Stooooopid people who wrote Qmodem
Shahid Ikram Butt
After spending hours of my quality time to configure Qmodem right I'd
like to know where do the people who wrote it live ? I'd like to line
them all up and launch a rocket at them. If I get a chance I would also kill
the person who decided to bundle it with my modem.
If you are wondering why. Here is the reason :
I usually use my computer to login to a Unix machine. I use up arrow
keys in VT-100 to repeat commands, in lynx I use it to jump between different
highlited items etc etc. Qmodem wouldn't let me use the up arrow key. Because
for some weird reason it pulls up the buffer page. I have read all the docs
all ths system settings all help pages and zilch. I came up with nothing.
I sure can turn the buffering off but that doesn't stop the stupid up arrow
key from saying "no data in buffer".
I would like to know how could anybody be so stupid to think that no one
would ever need the arrow keys for anything.
I would recommend everybody to stay the hell away from anything that comes
from Mustang software. Gives me another reason to not like Ford Mustangs.
Shahid
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Bill Broadley
> would ever need the arrow keys for anything.
I ran an OLD version of qmodem. It allowed use of the arrow
keys via loading a new key macro called vt-100.key.
BTW The new ford mustang is a pretty awesome car.
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Shahid Ikram Butt
>> I would like to know how could anybody be so stupid to think that no one
>> would ever need the arrow keys for anything.
>BTW The new ford mustang is a pretty awesome car.
Its *NOT* better than my STEALTH :)
Christian Kral
:
: I usually use my computer to login to a Unix machine. I use up arrow
: keys in VT-100 to repeat commands, in lynx I use it to jump between different
: highlited items etc etc. Qmodem wouldn't let me use the up arrow key. Because
: for some weird reason it pulls up the buffer page. I have read all the docs
: all ths system settings all help pages and zilch. I came up with nothing.
:
: Shahid
: _____________...@Ra.Msstate.Edu____________________________
: Cruising Information Super Highway
: WWW : http://www.msstate.edu/~sib1
Did you try the doorway mode of Qmodem? As far as I remember you have to press
the ALT key togehter with the '=' key. All key strokes are then passed through
(except the mentioned key combination that turns doorway mode off again, but
look it up to be sure its the right one).
In case of problems with the data sent to the Unix machine by your PC you have
to use the outgoing transfer table of Qmodem. There you can change every code
sent to the modem.
(BTW: There is also an incoming translating table for the vice-versa function)
Another way is to define a certain function key and save it in the key configuration
file.
I like Qmodem because of its great features. Of course, it took me a while to
read all of the online help ..... :)
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Christian.
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Bill
Try to reset the key-mapping table. Or, just get telemate 4.12 (shareware)
and there you go! No problems at all!
Good luck!
Bill
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Christopher Haddan
> "si...@Ra.MsState.Edu (Shahid Ikram Butt)" says:
> I usually use my computer to login to a Unix machine. I use up arrow
> keys in VT-100 to repeat commands, in lynx I use it to jump between different
> highlited items etc etc. Qmodem wouldn't let me use the up arrow key. Because
> for some weird reason it pulls up the buffer page. I have read all the docs
> all ths system settings all help pages and zilch. I came up with nothing.
> I sure can turn the buffering off but that doesn't stop the stupid up arrow
> key from saying "no data in buffer".
>
> I would like to know how could anybody be so stupid to think that no one
> would ever need the arrow keys for anything.
>
> I would recommend everybody to stay the hell away from anything that comes
> from Mustang software. Gives me another reason to not like Ford Mustangs.
You don't say which version you are using.
I am using Qmodem 4.5 test drive.
load the setup program (Alt-N)
then goto the menu: Options -> Toggles -> and set Keypad_Emulation = ON
After you do this, then when your on-line, and Num_lock is ON, it will
send the proper escape sequences for the arrow-keys in Vt100. If
Num-Lock is off, it will do the scroll back buffer thing.
Note, this only works with the arrow keys on the key-pad portion of the
keyboard. If you are talking about the separate cluster of
up/down/left/right keys, I think your out of luck, those probably
can't be used for vt100 cursor positioning.
Dan Lawrence
Shahid Ikram Butt <si...@Ra.MsState.Edu> wrote:
>
>I usually use my computer to login to a Unix machine. I use up arrow
>keys in VT-100 to repeat commands, in lynx I use it to jump between different
>highlited items etc etc. Qmodem wouldn't let me use the up arrow key. Because
>for some weird reason it pulls up the buffer page. I have read all the docs
>all ths system settings all help pages and zilch. I came up with nothing.
>I sure can turn the buffering off but that doesn't stop the stupid up arrow
>key from saying "no data in buffer".
There is a switch in the configuration that reads something like num
lock sends actual codes. If this is set to on, then when you num lock
light is light, the numeric keypad works as a full set of terminal arrow
keys. You can still use the other arrow keys to access the scroll back
buffer. I haven't used qmodem for a couple of months since I switched
to Procom plus for windows.
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>
> I usually use my computer to login to a Unix machine. I use up arrow
> keys in VT-100 to repeat commands, in lynx I use it to jump between different
> highlited items etc etc. Qmodem wouldn't let me use the up arrow key. Because
> for some weird reason it pulls up the buffer page. I have read all the docs
> all ths system settings all help pages and zilch. I came up with nothing.
> I sure can turn the buffering off but that doesn't stop the stupid up arrow
> key from saying "no data in buffer".
>
> I would like to know how could anybody be so stupid to think that no one
> would ever need the arrow keys for anything.
>
> I would recommend everybody to stay the hell away from anything that comes
> from Mustang software. Gives me another reason to not like Ford Mustangs.
Hmm.. Did ya try selecting VT-100 EMULATION?!?!?!
QModem (*THE* term program) allows you to assign most of the keyboard like
ya would assign function keys (macros). When your in ANSI the up arrow is
defined as @SCROLLBACK when your in VT-100 it defined as ^[[A (ANSI up arrow)
If ya switch to VT-100 Emulation it should work!!
- Marc
[BTW - The Mustang is one damned awesome car... just wait for the Mach 3!]
William Che
Huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh
> I usually use my computer to login to a Unix machine.
heh heh. What do you do with your computer when you're not jacking in
to it? huh huh.
[...]
> I would like to know how could anybody be so stupid to think that no one
> would ever need the arrow keys for anything.
If you're so smart then go and write your own cummunication program
that fingers you, as well as using the up arrow going UP.
> I would recommend everybody to stay the hell away from anything that comes
> from Mustang software. Gives me another reason to not like Ford Mustangs.
Hmmm... You probably work for Microsoft's new ermmm... Microsoft
Cums project, that's going to blow all other comm. programs. So when are
you going to set your flaims on Procomm Plus?
P.S. I don't work for any of the above mentioned companies. I just don't
like to see stupid people calling someone smarter than them stupid.... or
soemthing. huh huh
Peter da Silva
Dan Lawrence <d...@chinook.halcyon.com> wrote:
> There is a switch in the configuration that reads something like num
> lock sends actual codes. If this is set to on, then when you num lock
> light is light, the numeric keypad works as a full set of terminal arrow
> keys. You can still use the other arrow keys to access the scroll back
> buffer.
Oh great. This is EXACTLY backwards from the way NUM LOCK is supposed to work.
> I haven't used qmodem for a couple of months since I switched
> to Procom plus for windows.
Of course Procomm uses ` to pull down a menu, and while you can change that
you have to change it to another printable character.
Is there anyone out there that can write a DOS terminal program that's worth
a damn? I've tried QMODEM, I've tried PROCOMM, I've tried all the "free" ones
you get when you buy a modem. Commercial or free, the only one that doesn't
mess up the keyboard SOMEHOW is Kermit... and it doesn't support any file
transfer protocol than Kermit!
(why do I care? I occasionally have to use DOS machines as dumb terminals)
Alan Brown
Christian Kral <c...@auto.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>I like Qmodem because of its great features. Of course, it took me a while to
>read all of the online help ..... :)
If you like Qmodem, you'll *love* Telemate.
I've recommended Telemate to all my users running Qmodem or Procomm
and found that all of them who tried it stayed with it.
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Better take it easy with that Uzo, William! You're starting to sound
coherent.
mike
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>Is there anyone out there that can write a DOS terminal program that's worth
>a damn? I've tried QMODEM, I've tried PROCOMM, I've tried all the "free" ones
>you get when you buy a modem. Commercial or free, the only one that doesn't
>mess up the keyboard SOMEHOW is Kermit... and it doesn't support any file
>transfer protocol than Kermit!
>
>(why do I care? I occasionally have to use DOS machines as dumb terminals)
Try ZCOMM. You can configure the keyboard the way you want.
The ZCOMM files are available on Compuserve SCOFORUM, UNIXFORUM,
IBMCOM, Genie IBM PC RT, TeleGodzilla 503-621-3746, or ftp
Oak.oakland.edu: pub/msdos/zmodem:
zcommdoc.zip zcommexe.zip zcommhlp.zip
ZMODEM for VAX/VMS is located in the pub/misc/vaxvms directory: rzsz9405.tlb
On TeleGodzilla RZSZ.TLB is in the upgrade/vms subdirectory.
The newest FTP site is ftp.cs.pdx.edu (131.252.20.12). The pub/zmodem
directory contains the largest and most up-to-date collection of RZ/SZ,
DSZ, GSZ, ZCOMM and Professional-YAM files of any FTP site.
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jdco...@nova.wright.edu
> a damn? I've tried QMODEM, I've tried PROCOMM, I've tried all the "free" ones
> you get when you buy a modem. Commercial or free, the only one that doesn't
> mess up the keyboard SOMEHOW is Kermit... and it doesn't support any file
> transfer protocol than Kermit!
>
> (why do I care? I occasionally have to use DOS machines as dumb terminals)
With Qmodem Pro (and probably Qmodem too) you can redefine any key other than
the normal letter and number keys. So, Qmodem should be able to adapt to
anything you want it to do!
- Marc
Paul Hardy
> I have read all the docs
>all ths system settings all help pages and zilch. I came up with nothing.
>I sure can turn the buffering off but that doesn't stop the stupid up arrow
>key from saying "no data in buffer".
Page 90: "The @SCROLLBACK meta-character can be assigned to another key,
if desired, by using the Function Key screen. The GREY UP ARROW key always
sends theh "Up Arrow" code,... without using Doorway mode."
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Spiros Triantafyllopoulos
>>a damn? I've tried QMODEM, I've tried PROCOMM, I've tried all the "free" ones
>>you get when you buy a modem. Commercial or free, the only one that doesn't
>>mess up the keyboard SOMEHOW is Kermit... and it doesn't support any file
>>transfer protocol than Kermit!
Kermit, man. Kermit.
my wife and I spend quite a bit of time online; for interactive use nothing
is better. For file transfers, which I do once in a while, fine. Not for
the newbie, though.
So far, the best terminal emulation I've seen (and I've seen them all), and
TEK mode which noone else has (handy).....
Spiros
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GUS RuleZ!
Try Crosstalk Communicator (DOS). I love this soft, although I don't like
the Windows version. Procomm for Windows is my choice for Windows, and
CC for DOS. I've tried Telemate, and I prefer CC.
Although I have Windows and OS/2 comm soft, I still use this CC
in DOS if I don't need to do multitasking.
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GUS RuleZ! (r...@iastate.edu) wrote:
: In article <id.RQH...@nmti.com> pe...@nmti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
: >In article <2r1iis$g...@nwfocus.wa.com>,
: >Dan Lawrence <d...@chinook.halcyon.com> wrote:
: Try Crosstalk Communicator (DOS). I love this soft, although I don't like
: the Windows version. Procomm for Windows is my choice for Windows, and
: CC for DOS. I've tried Telemate, and I prefer CC.
: Although I have Windows and OS/2 comm soft, I still use this CC
: in DOS if I don't need to do multitasking.
WHY?
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Hello,
What does Crosstalk Communicator (DOS) have that telemate doesn't?
Frank
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Wolfgang Henke
: After spending hours of my quality time to configure Qmodem right I'd
: like to know where do the people who wrote it live ? I'd like to line
: them all up and launch a rocket at them. If I get a chance I would also kill
: the person who decided to bundle it with my modem.
Shahid,
this is a frequently asked question. Like many users have pointed
out, you have to turn the keypad emulation ON in the configuration.
Most keyboards have two diamonds with cursor keys. You then have one
set of arrow keys for local (scrolling back etc) and one for remote
like controlling the cursor within vi.
Maybe a more general note. Consider joining one of the larger online
services, like Netcom. If you pose a question like this in the local
netcom groups you most likley will have a few good answers within half
an hour. No need to reinvent the wheel.
I have used Qmodem since version 2.0. Now I use 4.52. It's without
question the comm program I use most often on IBM compatibles.
It was written by a fine programmer, John Friel, and later got bought
out by Mustang.
Cheers,
Wolfgang
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Dave Ratcliffe
- > "si...@Ra.MsState.Edu (Shahid Ikram Butt)" says:
- ^^^^
- Huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh
[remainder of drivel deleted]
William, if you expect people to pay attention to anything you have to
say, try acting like an adult.
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