CFV: comp.dcom.cabling
Ron Asbestos Dippold
unmoderated group comp.dcom.cabling
Newsgroups line:
comp.dcom.cabling Cabling selection, installation and use.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Jun 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdip...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Alain Fontaine <font...@sri.ucl.ac.be>.
CHARTER
This group provides a forum for the discussion of issues
related to the selection, installation, test and usage of cabling.
Example topics:
- cable specifications
- connector specifications
- structure of cabling sytems
- implementation details
- test apparatus and procedures for cabling
- usage of existing cabling for new applications
- ISO 11801
Justification:
There are several groups in existence where different (local or
non-local) network technologies are discussed. While it has been true
in the past that each network technology did use a specific type of
cabling, the current trend is to wire buildings with some universal
cabling system, and then to use newer variations of the established
networking technologies (like 10baseT for Ethernet) on that universal
cabling.
Cabling systems have thus reached a point where they are independent
of the network technologies. They have their own standards, including
a forthcoming ISO/IEC standard. They should have the same kind of
status in the news, as it should be possible to find a place to
discuss the issues pertaining to that new discipline, independently of
any network architecture.
Additionally, the existing cabling must still be maintained and used
in the best possible way. The same group would also be a place where
more general questions about all cabling issues could be debated.
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Ron Asbestos Dippold
unmoderated group comp.dcom.cabling passes 247:20
There were 247 YES votes and 20 NO votes, for a total of 267 valid votes.
There were 2 invalid ballots.
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Voted Yes
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ae...@freenet.carleton.ca Nigel Allen
akot...@snakemail.hut.fi Asi Kotiharju
alb...@hudlink.hoboken.nj.us Al Berg
al...@stone.ucs.indiana.edu Cell-Relay Gopher Janitor
a...@cup.portal.com
and...@eskinews.eskimo.com Eric Anderson
and...@is.co.za Andras Salamon
an...@spider.co.uk Andy Davis
an...@zoo.toronto.edu Angela Glinos
a...@usgold.demon.co.uk Anthony Hayes
ar...@cs.hut.fi Arttu Laine
au...@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault
axag...@cs.twsu.edu amit agarwal
b...@access.digex.net Bryan A. Ackermann
ba...@spot.Colorado.EDU BARR DOUG
bdb...@maverick1.erenj.com Bryan D. Boyle
b...@netcom.com Brian Del Vecchio
bhu...@wimsey.com bill hughes
Bill....@telematics.com Bill Rohde
Bill=Wen%OS=Quality%Sys=H...@bangate.compaq.com
birc...@pilot.njin.net Shag Aristotelis
b...@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
bo...@aggroup.com Bob Siegel
b...@crl.com Ben R. Adams
br...@fangorn.hacktic.nl Bram Smits
Brian.C...@cern.ch Brian Carpenter CERN-CN
BRI...@sfov1.verifone.com Brian K. Uechi MIS HNL 808-625-3158
Bruce....@hedb.uib.no Bruce Taylor
b...@taz.de $ Burkhard Kohl
bw...@Megatest.COM William Ward
c.spu...@mail.utexas.edu Charles Spurgeon
c...@crabapl.info-gw.mese.com
cca...@ucl.ac.uk Ian Bridge
cco...@vaxd.dct.ac.uk Frazer Greig, University of Abertay Dundee
CCT...@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz Jerry Schave (Network Planner)
cer...@notis.com
CHA...@SATURN.GOV.BC.CA
chr...@TFS.COM Chris Neustrup
Christoph...@cs.kuleuven.ac.be Christophe Huygens
Claude...@dcal.unine.ch Claude Wacker
clst...@mailbox.syr.edu Chris Stamper
col...@esvax.dnet.dupont.com Todd Colvard
CRJC...@delphi.com
cro...@boomah.cs.colorado.edu Matthew Crosby
D.Th...@vthrc.uq.edu.au Danny Thomas
da...@oxygen.aps1.anl.gov Steve Daley
d...@dpcdev.dpcsys.com Dan Busarow
dave....@stpaul.ncr.com David E. Nissen
da...@rochgte.fidonet.org Dave Stoddard
Dave_...@igppqm.ucsd.edu Dave Clark
davi...@tmr.com Bill Davidsen
dcam...@egreen.egreen.wednet.edu David Campbell - CCVSC
d...@Clark-Comm.COM Don Jackson
dco...@clark.net David Conner
d...@hep.net David E. Martin
dge...@mot.com Dave Geurs
di...@ics.forth.gr Demosthenes Panagopoulos
doll...@dkrz.d400.de Ingo Dollbaum
do...@crl.com Steven J Dorst
dris...@interaccess.com Harold A. Driscoll
dsm...@cambium.uoregon.edu Dale Smith
DUR...@Eisner.DECUS.Org Mike Durkin
dwe...@hookup.net Duco W. Weytze
ea...@shakti.ncst.ernet.in Sunil S Apte
Edward....@gsfc.nasa.gov Not *him* again! 286-3047
egam...@ott.hookup.net Evan Gamblin
ela...@iss.nus.sg Elaine Lai
el...@netcom.com Rick Ellis
en...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Julie K. Stahlhut
epe...@CCTuP.entergy.com Earl Perkins
Field...@LGWCT.LOGICA.COM Fieldhouse Dirk
fmsystm!fmsys!macy!telemax.com%wariat.UUCP
font...@sri.ucl.ac.be Alain Fontaine
fo...@cherokee.nsuok.edu Steve Ford
fri...@mtndew.com Stephen J. Friedl
gail...@ina.fr Fabrice GAILLARD
GaLlif!yada...@ERsys.EDmonTON.Ab.cA Dave Shariff Yadallee
gar...@DGS.dgsys.com Gary Brown
gbr...@ivanhoe.EBay.Sun.COM Gary Brooke
gd...@dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk George Ross
gil...@alpha.hendrix.edu Dan Gilliam
ging...@indy.net David C Gingrich
go...@reed.edu Norman Goetz
GUT...@CC1.KULEUVEN.AC.BE Ivo Clarysse
h...@alf.cooper.edu Jeff Hakner
han...@alw.nih.gov Jeff Hancock
hay...@ul.ie James Hayes *
hend...@mln.com Javier Henderson - VMS System Mangler
he...@snipe.cray.com Tom Stephens
HERT...@HOSP.STANFORD.EDU Gene Hertel (415)725-4528
ho...@applicom.co.il Jonathan B Horen
h...@brewhr.swb.de Heiko Rath
hr...@rocza.kei.com Helen Trillian Rose
h...@fuji-ef.nl
h...@netcom.com Harold Hankins
J.C.va...@research.ptt.nl Kees van der Wal
j4...@midway.uchicago.edu mary-frances jagod
jac...@icrl.mew.co.jp Spencer Jackson
j...@fns.com
j...@wedel.hanse.de Jan Hinnerk Haul
Jason....@tiuk.ti.com
jb...@unity.ncsu.edu John Bass
jcha...@indiana.edu John Chambers
j...@rahul.net John C. Simpson
jdl...@orange.digex.net John Dalton
jdu...@rels.ncsa.uiuc.edu Jon Dugan
jel...@blaze.cs.jhu.edu Jeremy Elson
jen...@aimla.com Jennine Townsend
jh...@cscns.com Jack Homa
j...@draco.bison.mb.ca Jim Jaworski
jj...@pitt.edu Jeffrey J. Carpenter
j...@dxcoms.cern.ch johannes joosten
j...@lanman.gsfc.nasa.gov joe dagher
"John Joseph.Lee"@hng0601.wins.icl.co.uk Tel 069
jo...@iastate.edu John Hascall
jo...@gordian.com John Kalucki
JOHN...@COFC.EDU
j...@ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu Jon Dunn
kad...@bud.peinet.pe.ca Kenny Adams
Kalpesh...@ciesin.org Kalpesh Unadkat
kasi...@zrz.tu-berlin.de Dieter Kasielke
kb...@cornell.edu Kevin Baradet
ke...@reseau.toyonaka.osaka.jp Kenji Rikitake
ken...@seafloor.com Tom Kennedy
kev...@sparky.West.Aspect.COM Kevin Collins
kn...@ccmailgate.conware.de KNAPP
koe...@tc.fluke.COM Henriecus Koeman
kor...@hyperion.com Steven Grimm
kt...@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Lau Kwong Tak
Kuy...@sri.ucl.ac.be Jean-Pierre Kuypers
l.gud...@uws.edu.au Lars Gudiksen
L1...@ZFN.UNI-BREMEN.DE Martin Schroeder
la...@dsea.com Dan Lacey
laur...@netcom.com Andrew Laurence
lcu...@net.usp.br Luiz Cunha
l...@hsh.com Lee Havemann
LEO...@Arizona.EDU Aaron Leonard
ler...@netcom.com Leroy Lacy
Les.L...@carleton.edu Les LaCroix
l...@chawan.pc.my Laurence Si
lu...@smd.smd.sublink.org Luciano Mannucci
M.Wil...@cc.uq.oz.au Mark I. Williams
m...@rci.ripco.com Mark A. Cnota
ma...@maelstrom.timeplex.com Andy Malis
ma...@hni.uni-paderborn.de Marc Gumbold
Mark....@m.cc.utah.edu Mark Miller
ma...@dsiinc.com Mark Wood
mat...@solomon.technet.sg Mathias Koerber
mat...@staff.cs.su.oz.au Matthew Geier
mb...@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk
m...@greyskul.intel.com Mike Northam
m...@icarus.lis.pitt.edu Martin Weiss
mic...@hal.com Michael Coxe
mko...@mcs.kent.edu Michael J Kovacs
m...@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
mmu...@KATI.LTRR.Arizona.EDU Martin A.R. Munro
mo...@orange.rtsg.mot.com Wilson Mohr
mphb...@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu Stephen Cristol
mpo...@ewu.edu Mark Powell
mu...@idiom.berkeley.ca.us David Muir Sharnoff
mwi...@ccmail.GSFC.NASA.GOV
nat...@seldon.foundation.tricon.com Number 6
n...@lem.ee.ethz.ch Norbert Hanke
NLK_Con...@mindlink.bc.ca NLK Consultants
no...@ct.covia.com Norm Bartek
orc...@eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu Bruce Orchard
o...@comtch.iea.com Reed Olson
oys...@lightning.powertech.no Oystein Homelien
p00...@psilink.com John M. King
p00...@psilink.com John Powell
p01...@psilink.com Rod Morrill
p01...@psilink.com phil reed
P23...@gegpo7.geg.mot.com Burchfield Michael
p...@cpd.tandem.com
patric...@hq.nols.edu Patrick Clark
PA...@TDR.COM Paul Robinson
pa...@walker.demon.co.uk Paul Walker
p...@wicked.demon.co.uk Phil Packer
pe...@dcsd.sj.nec.com Eladio D. Perez
phe...@smtp.wg.com Kent Phelps
philipp...@sparkhq.fdn.org Philippe Cheve
pie...@edfor.com Pierre Bernatchez
pi...@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au La Monte Yarroll
pl...@cdsmn.mn.org Doug Plate
pm...@is-phantom.gwl.com Paul Mensch
pol...@pluto.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de Armin Pollak
pu...@netcom.com puma
qu...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael J. Quinn
ram...@scr.siemens.com Ramesh Viswanathan
rbe...@xap.xyplex.com Ralph Becker
rcha...@VNET.IBM.COM
re...@kd4lon.speedway.net Bryan Reece
r...@octopus.wr.usgs.gov Rex Sanders
rheb...@goliath.france.NCR.COM
Richar...@koala.adv.magwien.gv.at
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
riku.sa...@compart.fi Riku Saikkonen
rja...@netcom.com Richard James
rjo...@poseidon.usin.com Ry Jones
ro...@muenster.westfalen.de Roger Schwentker
r...@infonaut.com Ron Holt
ros...@iinet.com.au Ross Mitton
ROW...@tne01.tele.nokia.fi KEVIN ROWLAND
rp...@csuchico.edu Ron Pike
r...@zythera.nbg.sub.org Robert Thona
rus...@gcs.co.nz Russell Campbell
SAA...@vms.cis.pitt.edu THE PRINCE
SAGARG%H...@LANDO.HNS.COM Saurabh Garg
sd...@iohk.com Samuel Dennis at Netlab
si...@ccomms.demon.co.uk simon hobson
sp...@lanman.gsfc.nasa.gov Chris Spinolo
st...@INbe.net Stef Van Dessel
st...@rama.demon.co.uk Steve Entwistle
swb...@mcs.com Stuart Brainerd
swe...@isumataq.eskimo.com Steve Webert
sy...@tjuvm.tju.edu
t09...@sirius.ksc.nasa.gov Brian Chase
ta...@solomon.technet.sg Tan Wea Aik
tglo...@cisco.com Tom Glodowski
th...@snakemail.hut.fi Tomi H Engdahl
tho...@lkg.dec.com Matt Thomas
thom...@sgate.com Stu Thomason
thom...@ledger.mis.co.forsyth.nc.us Robert B. Thompson (727-2597 x3012)
tom.m...@gsfc.nasa.gov Tom Maufer
TPM...@vm1.ulg.ac.be Albert Van de Paar
tr...@tc.fluke.COM Mike Treseler
t...@netcom5.netcom.com
ums0...@CC.UManitoba.CA
unix...@SynOptics.COM
up...@king.mcs.drexel.edu Paul Siu
UST...@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU Joyce Iannuzzi
uswnvg!gho...@uunet.uu.net Gary Howard
ve...@cedar.buffalo.edu Jason Verch
ver...@enserb.u-bordeaux.fr
VERST...@rulfsw.LeidenUniv.nl
via...@adele.ens-cachan.fr Bruno Viaris
vraho...@inland.com
wb8...@netcom.com David Lesher
we3...@is1.bfu.vub.ac.be DE KERPEL SVEN
wep...@itwol.bhp.com.au Mark Paine
wey...@mcs.com Richard F. Weyand
wfe...@cpcug.org Bill Feidt
will...@ecid.cig.mot.com Martin J.G. Williams
wi...@ratree.psu.ac.th Wipat SRUTIPROM
wys...@datalife.com Chris Wysocki
yor...@halla.dacom.co.kr Youngok Rhee
Voted No
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ante...@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Stefan Antersberger
cjac...@csugrad.cs.vt.edu Chris "Now uses a mac" Jackson
crou...@flidh102.delcoelect.com
crp...@erfsys01.boeing.com Chris Payne
ctw...@dal.mobil.com CONT C.T. Ward [Chris]
eei...@eeiub.ericsson.se John Evans
fs...@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Sean P. Ryan
hs...@ludd.luth.se Roger H}kansson
jg...@netcom.com Jeremy Grodberg
j...@cbnewsb.att.com
j...@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson
pas...@mathworks.com
sia...@kaiwan.com Siamak Ansari
sma...@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd
stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown
s...@valinor.mythical.com Stu Labovitz
tble...@CHS.CUSD.Claremont.Edu Tom Bleakney
tef...@cs690-3.erie.ge.com Andrew R. Tefft
V134...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu DAVE GUGLIELMI
WA...@ernie.van.forintek.ca Ward F. Bush
Votes in error
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