HELP: Need to create PFM files from PFB files.
Frithiof
wrote:
>Subject says it all. I have some PFB files that I need
>to make PFM files from.
So, how does it happen that you have PFB files without having their
corresponding PFM files??
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Hallgeir Lied
an49...@anon.penet.fi (Frithiof) wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 19:35:22 -0500, Alex Fernandez <alex...@tiac.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Subject says it all. I have some PFB files that I need
>>to make PFM files from.
>
>So, how does it happen that you have PFB files without having their
>corresponding PFM files??
There we go again, this newsgroup is plagued with suspicion. When
someone searches for some files, there is always some other attender
suggesting that he has pirated something since what he has is not
complete.
Why not just help the man instead of these accusations.
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Tiro TypeWorks
>>So, how does it happen that you have PFB files without having their
>>corresponding PFM files??
>There we go again, this newsgroup is plagued with suspicion. When
>someone searches for some files, there is always some other attender
>suggesting that he has pirated something since what he has is not
>complete.
>Why not just help the man instead of these accusations.
If the question seems to you to be an accusation, this can only be
because fonts obtained through legitimate channels should come with
all necessary files. Of course, an accident may have occured, the PFM
files might have been erased. The question remains, however, a valid
one. As I suggested, in my response to the original posting, it would
be easier to help this person if he could provide more information --
which fonts he is referring to and how he came by them would be a good
place to start.
John Hudson, Type Director
Tiro TypeWorks
Vancouver, BC
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Alex Fernandez
Tiro TypeWorks wrote:
>
> hl...@telepost.no (Hallgeir Lied) wrote:
>
> >>So, how does it happen that you have PFB files without having their
> >>corresponding PFM files??
These fonts came with a 3D animation, modeling and rendering program
that I did purchase! It's called Lightwave 3D. To make logo
animations, it allows you to load Type 1 fonts and makes 3D objects
out of them. But It only uses the PFB files to create the models.
It did come with the AFM files but it doesn't use them and neither
does my font manager (FSPro, which I also paid for!). I talked to the
guys that put out Font Spec Pro, and they told me that I need both
the PFM files as well as the PFB files to use them in Font Spec Pro.
Hence my query for how to create these PFM files from PFB files still
stands. They also told me that Microsoft use to have a utility that
does this. Anybody heard of it?
I didn't know that stealing fonts was as problmeatic as stealing
software.
Mark P. Fishman
>If the question seems to you to be an accusation, this can only be
>because fonts obtained through legitimate channels should come with
>all necessary files. Of course, an accident may have occured, the PFM
>files might have been erased.
Of course, the only *necessary* files are the PFB, INF,
and *AFM* (not PFM) files. The AFM contains all the really
useful info in a much more portable form than a PFM file,
which is a *Microsoft* (not Adobe) format.
If one needs a PFM file, Adobe Type Manager will make it
from the abovementioned necessary files. FontMinder 3.x will
also do this trick.
Adobe doesn't supply PFM files, and Monotype's CD 5 unlocking
program doesn't copy the pre-built ones (although they are
on the CD). It is thus quite easy to have legit PFBs without
PFMs.
Cheers -- Mark F.
Tiro TypeWorks
>Adobe doesn't supply PFM files, and Monotype's CD 5 unlocking
>program doesn't copy the pre-built ones (although they are
>on the CD). It is thus quite easy to have legit PFBs without
>PFMs.
I think you'll find that Adobe does supply PFM files with all fonts
shipped. On the other hand, they don't normally ship AFM files,
although all these are freely available from their ftp and web sites.
Ted Keener
TT>hl...@telepost.no (Hallgeir Lied) wrote:
TT>>>So, how does it happen that you have PFB files without having their
TT>>>corresponding PFM files??
TT>>There we go again, this newsgroup is plagued with suspicion. When
TT>>someone searches for some files, there is always some other attender
TT>>suggesting that he has pirated something since what he has is not
TT>>complete.
TT>>Why not just help the man instead of these accusations.
TT>If the question seems to you to be an accusation, this can only be
TT>because fonts obtained through legitimate channels should come with
TT>all necessary files. Of course, an accident may have occured, the PFM
TT>files might have been erased. The question remains, however, a valid
TT>one. As I suggested, in my response to the original posting, it would
TT>be easier to help this person if he could provide more information --
TT>which fonts he is referring to and how he came by them would be a good
TT>place to start.
I do recall older versions of ATM, bundled with Lotus products perhaps,
that had .pfb's but no .pfm's on the diskette. Of course, once one
installed the ATM, the .pfm's magically appeared!
Ted
Message written at 2:42pm, on Wednesday, January 31, 1996.
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Take a look at the following ftp site. There is some shareware that may
be able to help you out.
ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk /packages/ibmpc/windows3/
then look through the directories, there is a dedicated FONTS dir there
somewhere.
http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk /packages, etc...
this is the same place.
SeeYaBye!
Neil McLeish
William F. Maddock
>I'm the originator of this post. So let me explain.
>Tiro TypeWorks wrote:
>>
>> hl...@telepost.no (Hallgeir Lied) wrote:
>>
>> >>So, how does it happen that you have PFB files without having their
>> >>corresponding PFM files??
>These fonts came with a 3D animation, modeling and rendering program
>that I did purchase! It's called Lightwave 3D. To make logo
>animations, it allows you to load Type 1 fonts and makes 3D objects
>out of them. But It only uses the PFB files to create the models.
>It did come with the AFM files but it doesn't use them and neither
>does my font manager (FSPro, which I also paid for!). I talked to the
>guys that put out Font Spec Pro, and they told me that I need both
>the PFM files as well as the PFB files to use them in Font Spec Pro.
>Hence my query for how to create these PFM files from PFB files still
>stands. They also told me that Microsoft use to have a utility that
>does this. Anybody heard of it?
>I didn't know that stealing fonts was as problmeatic as stealing
>software.
I think you'll find it a lot easier to convert the afm's to pfm's on
Windows/Mac. Lightwave 3D originated on the Amiga and we don't generally use
pfm's (PageStream3 does, but there's still no way for Amigans to *create*
pfm's).
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Tiro TypeWorks
>These fonts came with a 3D animation, modeling and rendering program
>that I did purchase! It's called Lightwave 3D. To make logo
>animations, it allows you to load Type 1 fonts and makes 3D objects
>out of them. But It only uses the PFB files to create the models.
>It did come with the AFM files but it doesn't use them and neither
>does my font manager (FSPro, which I also paid for!). I talked to the
>guys that put out Font Spec Pro, and they told me that I need both
>the PFM files as well as the PFB files to use them in Font Spec Pro.
>Hence my query for how to create these PFM files from PFB files still
>stands. They also told me that Microsoft use to have a utility that
>does this. Anybody heard of it?
>I didn't know that stealing fonts was as problmeatic as stealing
>software.
I suspect the easiest thing for you to do is to find someone running
ATM under Windows and have them generate the PFMs for you. You will
have to supply them with the PFB, AFM and INF files for the fonts in
question; under your font license agreement you will have to make sure
that whoever helps you with this removes the fonts from their system
once this is complete. The INF file usually accompanies the AFM and is
a naming file which allows ATM to identify fonts in a directory (in
the absence of a PFM). If it is missing, it may be possible to write
one for the font in question; I can supply you with the format, if you
need it.
Rodger Whitlock
[about legitimately possessing PFB files w.o. having the corresponding
PFM files -- but he does have the AFM files]
The freeware utility REFONT will create PFMs for you from the AFMs that
you have. Check the comp.fonts FAQ at
http://jasper.ora.com:80/comp.fonts/index.html
for details.
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Rodger Whitlock
Mark P. Fishman
>I think you'll find that Adobe does supply PFM files with all fonts
>shipped. On the other hand, they don't normally ship AFM files,
>although all these are freely available from their ftp and web sites.
>
Although I agree that AFMs are usually available from Adobe in some
manner, I haven't found the rest of your statement to hold true. As
a single example, I purchased Adobe Type Basics for IBM-compatible to
get copies of the 35 "basic" printer fonts. The disks contain PFB,
AFM, and INF files (as well as a copy of Adobe Type Manager for
MS-Windows), but there are no PFMs.
Additional data comes from Adobe's webmaster, who says that Adobe
ships AFMs with all type packages.
Type On Call *by default* will copy PFBs and PFMs when you unlock
fonts, but there is an option to copy the AFMs and INFs as well.
In my experience, fonts from the CD are the only ones that automagically
come with pre-built PFMs.
Maybe we've just bought different font sets?
Cheers -- Mark F.
Roger White
>an49...@anon.penet.fi (Frithiof) wrote:
>>On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 19:35:22 -0500, Alex Fernandez <alex...@tiac.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Subject says it all. I have some PFB files that I need
>>>to make PFM files from.
>>
>>corresponding PFM files??
>There we go again, this newsgroup is plagued with suspicion. When
>someone searches for some files, there is always some other attender
>suggesting that he has pirated something since what he has is not
>complete.
>Why not just help the man instead of these accusations.
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>//-----------------------------
>// Hallgeir Lied
>// 6018 Aalesund
>// Norway
>// email: hl...@telepost.no
>//-----------------------------
Where was the suggestion that the .PFB files had been pirated? There was
a simple question about how the enquirer had .PFB files without .PFM
files.
Roger W.
Liam R. E. Quin
>Where was the suggestion that the .PFB files had been pirated? There was
>a simple question about how the enquirer had .PFB files without .PFM
>files.
People like throwing stones.
I have lots of pfb files with neither afm nor pfm, generally becuase they
came in mac format and I had to convert them to use on Unix, and the AFM
files often don't convert, and the font manufacturers don't bother with
little things like pfm files. In one case (Celestia), I have no AFM file
since fontHaus apparently don't bother with such things.
In a few cases, I simply lost the afm or pfm files, or didn't have disk
space for them at the time. I try not to lose afm files, 'cos they have
kerning in them -- I don't have any way of using pfm files, so I tend not
to care so much about those.
Lee
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>I have lots of pfb files with neither afm nor pfm, generally becuase they
>came in mac format and I had to convert them to use on Unix, and the AFM
>files often don't convert...
That's kind of bizarre, since AFM files are just text files.
>In one case (Celestia), I have no AFM file
>since fontHaus apparently don't bother with such things.
That's fair enough, since hardly anything on the Mac uses them. The font
metrics are stored in the font-family resource (or in the "sfnt", for
TrueType/Type 1 GX fonts).
Ambrose Li
>In article <1996Feb3.1...@sq.com>, l...@sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin) wrote:
>
>>I have lots of pfb files with neither afm nor pfm, generally becuase they
>>came in mac format and I had to convert them to use on Unix, and the AFM
>>files often don't convert...
>
>That's kind of bizarre, since AFM files are just text files.
Yes, very bizarre indeed, especially since I have *no trouble*
converting Mac AFM files into my "Unix" box. Lee, have you
tried the "tr \\r \\n" command? (GNU tr may be required.)
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