font newbie has questions about Adobe Font Folio
Armadillo
> on Adobe type folio. They seem to have a lot of great fonts in the
> series. However, we're a small operation and worried that it might be
> overkill. For those of you who use already use it, I have some
It really is a overkill, about half of the typefaces are useful. But, get it
if you can afford it.
I think that FF8 is better than FF9 because it has collection of Bertholdt
typefaces. Also Adobe's current OpenType selection is mostly crap.
> Do you actually install all 2000-3000 fonts onto your computer or do
> you just retrieve the font when you need it from the CD? The Adobe
> site had little information about this.
I copied all the fonts to my hard disk. Arranged in alphabetical folders.
They are also arranged by package number.
> If you do install the fonts, is it a drag on your system? I use
> Windows XP with decent RAM. I understand that ATM helps with this.
Don't drag anything to fonts folder, use ATM. Moving or copying font files
is not a good idea. Sooner or later you'll delete the only copy and have to
copy it back from the CD. (My fonts and folders are have 'Read Only'
attribute)
> I keep on reading on forums that ATM 4.1 is not needed in Windows XP,
> but don't you need ATM to activate and deactivate the fonts that are
> on your system, epecially if you have thousands of fonts.
Windows can render PS fonts but installing is awkward. In XP ATM's rendering
features are disabled but you an use it for installing fonts.
> Is ATM the best way to view your fonts before using it them, or does
> the font folio come with some sort of font viewer? Or is there
> another software that is used to view fonts to help you choose which
> one is best for your?
ATM is not that good font manager. Get Suitcase (www.extensis.com), it has
the best font preview. Unfortunately it cannot install or display MM fonts,
use ATM for them.
Jukka
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"Sophia" <ns...@email.com> wrote in message
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> Do you actually install all 2000-3000 fonts onto your computer or do
> you just retrieve the font when you need it from the CD? The Adobe
> site had little information about this.
You just retrieve them from the CD whenever you want them. What most
companies do is either make the CD accessible via ethernet, or copy its
contents to a centralized location on the network where people who would
need access to the fonts can actually reach them. Font Folio is licensed for
20 machines and 5 printers, so as long as only 20 computers or less have
access to the files, it's okay to place them anywhere on a network.
> If you do install the fonts, is it a drag on your system? I use
> Windows XP with decent RAM. I understand that ATM helps with this.
Don't install all the fonts at once. Install what you need. It's good to
keep track of these things on a per-project basis.
> I keep on reading on forums that ATM 4.1 is not needed in Windows XP,
> but don't you need ATM to activate and deactivate the fonts that are
> on your system, epecially if you have thousands of fonts.
A copy of ATM Deluxe ships with every Font Folio, and it comes in very handy
to keep a database of the fonts, activate/deactivate sets that you can
permanently leave on the machine until they're needed. ATM is also your only
way to use the multiple master fonts that ship with Font Folio.
> Is ATM the best way to view your fonts before using it them, or does
> the font folio come with some sort of font viewer? Or is there
> another software that is used to view fonts to help you choose which
> one is best for your?
Personally, I like ATM the best. But some people like Suitcase
(www.extensis.com), some like Font Reserve (www.fontreserve.com), and some
like Typograph (www.neuber.com). Try out the demos and see which one appeals
to you.
If you're planning to buy a brand new version of Font Folio 9, I suggest
buying it from Agfa, since for some reason they are always retailing it for
less than Adobe does. However, like someone else recommended here, Font
Folio 8 (or even 7) is a much better deal (many more fonts than FF9), except
that you have to find someone who wants to transfer their license to it,
since 7 and 8 are not on the market anymore.
About six weeks ago, a company I do work for in Conneticut called to tell me
that they want to transfer their license to Font Folio 7 for $3000. I don't
know if they still have it now, but I can find out. If you want, drop me a
line and I'll get you in touch with them.
Armadillo
> buying it from Agfa, since for some reason they are always retailing it
for
> less than Adobe does. However, like someone else recommended here, Font
It is not the same typeface collection no matter what Agfa says.
Jukka
RSD99
As for ATM, is it going to automatically gather up the fonts from
various places (photoshop folder for instance) so I can use the fonts
wherever I want, or do I still need to move all the Folio fonts into
the windows fonts folder?
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First:
ATM Deluxe is not going to organize your fonts any more than Excel is automatically going
to create a financial statement for your business. It is simply a tool that will allow
*you* to organize them.
Second:
Not all fonts are installed in C:\Windows\Fonts. Especially PostScript fonts ... which is
all that is included in versions 1 through 8 of Adobe's Font Folio, and make up the vast
majority of the fonts in Adobe's Font Folio version 9.
"Sophia" <ns...@email.com> wrote in message
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> thanks for the advice. I guess I better start learning my fonts if
> I'm going to have so many of them. I'm not sure I would even know
> what to do with 2000 designer shoes.
>
> As for ATM, is it going to automatically gather up the fonts from
> various places (photoshop folder for instance) so I can use the fonts
> wherever I want, or do I still need to move all the Folio fonts into
> the windows fonts folder?
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>
> As for ATM, is it going to automatically gather up the fonts from
> various places (photoshop folder for instance) so I can use the fonts
> wherever I want, or do I still need to move all the Folio fonts into
> the windows fonts folder?
>
ATM usually installs postscript fonts in the c:\psfonts folder, but you do
have the option of installing fonts without moving them (eg, you can install
Helvetica from a Temp folder, without letting ATM copy it to c:\psfonts, for
instance), which is cool if you have your fonts grouped in folders and you
want to keep them that way.
ceer
> I think that FF8 is better than FF9 because it has collection of
> Bertholdt typefaces. Also Adobe's current OpenType selection is
> mostly crap.
if i understand, these fonts are on FF8:
http://www.bertholdtypes.com/adobe_lib/adobelibrary.html
is there more difference FF8 vs FF9 ?
-ceer.
Armadillo
> if i understand, these fonts are on FF8:
> http://www.bertholdtypes.com/adobe_lib/adobelibrary.html
Yes.
> is there more difference FF8 vs FF9 ?
FF9 has of course more and the latest Adobe typefaces but the only one I've
missed so far is Voluta Script. Also FF9 includes Open Type fonts. The
selection seems to better now but they are not all included.
Jukka