http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/copperplate-gothic/
but the G has a left-pointing extension. Perhaps Singer used a modified
version, or found a similar type with the correct G.
- Iain.
I do know: extremely sorry for using a shorthand to refer to a font
name. I must obviously be far more careful in future.
> However, getting back to the question at hand, the Singer logo predates
> digital typography.
Do you know, I think I might have guessed that?
> In fact, it probably predates photoengraving. It
> most certainly predates Copperplate Gothic, which was designed by F.W.
> Goudy in the early 1900s.
Fair enough - I'm not familiar with the history of the Singer brand. I
did consider whether there was a physical typeface similar to
Copperplate Gothic around at the time that had been used.
> The original, after being sketched for
> approval, was most likely rendered in India ink and then routed, using a
> pantograph, in steel plates of various sizes to make logotypes that were
> then reproduced, presumably as stereotypes.
Interesting.
> The relation to the
> font-making process is tenuous at best, with the major point of
> convergence being height-to-paper.
- Iain.
PS: Perhaps (note: a suggestion, as in my earlier post) you could adopt
a less antagonistic approach next time? It's not good for blood pressure.
Iain Hallam wrote:
Iain,
I'm an easygoing guy. Blood pressure isn't a problem. Here's the deal,
though. If you had said, "Gee, the Singer logo is somewhat reminiscent
of Copperplate Gothic even though logos of that vintage were never
created from existing fonts--why don't you start with Copperplate Gothic
and try to tweak it in Illustrator to match the logo better?" I'd have
gone along with you. But instead you misled the OP by suggesting there
must be a font out there for him if only he kept looking and you also
introduced confusion with your shorthanded "copperplate." I don't care
if you shorthand Times New Roman as Times, but Copperplate Gothic bears
no resemblance whatsoever to lowercase-c-copperplate; so some care in
differentiating them is warranted, lest you send people off on wild
Google chases.
So my buzzer went off. Sorry you took offense. Have a pleasant day,
assuming you're not a USian with taxes due today.
Dick
Professor Margulis has a way of "speaking" on the internet.
If you listen to him and get reallly smart about fonts,
then YOU will have your own way of "speaking."
Lighten up a little.
At least he didn't give you the Chuck Barris hook!
Comedy is a very important part of seriousness.
Once you understand this concept, you too will get to
conduct your own game show and "shoot" people off the air
like Larry Glick did on WBZ, Boston for several years.
ooops, ignore everything I just said....I was drinking tequila.
Iain Hallam wrote:
Bzzzt. Wrong. Next contestant.
For starters, copperplate is something entirely different from
Copperplate Gothic. Copperplate is a script style associated with
copperplate engraved formal invitations.
However, getting back to the question at hand, the Singer logo predates
digital typography. In fact, it probably predates photoengraving. It
most certainly predates Copperplate Gothic, which was designed by F.W.
Goudy in the early 1900s. The original, after being sketched for
approval, was most likely rendered in India ink and then routed, using a
pantograph, in steel plates of various sizes to make logotypes that were
then reproduced, presumably as stereotypes. The relation to the