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Marco Verpelli

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Mar 26, 2017, 10:35:53 AM3/26/17
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My 2¢ on the argument.

I don't have a GitHub account so I write here:

OneDrive for Win10 "steal" by default the PrintScreen key, then after a (re)installation of Windows, hit that key and simply say no to the application.

Marco

sicklittlemonkey

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Mar 26, 2017, 4:47:43 PM3/26/17
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On Monday, 27 March 2017 03:35:53 UTC+13, Marco Verpelli wrote:
> OneDrive for Win10 "steal" by default the PrintScreen key, then after a (re)installation of Windows, hit that key and simply say no to the application.

Thanks, I've added your comment to the Github issue.
https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/issues/380

Seems like a common issue:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/onedrive/forum/odoptions-oddesktop/onedrive-has-hijacked-my-print-screen-key/43c40cdb-38ee-4719-afb6-39ae2da71cc9?auth=1

Cheers,
Nick.

johnsonlam.hk

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Mar 28, 2017, 9:51:30 PM3/28/17
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Not only OneDrive, Dropbox also take over the printscreen key, so maybe need to change the code and let users pick another key such as 'Scroll Lock' or 'End'.

denisb...@gmail.com

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Mar 29, 2017, 7:32:56 PM3/29/17
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> Not only OneDrive, Dropbox also take over the printscreen key, so maybe need to change the code and let users pick another key such as 'Scroll Lock' or 'End'.

Dropbox was the problem for me. You can turn the feature off in the Dropbox preferences.

johnsonlam.hk

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Mar 31, 2017, 3:29:19 AM3/31/17
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On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 7:32:56 AM UTC+8, denisb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dropbox was the problem for me. You can turn the feature off in the Dropbox preferences.

One Drive have no option to turn off the printscreen capture, it's better to do it in AppleWin.

Marco Verpelli

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Mar 31, 2017, 3:55:07 AM3/31/17
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> One Drive have no option to turn off the printscreen capture, it's better to do it in AppleWin.

You can choose at the first use, or view then screenshot.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz0ReUsiwYcpRXljU3h6S01OMUk

Find an image translator if you can!

Marco

johnsonlam.hk

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Apr 5, 2017, 12:09:35 AM4/5/17
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Hi,

> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz0ReUsiwYcpRXljU3h6S01OMUk
> Find an image translator if you can!
> Marco

Thank for the screen capture and I did found the option.

My point is these famous program (DropBox and OneDrive) use this key, and many people did prefer this key to work with DropBox, maybe people really enjoy screen capture goes into Dropbox, then why not AppleWin going flexible and provide a chance to change.

Maybe CTRL-PRINTSCREEN or something like that will be fine.

Rgds,
Johnson.

Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev

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Apr 6, 2017, 1:54:18 AM4/6/17
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Since I originally implemented the PrintScreen key capture functionality in 2008 I can shed some additional light on this subject.

Back then DropBox and OneDrive weren't even around so there wasn't an issue of conflicts.

Second, due to Microsoft's inconsistent key handling in Windows we were forced to "register" an event to detect when the PrintScreen key is actually is pressed. Also due to Microsoft's brain-dead design only 1 program can registers this callback instead of properly chaining to ALL listeners. AppleWin detects if someone else has tried to take control of PrintScreen and will inform the user if it is unable to capture the screen -- since someone else already snagged it first. You can disable this via the command line option:

-no-printscreen-dlg

IMHO the proper solution would be to fallback to a "normal" function key -- along with having a menu option to take a screenshot. I'll have to see what function keys (along with Shift, Control, and Alt. options) are available. This would be a good "wishlist" feature to have down the road.

> Maybe CTRL-PRINTSCREEN or something like that will be fine.

Negative (for now.) Currently Ctrl-PrintScreen copies the text screen (it auto detect 40/80 columns) to the clipboard.

Again, ideally the user should be able to configure the two hotkeys they want to use. As noted, currently this is hard-coded. Having custom hotkeys is another "wishlist" feature to have but this will take some time to do properly.

I've amended Git Bug #380 with these feature requests:
https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/issues/380



Brian Patrie

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Apr 7, 2017, 5:51:28 PM4/7/17
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On 2017-04-06 00:54, Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev wrote:
> IMHO the proper solution would be to fallback to a "normal" function
> key -- along with having a menu option to take a screenshot. I'll
> have to see what function keys (along with Shift, Control, and Alt.
> options) are available.

Shift-F6 (or Alt-F6, i suppose) seems apropos, as F6 is already
associated with the screen.

Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev

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Apr 7, 2017, 6:23:32 PM4/7/17
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That's actually not a bad idea Brian! I _really_ like the (base) mapping too since it is screen related.

We can't use Alt due to the it being used as Open-Apple = Joystick Button #1. We also can't use Ctrl-F6, but these are available:

* Shift-F6, and
* Shift-Ctrl-F6 are available.

I'll add this functionality for the next version:

* Shift-F6 Save 560x384 screenshot
* Ctrl-Shift-F6 Copy text screen to clipboard

Does anyone actually use the 280x192 screenshot functionality? I'm assuming that if you are taking screenshots that you probably also already know how to use GIMP or Photoshop. ;-)

Michael J. Mahon

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Apr 8, 2017, 11:45:51 AM4/8/17
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True, but I've used 280x192 to save a step. ;-)

--
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com

sicklittlemonkey

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Apr 8, 2017, 5:04:57 PM4/8/17
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On Sunday, 9 April 2017 03:45:51 UTC+12, Michael J. Mahon wrote:
> Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev wrote:
> > I'll add this functionality for the next version:
> >
> > * Shift-F6 Save 560x384 screenshot
> > * Ctrl-Shift-F6 Copy text screen to clipboard
> >
> > Does anyone actually use the 280x192 screenshot functionality? I'm
> > assuming that if you are taking screenshots that you probably also
> > already know how to use GIMP or Photoshop. ;-)
> >
> True, but I've used 280x192 to save a step. ;-)
>
> --
> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com

If there's config for the keys, we could have config in the same place for the type saved.

Though I've used Image Magick in the past with switches to automate reducing resolution like that. ; - )

Cheers,
Nick.
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