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tchr...@mich.com

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Sep 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/28/96
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I have a variety of different Greek fonts on the Mac which have different
codes for each letter - they're produced under different standards. I
would like to change the character set so that the fonts are all encoded
the same. For example, one font has lower case theta as 245, another as
232; I want them both to be 232 so I can switch fonts without having to
retype the document.

Is there any way to do this on the Mac without spending a fortune? I
don't want to shell out $400 for a full-blown type editor which is meant
for creating the fonts themselves when all I need to do is to change the
encoding. I have ResEdit, which I've heard you can use to do simple hacks
on fonts if you know what you're doing...is it enough for this job, and if
so, how do I do it?

While I'm on the subject, are there any good FAQ's out there which explain
the way MacIntosh fonts and character sets are constructed? Or can anyone
recommend a good book?

Richard J. Kinch

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Sep 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/28/96
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tchr...@mich.com wrote:
: I have a variety of different Greek fonts on the Mac which have different

: codes for each letter - they're produced under different standards. I
: would like to change the character set so that the fonts are all encoded
: the same.

See my Web page regarding ttf_edit, a TrueType encoding editor. This should
be exactly what you need (except for needing a DOS, Windows, or UNIX platform
to run it).

Richard J. Kinch, Ph.D. ki...@holonet.net
6994 Pebble Beach Court Publisher, TrueTeX (R) brand
Lake Worth FL 33467 typesetting software.
Tel (561) 966-8400 See http://styx.ios.com/~kinch
FAX (561) 966-0962

Dave Opstad

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Sep 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/28/96
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In article <52i2as$1...@news.mich.com>, <tchr...@mich.com> wrote:

> I have a variety of different Greek fonts on the Mac which have different
> codes for each letter - they're produced under different standards. I
> would like to change the character set so that the fonts are all encoded

> the same. For example, one font has lower case theta as 245, another as
> 232; I want them both to be 232 so I can switch fonts without having to
> retype the document.
>
> Is there any way to do this on the Mac without spending a fortune? I
> don't want to shell out $400 for a full-blown type editor which is meant
> for creating the fonts themselves when all I need to do is to change the
> encoding. I have ResEdit, which I've heard you can use to do simple hacks
> on fonts if you know what you're doing...is it enough for this job, and if
> so, how do I do it?

TrueEdit is a free program which can edit the character mapping tables in
fonts on a Mac. You can get a copy from the GX Fan Club, at:

http://www.ixmedia.com/quickgx/quickgx.html

Dave Opstad

tchr...@mich.com

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Sep 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/29/96
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Dave Opstad <ops...@apple.com> wrote:

: In article <52i2as$1...@news.mich.com>, <tchr...@mich.com> wrote:

: > I have a variety of different Greek fonts on the Mac which have different
: > codes for each letter - they're produced under different standards. I
: > would like to change the character set so that the fonts are all encoded

: TrueEdit is a free program which can edit the character mapping tables in


: fonts on a Mac. You can get a copy from the GX Fan Club, at:

Many thanks for the advice. I downloaded it immediately. Unfortunately,
I run the program and it tells me that I need "Collection Manager" to run
the program. Do you have any idea what it's talking about?


Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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Sep 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/30/96
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In article <52i2as$1...@news.mich.com>, <tchr...@mich.com> wrote:

>I would like to change the character set so that the fonts are all encoded
>the same.


>
>Is there any way to do this on the Mac without spending a fortune?

You could try TrueEdit, available for free from the QuickDraw GX Fan Club
site <http://www.ixmedia.com/quickgx/default.html>.

Andreas Prilop

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Sep 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/30/96
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In article <52i2as$1...@news.mich.com>, <tchr...@mich.com> wrote:

>I have a variety of different Greek fonts on the Mac which have different

>codes for each letter - they're produced under different standards. I


>would like to change the character set so that the fonts are all encoded

>the same. For example, one font has lower case theta as 245, another as
>232; I want them both to be 232 so I can switch fonts without having to
>retype the document.

You make this mess even bigger!!

The Macintosh character code for small theta (θ) is indeed 245 = xF5.
But the character code in ISO-8859-7 and Windows-1253 is 232 = xE8.
<ftp://unicode.org/pub/UNIX/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/APPLE/GREEK.TXT>
<ftp://unicode.org/pub/UNIX/MAPPINGS/ISO8859/8859-7.TXT>
<ftp://unicode.org/pub/UNIX/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/WINDOWS/CP1253.TXT>

You won't get very far with ISO-8859-7 fonts on the Mac because you would
have Greek letters at the code positions of en-dash, em-dash, no-break-
space, etc. etc.

Andreas
Ανδρέας

Reinder Verlinde

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Sep 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/30/96
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In article <52l1n6$3...@news.mich.com>, <tchr...@mich.com> wrote:
)
) : TrueEdit is a free program which can edit the character mapping tables in
) : fonts on a Mac. You can get a copy from the GX Fan Club, at:
)
) Many thanks for the advice. I downloaded it immediately. Unfortunately,
) I run the program and it tells me that I need "Collection Manager" to run
) the program. Do you have any idea what it's talking about?

nice, non-informative answer: it is a set of routines for dealing with
collections. One way to get it is by installing QuickDraw GX. Of the
top of my head, I don't know of any other way to get it (QuickDraw 3D may
be one, QuickTime might be), but even so, I think you will find that you
need QuickDraw GX to run TrueEdit, in the first place.
(and make sure that you do not work on your only copy of the Greek fonts;
TrueEdit is not that buggy, but it helps to stay on the safe side)

Reinder Verlinde

tchr...@mich.com

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Sep 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/30/96
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Thanks to everyone for the help...I've gotten my hands on TrueEdit, gotten
it up and running, and have hacked the fonts exactly how I wanted them...


Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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Oct 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/2/96
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In article <52l1n6$3...@news.mich.com>, <tchr...@mich.com> wrote:

>Unfortunately,


>I run the program and it tells me that I need "Collection Manager" to run

>the program. Do you have any idea what it's talking about?

This is part of QuickDraw GX <http://www.ixmedia.com/quickgx/> and, I
believe, also LaserWriter 8.4.

John Doherty

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Oct 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/2/96
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In article <ldo-021096...@mhacking-tosh-ii.cc.waikato.ac.nz>,
l...@waikato.ac.nz wrote:

I've got LW-8.4 installed and working (such as it is) on this machine, but
no Collection Manager, so I guess the original poster will have to install
full-up QDGX, which is probably more than they want to do just to run
TrueEdit.

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