need Arial Rounded MT Bold
ME
I need the font Arial Rounded MT Bold really really bad it was on my
system when we had win3.1 when we got win 95 it wasn't there and I
need it because it was one of the fonts in a pagemaker publication I
had finished. Please either post this font or send it to
chod...@foxnet.net
At the Beach
Roger White
a...@worldnet.att.net posted a font file in answer to the following
request:-
an44...@anon.penet.fi (ME) wrote:
>I need the font Arial Rounded MT Bold really really bad it was on my
>system when we had win3.1 when we got win 95 it wasn't there and I
>need it because it was one of the fonts in a pagemaker publication I
>had finished. Please either post this font or send it to
>chod...@foxnet.net
>
Well you certainly don't mess about - Genuine Monotype, complete with
copyright notice as well. Any chance that you could get your message
cancelled as there are some of us who have ethics and don't like to
receive unsolicited pirated software? If you really must distribute
commercial fonts then please do so by email.
Roger W.
Dr. Howard M. Berlin
On Mon, 27 May 1996, Roger White wrote:
> a...@worldnet.att.net posted a font file in answer to the following
> request:-
>
> an44...@anon.penet.fi (ME) wrote:
>
> >I need the font Arial Rounded MT Bold really really bad it was on my
> >system when we had win3.1 when we got win 95 it wasn't there and I
> >need it because it was one of the fonts in a pagemaker publication I
> >had finished. Please either post this font or send it to
> >chod...@foxnet.net
> >
>
Anyone that uses an anonymous remailer such as that Finish penet outfit
should be ignored. Apparently, he or she hasn't the courage to indicate
his/her real identity.
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David Foy
ME wrote:
>
> I need the font Arial Rounded MT Bold really really bad it was on my
> system when we had win3.1 when we got win 95 it wasn't there and I
> need it because it was one of the fonts in a pagemaker publication I
> had finished. Please either post this font or send it to
> chod...@foxnet.net
It's a commercial, copyrighted font and cannot legally be posted or
exchanged. I am taking steps to get At The Beach's post removed
(although it is not likely I can succeed), and would ask you to cancel
your own post. If you're using Netscape Navigator, you can cancel it
from the Edit menu.
Having said that, I can see you are still in a jam. Arial fonts are
presently posted in the TrueType section of Microsoft's web page; you
may find what you want there, and it is legal to download them. I
haven't looked recently so cannot be sure. Other than that, try and find
the Win3.1 software you got rid of, or find some someone else is not
using.
Just out of curiosity, why the anon identity in the same place as an
e-mail address?
David Foy
The font you posted is a copyrighted, commercial product, property of
Monotype Typography. It is illegal to trade, exchange, or distribute it.
If you're using Netscape Navigator, you can cancel your post; the cancel
function is under the edit menu.
Many fonts are freeware or shareware, and can be legally exchanged, but
the comp.fonts newsgroup is not for binary files. Please only post fonts
in alt.binaries.fonts.
Thanks.
David Foy
On The Beach pointed out in private communication that a license to
Windows includes a license to the fonts in it, and said there should be
no impediment to replacing a lost or damaged font, any more than if it
were a lost or damaged DLL.
Assuming the semi-anonymous person who requested the font (and
should definitely not have requested that it be posted) still has a
valid Win 3.1 license (i.e., hasn't cancelled it or transferred it to
someone else) then is it OK to send him a copy of Arial? (I know it's
not OK to post Arial in a public place for free downloading.)
Any opinions?
David Foy
further to At The Beach's posting of the Ariel font:
At The Beach responded by e-mail saying he has removed the post. He also
proposed an interesting justification, which I have encouraged him to
make public here.
Rodger Whitlock
>>
>> It's a commercial, copyrighted font...
>On The Beach pointed out in private communication that a license to
>Windows includes a license to the fonts in it, and said there should be
>no impediment to replacing a lost or damaged font, any more than if it
>were a lost or damaged DLL.
>
>Assuming the semi-anonymous person who requested the font (and
>should definitely not have requested that it be posted) still has a
>valid Win 3.1 license (i.e., hasn't cancelled it or transferred it to
>someone else) then is it OK to send him a copy of Arial? (I know it's
>not OK to post Arial in a public place for free downloading.)
>
>Any opinions?
The Win3.1 core fonts do NOT include Arial *Rounded*, which is distinct
from the Arial "with corners" included with windows.
----
Rodger Whitlock
D.M. Quozl Falk
Microsoft, via their web page and FTP site, does indeed distribute the
fonts normally bundled with Windows freely. I don't have the web page's
URL handy, but it should be reasonably easy to find....
....Quozl!
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David Foy <df...@canuck.com> schrieb:
!Assuming the semi-anonymous person who requested the font (and
!should definitely not have requested that it be posted) still has a
!valid Win 3.1 license (i.e., hasn't cancelled it or transferred it to
!someone else) then is it OK to send him a copy of Arial? (I know it's
!not OK to post Arial in a public place for free downloading.)
!
!Any opinions?
I think it would be legal under the circumstances described above, but
if it turns out that the recipient didn't have a valid licence, who's fault
is it? Do you need to check the validity of the licence before giving away
the font? Since I'm not a lawyer, I don't know the answer.
In any case, some common sense should warn you to give away copyrighted
software to persons you don't know well:
Here in germany there is a famous lawyer, who asks you in a faked letter
(I'm a sixteen year old girl <photo included> and ask you to do me a favour,
please send me the following stuff on diskette...) for copyrighted software,
and after he receives it he sends you an _Abmahnung_ (cost you real money,
typically 2.000 DM) and threatens to sue you (which will cost about ten times
as much) if you don't pay promptly.
--J"org Knappen.
David Foy
Rodger Whitlock wrote:
>
> The Win3.1 core fonts do NOT include Arial *Rounded*, which is > distinct from the Arial "with corners" included with windows.
>
Rounded. ???! Surely it didn't come with ATM. Could it be that we're in
a version warp here? Win 3.11? One of the Win for Workgroups
installations?
Rodger Whitlock
Just checked my WfWG machine here at work: no Arial Rounded. I'll have to
check at home this evening to see if it's there either from being bundled
with something or as part of an MS Font Pack.
Note that MS has now makes available on their ftp site Arial Black,
Impact, and Comic Sans, to accomodate those wishing to specify fonts in
their web documents. But no Arial Rounded.
----
Rodger Whitlock
oups
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> Rodger Whitlock wrote:
> >
> > The Win3.1 core fonts do NOT include Arial *Rounded*, which is
> > distinct from the Arial "with corners" included with windows.
> >
> > ----I haven't used Win3.1 since last August, but I distinctly remember
Arial
> Rounded. ???! Surely it didn't come with ATM. Could it be that we're in
> a version warp here? Win 3.11? One of the Win for Workgroups
> installations?
Not that I remember. I got Arial Rounded MT when I bought
Microsoft Publisher. It was not part of either Windows 3.1 or
Windows for Workgroup 3.11. Only run of the mill Arial were
included in both Windows.
Christian Belisle cbel...@saglac.qc.ca
Jonquiere, Quebec http://www.saglac.qc.ca/~cbelisle/home.html
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ALAN PAUL CHAPMAN
In article <31ADAF...@canuck.com>, David Foy <df...@canuck.com> wrote:
>Rodger Whitlock wrote:
>>
>> The Win3.1 core fonts do NOT include Arial *Rounded*, which is
>> distinct from the Arial "with corners" included with windows.
>>
>> ----I haven't used Win3.1 since last August, but I distinctly remember Arial
>Rounded. ???! Surely it didn't come with ATM. Could it be that we're in
>a version warp here? Win 3.11? One of the Win for Workgroups
>installations?
I believe that Arial Rounded comes with Word for Win v6, that is the only
machines that I have seen it on are the ones with WfW6 on them. It is not
supplied with Win3.1 OR WfWg3.11, to the best of my knowlege.
Alan.
James Andrews
Alan's right. It came with WfW6.0. I didn't have it either until I
installed that.
Jas.
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James Andrews
Philadelphia, PA
and...@ben.dev.upenn.edu
ME
David Foy <df...@canuck.com> wrote:
Because if there are alot of people out there who sometimes disagree
with things I say. That's some peoples own opinion and I have no
problem with that. But there are also people who disagree and think
they should get me (email bomb). I don't feel like bothering with
those types. If they have a problem with me they can send me an email
stating their opinion. just as you have. I don't need to clean up my
mail server because some idiot diagreed with me or just thought it
would be fun to email bomb a few people.
Ron Yost
David Foy <df...@canuck.com> wrote:
>David Foy wrote:
>>
>> ME wrote:
>> >
>> > I need the font Arial Rounded MT Bold really really bad it was on my
>> > system when we had win3.1 when we got win 95 it wasn't there and I
>> > need it because it was one of the fonts in a pagemaker publication I
>> > had finished. Please either post this font or send it to
>> > chod...@foxnet.net
>>
>> It's a commercial, copyrighted font and cannot legally be posted or
>> exchanged. I am taking steps to get At The Beach's post removed
>> (although it is not likely I can succeed), and would ask you to cancel
>> your own post. If you're using Netscape Navigator, you can cancel it
>> from the Edit menu.
>>
Opinions? Yeah - why not use one of the zillions off Swiss-lookalikes and
knockoff's. Arial may be a copyrighted font name, but the style exists in many
forms. Why not just send the poor guy the font in p.d. form? It's not exactly a
'new' or unique (grunge) style. I don't condone posting anything under
copyright, but in this case I truly don't see why we need to get all
anal-retentive about it.
Ron
--
David Foy
the thread so far...
> >> ME wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I need the font Arial Rounded MT Bold really really bad ... I
> >> > need it because it was one of the fonts in a pagemaker publication I
> >> > had finished. Please either post this font or send it to
David Foy responded:
.
> >> It's a commercial, copyrighted font and cannot legally be posted or
Ron Yost weighed in:
.
> ...why not use one of the zillions off Swiss-lookalikes and
> knockoff's. Arial may be a copyrighted font name, but the style exists in many
> copyright, but in this case I truly don't see why we need to get all
> anal-retentive about it.
>
> Ron
His post made it clear that only Arial Rounded Bold would do, and he
asked for it by name, including the MT identifier. It was the rounded
version he wanted, and I don't think there are zillions of rounded Swiss
workalikes. Obviously he didn't know about the copyright stuff.
Your post makes me wonder, though, about exactly how annoyed a company
like Monotype is really entitled to be if they sell all rights to
Microsoft, Microsoft in turn flings the fonts out into the marketplace
like leaves to the autumn winds, for all intents and purposes free, and
then users interpret this to mean the fonts in question are free.
Monotype probably assumed that as soon as they cashed Microsoft's
cheque, it became Microsoft's problem, and Microsoft (other than having
an end-user license agreement) behaves like they don't think it's a
problem.
I think it's worth reminding people that fonts aren't always free, don't
you? Is that a clinically valid symptom of anal retentiveness?
Terry Carroll
On Tue, 04 Jun 1996 05:21:43 GMT, ry...@fix.net (Ron Yost) wrote:
> Arial may be a copyrighted font name...
"Trademarked," not "copyrighted."
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Don Seeley
Rodger Whitlock wrote:
>
> David Foy <df...@canuck.com> wrote:
> >Rodger Whitlock wrote:
> >>
> >> The Win3.1 core fonts do NOT include Arial *Rounded*, which is
> >> distinct from the Arial "with corners" included with windows.
> >
> > remember Arial Rounded. ???! Surely it didn't come with ATM. Could
> >it be that we're in a version warp here? Win 3.11? One of the Win
> >for Workgroups installations?
>
> check at home this evening to see if it's there either from being bundled
> with something or as part of an MS Font Pack.
>
> Note that MS has now makes available on their ftp site Arial Black,
> Impact, and Comic Sans, to accomodate those wishing to specify fonts in
> their web documents. But no Arial Rounded.
>
> ----
Suite. It may or may not occur elsewere, but that is where I encountered
it.
Hope this gets you pionted in the right direction.
