NYNEX "Packet on D channel" charges?
Jeremy Greene
Anyone know if Bell Atlantic North (NYNEX) will allow X.25 packet data on the
D or B channels? I am wondering if I can use an ISDN line to connect to the
public X.25 network, for applications such as credit-card verifications,
travel reservations, etc. If this is available, is D-channel data free or is
it timed? Is there an additional monthly charge to activate this feature? Is
it available to residential customers?
Thanks,
-Jeremy
Brad Bennett
Jeremy Greene wrote:
>
> Anyone know if Bell Atlantic North (NYNEX) will allow X.25 packet data on the
> D or B channels? I am wondering if I can use an ISDN line to connect to the
> public X.25 network, for applications such as credit-card verifications,
> travel reservations, etc.
Jeremy:
Yes, Bell Atlantic offers D channel packet. Although I am unsure of
how Bell Atlantic bills for such service, it is normally billed
per kilopacket (where a packet is each 128 or fewer bytes). A
typical rate is something like $0.30 to $0.45 per kilopacket (which
isn't much for applications such as credit card authorization, where
a typical transaction is one or two packets). If your connection
to a travel service is via X.25, then you could also use D channel
packet for this connection but you should carefully consider the
overall usage. I was recently involved in an job which setup D
channel packet service for a number of stores in the Bell Atlantic
Area (the old NYNEX Region) for credit card authorization. Works
like a charm once we got the bugs out.
One main obstacle small business users face is getting their
credit card authorization service to give them the X.121 address
to the host. The X.121 address is the number you would setup in
your credit card authorization equipment/software in place of
a dial-up phone number. Many authorization services are very
protective of these numbers and are not willing to freely offer these
to small merchants (or it is difficult to find the group at
your credit card company that actually knows the X.121 address).
I should also tell you that setting up D channel packet is one of the
most troublesome services to get working correctly...especially
if you are the first in the Central Office to request such service.
Bell Atlantic has to first build the X.75' trunks to their Public
Data Network (X.25 PDN), and make sure that your choice of
long distance packet carriers has POP for this switch (your choice
of a DNIC, e.g. 3134 for AT&T Accunet). Not trying to scare you
off...just want to make sure you understand the realities here.
Best Regards,
Brad Bennett
Quicomm
http://www.quicomm.com
Brad Bennett
David Abrams
FWIW,
At one of last year's network shows in Boston, (maybe the year before it was
still NYNEX then) NYNEX was showing always on ISDN and when I asked them
they claimed the D channel was a flat rate of (I think) $9/month.
David Abrams
Galactic Industries Corp
395 Main Street
Salem, NH 03079
(603) 898-7600 x304 (Voice)
(603) 898-6228 (FAX)
d...@galactic.com
http://www.galactic.com
Jeremy Greene wrote in message <34F0DB2C...@earthlink.net>...
>Anyone know if Bell Atlantic North (NYNEX) will allow X.25 packet data on
the
>D or B channels? I am wondering if I can use an ISDN line to connect to the
>public X.25 network, for applications such as credit-card verifications,
Garry W
"David Abrams" <d...@galactic.com.nospam> wrote:
>At one of last year's network shows in Boston, (maybe the year before it was
>still NYNEX then) NYNEX was showing always on ISDN and when I asked them
>they claimed the D channel was a flat rate of (I think) $9/month.
We discuss this here regularly. A number of phone companies have established
tariffs for "AO/DI" service. Basically, unmetered "Always On" D channel
service for people like us.
Unfortunately, as far as anyone here seems to know, no phone company in the
U.S. has begun offering the actual service yet. Start dates keep
disappearing.
garry
Randall C.
See my post in this group "X25 packet data"
A little while back I posted that I had confirmed with BA in Mass that
they not only offered X25 over the D channel but there was no additional
charges (from them anyway) for it's use. I was not asking about a
business line so there my be a difference for this.
In my case I was trying to find an ISP that would handle e-mail service
over the x25. I have already found a TA and e-mail server that will
handle this, so I'm told.
So does anyone know of an ISP that can do this? Speed isn't an issue,
it's only e-mail.
David Abrams wrote:
>
> FWIW,
>
> At one of last year's network shows in Boston, (maybe the year before it was
> still NYNEX then) NYNEX was showing always on ISDN and when I asked them
> they claimed the D channel was a flat rate of (I think) $9/month.
>
> David Abrams
> Galactic Industries Corp
> 395 Main Street
> Salem, NH 03079
> (603) 898-7600 x304 (Voice)
> (603) 898-6228 (FAX)
> d...@galactic.com
> http://www.galactic.com
>
> Jeremy Greene wrote in message <34F0DB2C...@earthlink.net>...
> >Anyone know if Bell Atlantic North (NYNEX) will allow X.25 packet data on
> the
> >D or B channels? I am wondering if I can use an ISDN line to connect to the
> >public X.25 network, for applications such as credit-card verifications,
> >travel reservations, etc. If this is available, is D-channel data free or
> is
> >it timed? Is there an additional monthly charge to activate this feature?
> Is
> >it available to residential customers?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Jeremy
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Systems Engineer (LAN/WAN,ISDN PRI/BRI,T1,VideoConferencing)
E-mail rco...@acstech.com
Phone: (781)449-3377 ext.283
Fax: (781)453-2416
Fred R. Goldstein
In article <34fba466.152295687@nntp-server>, gne...@ithaca.com says...
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>"David Abrams" <d...@galactic.com.nospam> wrote:
>>At one of last year's network shows in Boston, (maybe the year before it was
>>still NYNEX then) NYNEX was showing always on ISDN and when I asked them
>>they claimed the D channel was a flat rate of (I think) $9/month.
Yeah, it was Networks Expo, held every January or February in Boston for years.
But I think last year was the last one; it really shriveled up to a shadow of
its former (when it licensed the "Networld" name) self. Cute NYNEX booth, with
product manager Mike Vallone showing off AO/DI. However, that was pre-merger.
NYNEX ist fur todt.
They were talking about *requesting* a flat rate for D-channel packet. It
didn't happen. So packets are free if you think 55 cents/kilosegmentis free.
For anything more voluminous than point-of-sale, I think it's way costly.
--
Fred R. Goldstein k1io fgoldstein"at" bbn.com +1 617 873 3850
Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission.
David Abrams
Fred,
Thanks for the update. Actually I plan to bolt ISDN the millisecond
something better comes along. Unfortunately after talking to RCN (lets
bring down the old empire so we can build a new one with us getting the
cash) I am not too hopeful it will happen soon. Maybe I will just buy a T1
and resell it on Beacon Hill.
David
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