Re: Where is area code 390? [Telecom]
Anthony Bellanga
> 390-599-9148, name "LRG", is apparently violating the
> Do-Not-Call Act. We got a call from a machine that said
> "press 1 to speak to an agent" and did not connect us to
> anyone when we pressed 1. Googling the number, I see that
> others have received similar calls, sometimes very persistently.
It's an out-and-out SCAM which is violting the Do-Not-Call Act.
There is NO area code 390 in the North American network. I also
doubt that this call is coming in from Italy, which is Country
Code +39.
In North America, ALL three-digit area code combinations with a
'9' in the middle digit are RESERVED for use in a future expansion
to a "longer-than-ten-digit" North American number. Thus there is
NO three-digit area code 390, nor any other N9X format three-digit
area code, at least not at this time.
Therefore, this is some obvious $CAM/$CUM trying to evade any
regulatory action against unsolicited calls.
- a/b
hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com
<anthonybella...@gonetoearth.com> wrote:
> Therefore, this is some obvious $CAM/$CUM trying to evade any
> regulatory action against unsolicited calls.
Would the phoneco's Call Trace (1157) yield any better information?
MC
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>> Where is area code 390? Someone whose caller ID data says
>> 390-599-9148, name "LRG", is apparently violating the
>> Do-Not-Call Act. We got a call from a machine that said
>> "press 1 to speak to an agent" and did not connect us to
>> anyone when we pressed 1. Googling the number, I see that
>> others have received similar calls, sometimes very persistently.
>
> It's an out-and-out SCAM which is violting the Do-Not-Call Act.
>
> There is NO area code 390 in the North American network. I also
> doubt that this call is coming in from Italy, which is Country
> Code +39.
At least they've settled on a specific fake caller ID number, then...
I can't find any official listing of area code 390, but I did find this:
http://www.metrodaycare.com/areacode/390
which led me to think it might be a new one.
Don't worry, we have ways of making them tell us who they are, if they call
back...
***** Moderator's Note *****
The number given on that web site goes to the intercept operator here,
so it's a typo. A Google search for "Area Code 390" turned up over
2,000 hits, but the first page was all about telemarketers, so it's
likely that this is a well-known problem.
What I'd like to know is 'How are they spoofing the CID'? If they're
simply resending CID data after the call is answered, I'm not sure
what could be done about that. OTOH, if they're using PRI lines and
misreporting to the IEC, then that's probably actionable.
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If they call back, I may try it.
Steven Lichter
>
> simply resending CID data after the call is answered, I'm not sure
> what could be done about that. OTOH, if they're using PRI lines and
> misreporting to the IEC, then that's probably actionable.
>
A while back I got a call with my own number as the CID, it was a
telemarketer, I have no idea how they did it other then they were behind
a system that allowed setting the number to what was supposed to be the
primary number, I told them I was on the DNC list and not call me again,
nothing since.
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Patrick L. Humphrey
> "Anthony Bellanga" <anthony...@gonetoearth.com> wrote in message
> news:WorldClient-F20081...@gonetoearth.com...
>>> Where is area code 390? Someone whose caller ID data says
>>> 390-599-9148, name "LRG", is apparently violating the
>>> Do-Not-Call Act. We got a call from a machine that said
>>> "press 1 to speak to an agent" and did not connect us to
>>> anyone when we pressed 1. Googling the number, I see that
>>> others have received similar calls, sometimes very persistently.
>>
>> It's an out-and-out SCAM which is violting the Do-Not-Call Act.
>>
>> There is NO area code 390 in the North American network. I also
>> doubt that this call is coming in from Italy, which is Country
>> Code +39.
>
> At least they've settled on a specific fake caller ID number, then...
>
> I can't find any official listing of area code 390, but I did find this:
> http://www.metrodaycare.com/areacode/390
> which led me to think it might be a new one.
>
> Don't worry, we have ways of making them tell us who they are, if they call
> back...
>From what I've seen at a couple of sites, +39 is Italy, and +390 is the
Vatican, even though I don't remember seeing the Vatican with its own
country code.
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Steven Lichter
maintenance end and can't remember how it worked.
John Levine
>> http://www.metrodaycare.com/areacode/390
>> which led me to think it might be a new one.
Nope. All N9X area codes are reserved for the transition to longer
numbers. There is no A/C 390 and never will be.
>From what I've seen at a couple of sites, +39 is Italy, and +390 is the
>Vatican, even though I don't remember seeing the Vatican with its own
>country code.
All landline numbers in Italy start with +390. The Vatican has regular
Rome numbers which start with +3906.
R's,
John
Greg Monti
hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com
wrote:
> ***** Moderator's Note *****
> What I'd like to know is 'How are they spoofing the CID'? . . .
I have no idea how it's done, but there was an article (sorry, I
forgot where) about an 800 service that would spoof the caller-ID "as
a joke".
I always thought caller-ID came out of the ANI, but apparently not. I
have no idea of where it comes from or how it is transmitted. Maybe
someone could explain it in layman's terms.
[Historically, the Bell System was slow in adopting in ANI.
Originally DDD didn't have it. Though crude ANI was developed for
suburban toll calls in the 1940s, as late as 1972 a big city downtown
Centrex was still using ONI (operator requested calling number), even
for suburban message unit calls. I'm not sure if No. 5 crossbar was
initially designed with ANI or not. ]
Ron
>A while back I got a call with my own number as the CID, it was a
>telemarketer, I have no idea how they did it other then they were behind
>a system that allowed setting the number to what was supposed to be the
>primary number, I told them I was on the DNC list and not call me again,
>nothing since.
I'm suprised it worked. That company is already in
violation of FTC regulations. FTC regs require them to
provide their own phone number on caller-ID. Ref:
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/tcpa.html
--
Ron
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hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com
> I'm suprised it worked. That company is already in
> violation of FTC regulations.
I respectfully suggest that being in violation of FTC regulations
means nothing.
Recently I spoke to a friend who was bothered by a telemarketer who
violated numerous FTC regulations (like calling outside the designated
time frame, disregarding do not call, etc.) My friend duly logged the
calls and made a formal complaint.
Nothing was done.
As mentioned earlier, it really appears the telephone company and
regulatory authorities take no action unless there is a high volume of
complaints. (They don't deal with Call Trace until there is a volume
of calls of a violent threat). When cases make the newspaper of a
telemarketer fined for violating the rules, the violations were in the
_thousands_ of calls.
Is anyone aware and can describe where a single complaint by an
individual got action?
Adam H. Kerman
>I always thought caller-ID came out of the ANI, but apparently not. I
>have no idea of where it comes from or how it is transmitted. Maybe
>someone could explain it in layman's terms.
If the caller is behind a private telephone switch, some switches
include user-programmable Caller ID. If it were ANI, the line number of
the outgoing trunk would show up in the display of the called party.
If the caller's extension can be reached as direct inward dial and the
switch is programmed to display the extension as a dialable 10-digit
telephone number on outbound calls, then user-programmable Caller ID can
be used to give useful information. If one is trying to return a call,
knowing the outbound trunk he used isn't helpful.
Sometimes user-programmable Caller ID has a benign purpose.
John Levine
>have no idea of where it comes from or how it is transmitted. Maybe
>someone could explain it in layman's terms.
CLID is supposed to be completely separate from ANI, and is
transported as part of SS#7 messages. ANI is for billing, CLID is for
who's calling.
In a PBX, the ANI can always be the main number since that's where the
calls are billed, while the CLID should identify the extension.
R's,
John
Adam H. Kerman
That doesn't sound correct since ANI shouldn't originate at a PBX. ANI
should be the outgoing trunk. If ANI could originate at the PBX, if the
subscriber screwed with it the telephone company wouldn't be able to
bill properly.
Please don't Cc me.
T
a...@chinet.com says...
We have DID lines in my office but all outbound calls present the main
number as their CLID data. Works for me because I just give out my DID
number anyhow.