Apr 15, 2005, 9:22:43 AM4/15/05
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Iain Hallam wrote:


Bzzzt. Wrong. Next contestant.

For starters, copperplate is something entirely different from
Copperplate Gothic. Copperplate is a script style associated with
copperplate engraved formal invitations.

However, getting back to the question at hand, the Singer logo predates
digital typography. In fact, it probably predates photoengraving. It

most certainly predates Copperplate Gothic, which was designed by F.W.

Goudy in the early 1900s. The original, after being sketched for

approval, was most likely rendered in India ink and then routed, using a
pantograph, in steel plates of various sizes to make logotypes that were

then reproduced, presumably as stereotypes. The relation to the

Andy Creel

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Jun 13, 2023, 5:34:30 PM6/13/23
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Hi Ian!

Just wanted to say I went to Google with the same question as the OP and your answer was much more helpful than that Dick's posts. Thanks a bunch!

Mosh

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Jun 19, 2023, 6:33:00 PM6/19/23
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Chill, mate; you came off as quite presumptious. If you have an idea about the face being used, ok, comment on it. But you sure did not sound friendly at all. That tone in your response was uncalled for.
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