How can I get fast net access in the boonies?
Brian Kendig
in the beautiful little town of Celebration. This town was planned by
Disney, and built on Disney property, and it's got that typical Disney
attention to detail in all aspects except its (lack of) broadband access.
This town has its own cable company which isn't taking any new cable modem
customers. It also has its own phone company which has no plans to offer
DSL. I think I'll suffer greatly having to move from a 1.5Mbit ADSL
connection to a 56k modem, so I need your help!
Are there any ways that I can get high-speed Internet access on my own,
either for a somewhat reasonable price or for a higher price that I'll be
able to share with my neighbors?
Someone suggested I could run a T1 line from the phone office to my home,
and then offer wireless access to my neighbors... but I don't know if the
phone company would even consider giving me a T1 line. Other people have
suggested I start up a 'Virtual ISP', but I'm not familiar with what that is
or how it would benefit me. Is satellite access even remotely feasible?
Also, is there another newsgroup which would be more appropriate for this
question? Thank you for any help you can provide!
--
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Rob
they have the service, they just aren't signing on new people? If so, I'd
focus on beg/bribe/pleading with the cable company to get service.
You should also write to whatever division of Disney that owns the land.
You'd be surprised how much you can get accomplished. I live in a planned
community called Valencia in California, owned by Newhall Land. Newhall
Land actually has a deal with Pacific Bell to get DSL to all new homes in
Valencia, and to get it to all existing homes by the end of 2000.
Apparently the home buyers have made it known that broadband is an important
resource to them, and they've acted accordingly. Bring up the merits of how
broadband enhances education. That should appeal to the Mouse.
Also, just becasue they tell you they have "no plans" doesn't mean anything.
MediaOne was in the middle of rolling out cablemodems in my town when a
friend of mine bought a home in a Time Warner area. He inquired about
cablemodem, and they told him they had "no plans". Well, I patiently
waited and waited for the rollout to make it to my street. He ended up with
cablemodem service before I did!
As for satellite, apparently they'll be coming out with two way service
soon. But bouncing your web requests into space is prohibitively slow (high
latency) because of the speed of light and the distance to a geostationary
satellite. Using dial-up with satellite helps reduce this a bit, but then
again, you have to dial-up (eww..)
-- Rob
"Brian Kendig" <brian-...@enchanter.net> wrote in message
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Bill Coggin
(something granted them by the county as a concession to get them to build
near Orlando). They also have their own police department, fire department,
heck they even make a lot of their own power - as they are a private
corporation, you don't get a say in much.
You will find a lot of things that way, you just became the littlest fish in
a big ol giant pond. Good luck to ya! :)
Yeah you can do direct PC (they don't have control of that (well yet anyway
:)
Paul Szymczuk
to be out in Early or late September....this is a "2-way" satlelite internet
provider....so both downstream and upstream go through the satlelite.
It will have speeds comparable to DSL. It is for those that can not get
either Cable modem access or DSL access. I think the price is somewhere
around $59-$69/month.
check out: http://www.dishnetwork.com
Mikie
http://www.celebrationfl.com/press_room/faq09.html
-- Ask Him for your password.
The community intranet site, known as the Front Porch, provides a forum for
information on community events, news, clubs and civic groups. Each resident is
given a personal password for access to the residents-only Front Porch.
The Walt Disney Company / Celebration Development (CELEBRATIONFL-DOM)
500 S. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521
Domain Name: CELEBRATIONFL.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact, Billing Contact:
Registrar, Domain (RD210-ORG) domain.r...@ONLINE.DISNEY.COM
Disney Online
Attn Phil Wahl 500 S Buena Vista Street
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818.623.3325
Fax- 818.623.3555
Noted_Kevin
"Bill Coggin" <BillC...@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Your pretty much SOL with Disney. They are their own municipality
> (something granted them by the county as a concession to get them to build
> near Orlando). They also have their own police department, fire
department,
> heck they even make a lot of their own power - as they are a private
> corporation, you don't get a say in much.
>
> You will find a lot of things that way, you just became the littlest fish
in
> a big ol giant pond. Good luck to ya! :)
>
> Yeah you can do direct PC (they don't have control of that (well yet
anyway
> :)
>
Rob
I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
-- Rob
"Bud the Real" <the...@san.rxyzr.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul Szymczuk" <p.szy...@gte.nospam.net> hollered from the outhouse...
>
> >Yes, the DishNetowrk Gillat is a great system.... I think it is
scheduled
> >to be out in Early or late September....this is a "2-way" satlelite
internet
> >provider....so both downstream and upstream go through the satlelite.
>
> But he'll be in a 'planned community', and that plan probably doesn't
allow
> for sat dishes.
>
>
>
>
> To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
>
> Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
Lars M. Hansen
>Actually, it's illegal for a homeowners association to ban satellites. If
>I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
>
>-- Rob
>
I believe a HA can ban anything they damn please. If they can ban rose
bushes, pink flamingo lawn ornaments and HAM radio antennas, they can
ban satellite dishes.
lars
larsm...@netscape.net
http://lmhansen.tzo.com
Rob
;-)
-- Rob
"Bud the Real" <the...@san.rxyzr.com> wrote in message
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> "Rob" <do_not_dj...@mediaone.net> hollered from the outhouse...
>
> >Actually, it's illegal for a homeowners association to ban satellites.
If
> >I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
>
> For television, maybe. But I doubt you'd make a case for an Internet
dish.
Rob
that's how I found out about this tidbit to begin with.
From DirecTV's website:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
My homeowners' association has some rules about what's placed outside our
house. Are there regulations that supersede these restrictions?
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has a rule that generally
forbids local governments and homeowners associations from preventing
installation of DBS dishes one meter or smaller in size (in Alaska, the dish
size limit does not apply).
For more information, please check our website or the FCC's website at
www.fcc.gov.
"Lars M. Hansen" <larsm...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 02:13:22 GMT, Rob spoketh
>
> >Actually, it's illegal for a homeowners association to ban satellites.
If
> >I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
> >
Bill Coggin
This is a fact. I recently sold a house in a community that actually had a
homeowners restriction against any sale to anyone not of the Caucasian race
(no, I swear this is for real). Didn't make it right or enforceable.
People can say anything they want, homeowners can say anything they want, it
don't make it so. Period.
"Rob" <do_not_dj...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, it's illegal for a homeowners association to ban satellites.
If
> I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
>
> -- Rob
>
> "Bud the Real" <the...@san.rxyzr.com> wrote in message
> news:a2a1ps89osrbmtk4b...@4ax.com...
> > "Paul Szymczuk" <p.szy...@gte.nospam.net> hollered from the
outhouse...
> >
> > >Yes, the DishNetowrk Gillat is a great system.... I think it is
> scheduled
> > >to be out in Early or late September....this is a "2-way" satlelite
> internet
> > >provider....so both downstream and upstream go through the satlelite.
> >
> > But he'll be in a 'planned community', and that plan probably doesn't
> allow
> > for sat dishes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
Bill Coggin
Disney, back when Nunis was running things. I did commercial real estate
in that area for a lot years later on. I was doing commercial real estate
when Compass Rose and other shell corp.'s were buying up land between Disney
and Highway 27. Heck Mr. Allen lived just down the street from me in
Windermere. I know about you guys, trust me =)
"Mikie" <ugo_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ron Hunter
ghost town. Be real.
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@home.com
"Lars M. Hansen" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 02:13:22 GMT, Rob spoketh
>
> >Actually, it's illegal for a homeowners association to ban satellites. If
> >I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
> >
> >-- Rob
> >
>
Evan Radecki
Rob wrote:
> Tell 'em it's for TV. It'll take them YEARS to figure out what it really is
> ;-)
>
> -- Rob
>
> "Bud the Real" <the...@san.rxyzr.com> wrote in message
> news:52j1ps06nrbrnmiu7...@4ax.com...
> > "Rob" <do_not_dj...@mediaone.net> hollered from the outhouse...
> >
> > >Actually, it's illegal for a homeowners association to ban satellites.
> If
> > >I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
> >
> > For television, maybe. But I doubt you'd make a case for an Internet
> dish.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Rob
-- Rob
"Bill Coggin" <BillC...@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> No homeowners or condo association can ban satellite dishes of the DTV
sort.
> This is a fact. I recently sold a house in a community that actually had
a
> homeowners restriction against any sale to anyone not of the Caucasian
race
> (no, I swear this is for real). Didn't make it right or enforceable.
> People can say anything they want, homeowners can say anything they want,
it
> don't make it so. Period.
>
> "Rob" <do_not_dj...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:673k5.63553$LE.3...@typhoon.we.rr.com...
> > Actually, it's illegal for a homeowners association to ban satellites.
> If
> > I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
> >
> > -- Rob
> >
> > "Bud the Real" <the...@san.rxyzr.com> wrote in message
> > news:a2a1ps89osrbmtk4b...@4ax.com...
> > > "Paul Szymczuk" <p.szy...@gte.nospam.net> hollered from the
> outhouse...
> > >
> > > >Yes, the DishNetowrk Gillat is a great system.... I think it is
> > scheduled
> > > >to be out in Early or late September....this is a "2-way" satlelite
> > internet
> > > >provider....so both downstream and upstream go through the satlelite.
> > >
> > > But he'll be in a 'planned community', and that plan probably doesn't
> > allow
> > > for sat dishes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
Kerry Sanders
|>I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
|>
|
|bushes, pink flamingo lawn ornaments and HAM radio antennas, they can
|ban satellite dishes.
You are correct... if they so desire to put it in their bylaws for the
community, the home association can ban the use of satellite dishes. However,
with that said, most home associations ban the larger C-band satellite dishes
and the smaller 18" or smaller dishes like you get with DirecTV and Dish
Network are generally OK.
Dave
DirecDuo is for 1 way internet and TV.
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 14:48:08 GMT, Evan Radecki <ev...@optonline.net>
wrote:
>Or get the "DirecDuo" (both TV and internet, 1 dish).
>
>
>Rob wrote:
>
>> Tell 'em it's for TV. It'll take them YEARS to figure out what it really is
>> ;-)
>>
>> -- Rob
>>
>> "Bud the Real" <the...@san.rxyzr.com> wrote in message
>> news:52j1ps06nrbrnmiu7...@4ax.com...
>> > "Rob" <do_not_dj...@mediaone.net> hollered from the outhouse...
>> >
>> > >Actually, it's illegal for a homeowners association to ban satellites.
>> If
>> > >I recall, it has something to do with keeping competition fair.
>> >
>> > For television, maybe. But I doubt you'd make a case for an Internet
>> dish.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >