Original Wizardry Disk to .dsk: help!
Calypso
I've been told that the Wizardry I .dsk file on asimov is a 'played'
version. As some of you old timers may recall, Wizardry I has several
special items and occurences which only happen the first time through.
So here's the deal. I actually have an old apple disk of Wizardry I. It
came in a box that I bought as used software, packaged with the pc/pcjr
version. I intended to play the pc version, but didn't have the right
boot drive.
The upshot: I don't know whether the previous owner played the pc or the
apple version! The apple disk I have could be pristine, or it could be
used, and of course after all these years it might have gone bad!
But I would love to get this disk transferred to .dsk format if anyone can
do so for me, so that I can play it through an emulator.
Please email a reply.
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Seymour Joseph
The original Wizardry disk is write protected, and therefore cannot
possible change just because somemone has used it before. In fact,
if the game is NOT write protected, it will think it is a copy
and destroy itself.
Seymour
Edhel Iaur
Seymour Joseph <jos...@synapse.bms.com> wrote:
How copy-protected *is* it? Could SST be used to make a .NIB outta
it?
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Calypso
I'd like to thank everyone for their helpful comments.
To summarize what those comments are:
I'm still being told that the disks at asimov are 'played', and hence
certain special events are not available. The problem is not with the
original apple disks, which are write protected, but the scenario image
uploaded to asimov. The scenario disk that is used for play is created
from (copied from?) side two of the original apple disk. And hence, the
problem *appears* to be that the scenario disk at asimov is a played
duplicate, and not the original (and write protected) scenario disk.
Which leads to a follow-up request -- can anyone upload an original
scenario image for Wizardry I?
I still humbly welcome additional comments if my deductions continue to go
astray.
Lotek
Calypso (cal...@clark.net) wrote:
: [...] And hence, the
: problem *appears* to be that the scenario disk at asimov is a played
: duplicate, and not the original (and write protected) scenario disk.
Yes, that is correct. However, I just tried using the game (U)tilities
to (M)ake a Scenario Disk from the "played" disk. The procedure resulted
in an apparently fresh scenario copy that contained NO saved characters.
A binary comparison of the played scenario master and the newly created
scenario copy showed differences in T00,S05 and most of T1D-1E.
If the "Make Scenario Disk" routine is smart enough to zero out any
existing player characters, perhaps it also resets the special feature
flags.
BTW, what exactly are the special features that only occur during the
first play? I'm curious to see if the above did the trick!
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'Djoe' L. Shippert
In article <lotekDz...@netcom.com>, Lotek <lo...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Calypso (cal...@clark.net) wrote:
>
>BTW, what exactly are the special features that only occur during the
>first play? I'm curious to see if the above did the trick!
I'm guessing that the special items are the things that can only be found
once; the Lord's Garb, Theif's Dagger, and the Murasama (sp?) Blade as
well as others I probably never found.
Although I distinctly remember a LONG time ago, playing it on the orignial
apple II, my party bungled a trap on the 10th level and we were teleported
to the door of Werdna's lair, and the sign said he was OUT. I've never
seen that since.
Anyone know of any other weird occurances in Wizardry I?
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Calypso
Lotek (lo...@netcom.com) wrote:
[edit]
:
: Yes, that is correct. However, I just tried using the game (U)tilities
: to (M)ake a Scenario Disk from the "played" disk. The procedure resulted
: in an apparently fresh scenario copy that contained NO saved characters.
: A binary comparison of the played scenario master and the newly created
: scenario copy showed differences in T00,S05 and most of T1D-1E.
:
: If the "Make Scenario Disk" routine is smart enough to zero out any
: existing player characters, perhaps it also resets the special feature
: flags.
: BTW, what exactly are the special features that only occur during the
: first play? I'm curious to see if the above did the trick!
It's been so long I can't even remember. A wand of fireballs on level
3/4? There are certainly several, I hope someone can tell us. This is
the surest way to test the scenario disk to see if it's been played.
There was a weapon on level one also I think, like a dagger or sword. My
memory is so dim on this you wouldn't believe. I played this waaaaay back
when the game first came out, and my dad paid so much money for the game
at the computer store it is gruesome!
For me the question should be answered soon. I went down to the thrift
shop today and bought an Apple IIe, with dual drives, for 20 bucks. All I
need is a monitor, and a replacement cable to link the drives to the unit,
and I'm set. Assuming this ole fella still works.
If the computer does still work, I'll play it a bit to find a special
event, and then play the asimov version. That should settle it once and
for all.
Of course, finding a replacement cable for a dual drive unit will be hard.
It looks like it is just an ordinary serial cable linking it to the
internal host card. But bloody hell if I know.
- Calypso
Dr. Wolfgang Otrebski
As far as I know, long ago someone cracked the protection of
Wizardry I (.. mad Overlord) and Wizardry II so one could use
copya for disk duplication. The Disks must still be write protected
to start, so STM cannot run them. Patching the check for write access
You can start the game and come to the point where the game asks for
the playable scenario disk - which, of course is checked for being
writable. So there. Until someone devises a "write protect switch"
for the STM drives You will probably have to play it on a hardware ][
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As to
>How copy-protected *is* it? ...
For Wizardry I let me recollect what I have heard about twelve years ago:
The answer is *NO*, no .NIB would be playable. The protection scheme
relies on several tracks being sync'ed against each other in some odd
way and taking the sync timing of two pairs of tracks and checking the
ratio of the delays to eliminate drive speed differences...
Greg Berigan
"Dr. Wolfgang Otrebski" <wolfgang...@siemens.at> wrote:
>Until someone devises a "write protect switch"
>for the STM drives You will probably have to play it on a hardware ][
This triggers the memory of a hardware hack to add an external
write-protect switch to Disk ][ drives. A friend wanted to buy unnotched
disk stock and use the switch to override the lack of a notch on the disk.
Makes flippy disks with a flip and and a switch. Perhaps the interface in
STM could be made like that to keep the illusion. The actual modification
was published somewhere.
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Edhel Iaur
"Dr. Wolfgang Otrebski" <wolfgang...@siemens.at> wrote:
>As far as I know, long ago someone cracked the protection of
>Wizardry I (.. mad Overlord) and Wizardry II so one could use
>copya for disk duplication. The Disks must still be write protected
>to start, so STM cannot run them. Patching the check for write access
>You can start the game and come to the point where the game asks for
>the playable scenario disk - which, of course is checked for being
>writable. So there. Until someone devises a "write protect switch"
>for the STM drives You will probably have to play it on a hardware ][
You can't just lock the disk image file in Finder?
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Dr. Wolfgang Otrebski
some time ago I wrote
> will probably have to play it on a hardware ][
lo...@netcom.com pointed out to me that the change could be made in
memory with the STM debugger as necessary. So, here we go:
_How To Play Wizardry_I on STM_
before playing make a copy of the startup disk image. Byte $14698
of the image should be $30(bmi). Change this to $10(bpl). This will
make the write protect check return "protected". boot the disk &
start the game. when asked to insert the scenario master, do so.
when asked to insert playable scenario disk and hit return, before
hitting return change memory location $B198 back to $30.
have fun and do not lose Your party in the
Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
Above addresses apply to the copy of W_I I got. Did not check out the
images on asimov yet, but it should work. Doing research on W_II now.
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Edhel Iaur
gber...@cse.unl.edu (Greg Berigan) wrote:
>This triggers the memory of a hardware hack to add an external
>write-protect switch to Disk ][ drives. A friend wanted to buy unnotched
>disk stock and use the switch to override the lack of a notch on the disk.
>Makes flippy disks with a flip and and a switch. Perhaps the interface in
>STM could be made like that to keep the illusion. The actual modification
>was published somewhere.
I saw it in _A+_ (or maybe it was _A+/InCider_?). A pretty simple
mod, actually. About all ya need is a switch and a dream...
Matthew Russotto
In article <55bmam$d...@news.emi.com> drsm...@relex.com writes:
}gber...@cse.unl.edu (Greg Berigan) wrote:
}
}>This triggers the memory of a hardware hack to add an external
}>write-protect switch to Disk ][ drives. A friend wanted to buy unnotched
}>disk stock and use the switch to override the lack of a notch on the disk.
}>Makes flippy disks with a flip and and a switch. Perhaps the interface in
}>STM could be made like that to keep the illusion. The actual modification
}>was published somewhere.
}
}I saw it in _A+_ (or maybe it was _A+/InCider_?). A pretty simple
}mod, actually. About all ya need is a switch and a dream...
A switch, a soldering iron, some wire, and a dream. You just wired the switch
in parallel with the microswitch. The microswitch was of the NC variety so
closing the switch made the drive think there was a notch.
Dr. Wolfgang Otrebski
.. a switch, a soldering iron ...
to make it really fancy, You had to have a two-way switch with a third
position (center to A, center to B, all open) to have the switch
"permanent WE" "permanent WP" "do as the notch says" connected
center to electronics board, A to "this side" of the switch and B
to "the other side" of the sensing switch with the connection of
the sensor switch to the electronics board cut
connect vvv vvvvv two way switch w' open position
_________A
----------/ \C--------...to electronics board
\____/____B
^^^original WP sensor closed for WE open for WP