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John Stogoski

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Dec 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/4/96
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Can someone point me to some detailed documentation on the VIP cards? I
have a customer who is interested in installing one in a 7010. I read in
the configuration documentation that the 7010 with a RP and SP is
supported. However, I also read in the product catalog that the RSP7000
upgrade is required to take advantage of advanced VIP features. I am
trying to determine the level of functionality that can be expected with
the different hardware configurations.

Also, I understand that the VIPs have been replaced by the VIP2's. The
customer has requested the VIP-FE-TX/4E. Is this the old VIP product
number? Should we be getting the VIP2-20 with VIP2 Port Adapters?

Thanks,
John

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John Stogoski Tele#: 703-689-7861
Sprint, Contract Engineering Fax: 703-689-5697
Reston, VA e-mail: stog...@hawk.sprintmrn.com
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Marty Martinez

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Dec 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/4/96
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Hi John,

You are correct. The original VIPs:

VIP-FE-TX
VIP-FE-TX/FE-TX
VIP-FE-TX/4E
VIP-4E/4T
VIP-4R/4T

are no longer available. You will need to order VIP2s and port adaptors. You
are also correct in that the VIP2s are not supported by 70X0 RP/SP systems.
An RSP7000 is the minimum requirement in a 70X0 system to utilize any VIP2,
while all 7500 systems support the VIP2.

There is some installation/configuration info available for the VIP2 and
port adaptors at:

http://cio.cisco.com/univercd/data/doc/hardware/fusion/vip2.htm

Product catalog and announcements:

http://cio.cisco.com/warp/public/733/VIP/index.html

Marty

Paul Panzl

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Dec 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/5/96
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John Stogoski wrote:
>
> Can someone point me to some detailed documentation on the VIP cards? I
> have a customer who is interested in installing one in a 7010. I read in
> the configuration documentation that the 7010 with a RP and SP is
> supported. However, I also read in the product catalog that the RSP7000
> upgrade is required to take advantage of advanced VIP features. I am
> trying to determine the level of functionality that can be expected with
> the different hardware configurations.
>
> Also, I understand that the VIPs have been replaced by the VIP2's. The
> customer has requested the VIP-FE-TX/4E. Is this the old VIP product
> number? Should we be getting the VIP2-20 with VIP2 Port Adapters?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> John Stogoski Tele#: 703-689-7861
> Sprint, Contract Engineering Fax: 703-689-5697
> Reston, VA e-mail: stog...@hawk.sprintmrn.com
> ________________________________________________________________________

Please see:

http://cco/warp/public/733/VIP/index.html

.. .. Paul Panzl
|| || Global Support Engineer
|| || RTP Technical Support Ctr.
|||| |||| Phone: 919.472.2864 Fax: 919.472.2963
.:||||||:..:||||||:. email: ppa...@cisco.com
Cisco Systems, Inc.

Bryan Smith

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Dec 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/5/96
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How about www.cisco.com. I think you'll find most of what you need
there.

Bryan


On 4 Dec 1996, John Stogoski wrote:


>
> Can someone point me to some detailed documentation on the VIP cards? I
> have a customer who is interested in installing one in a 7010. I read in
> the configuration documentation that the 7010 with a RP and SP is
> supported. However, I also read in the product catalog that the RSP7000
> upgrade is required to take advantage of advanced VIP features. I am
> trying to determine the level of functionality that can be expected with
> the different hardware configurations.

Bryan Smith
Data Communications, IS
University of Maryland At Baltimore
bsm...@comm1tmp.ab.umd.edu

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Rafael Muller

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Dec 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/5/96
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http://cco.cisco.com/warp/public/733/VIP/index.html

Raf
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Rafael J. Muller || ||
Customer Support Engineering || ||
cisco Systems |||| ||||
7025 Kit Creek Rd. .:||||||:.:||||||:.
RTP, NC. 27709 cisco Systems email: rmu...@cisco.com

On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Paul Panzl wrote:

> John Stogoski wrote:
> >
> > Can someone point me to some detailed documentation on the VIP cards? I
> > have a customer who is interested in installing one in a 7010. I read in
> > the configuration documentation that the 7010 with a RP and SP is
> > supported. However, I also read in the product catalog that the RSP7000
> > upgrade is required to take advantage of advanced VIP features. I am
> > trying to determine the level of functionality that can be expected with
> > the different hardware configurations.
> >

Rafael Muller

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Dec 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/7/96
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Jack Chludzinski

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Dec 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/9/96
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John Stogoski wrote:
>
> Can someone point me to some detailed documentation on the VIP cards? I
> have a customer who is interested in installing one in a 7010. I read in
> the configuration documentation that the 7010 with a RP and SP is
> supported. However, I also read in the product catalog that the RSP7000
> upgrade is required to take advantage of advanced VIP features. I am
> trying to determine the level of functionality that can be expected with
> the different hardware configurations.
>
> Also, I understand that the VIPs have been replaced by the VIP2's. The
> customer has requested the VIP-FE-TX/4E. Is this the old VIP product
> number? Should we be getting the VIP2-20 with VIP2 Port Adapters?
>

Hi John,

I know what you're talking about. I've been trying to point myself to
some detailed documentation as well for a while now. I too would
appreciate info both on basic function and monitoring of a VIP and those
fancy advanced features.

I'd very much like to know more but I think the following is the case
today.
-VIPs (really only VIP2s today) are little more than modular IPs.
You'll notice that -40 models are required for Distributed Services and
as far as I know these are not yet available. That means no DS. With the
latest IOS 11.2(2), only IP is supported under the Distributed Switching
(DSW) feature.
-VIPs really don't have any monitoring commands yet over and above
those for a regular IP.

Nonetheless, VIP2 have some important things going for them that
convinced me to buy them instead of IPs on our new 7513 (sure wish Cisco
had a PRI port adapter).
-In the -10 flavor, they cost about the same as an equivalent IP. You
can always upgrade, just add memory.
-You can configure certain interfaces more densely on your router.
-Sparing is easier because of the modularity.
-If not today, more advanced features will be available in the future.
I imagine IP DSW that's now available can on its own sell VIP2s to those
with loaded IP core networks.

I'm sure you'll double check if VIP2s can be used with a 7000 processor
at all, and if possible, even without the advanced features it might
benefit you to use them like I do. That 7000RSP upgrade is not cheap
though if you need it, you'll notice in the price list that a 7010
chassis ($6000) plus an uprade ($15000) is more than a new 7507
($19900). Maybe you can get a 7507 with the VIP2s you need, move
appropriate IPs to the 7507, and put the 7010 to work elsewhere in your
network.

--
Jack Chludzinski
Programmer Analyst II
City of Long Beach, Telecommunications Bureau
email: jac...@gte.net

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