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Jeff Liebermann

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May 30, 2002, 10:40:13 AM5/30/02
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Ever notice that advertisements for computers in magazines never show
any wires or cables? Ad agencies apparently go through considerable
effort to hide or erase all cables and wires. Even the mouse is often
shown without an attached cable. Obviously, manufacturers consider
wiring to be a seriously offensive sales impediment, ugly, or both.

This hatred of cables and wires is apparently universal and has
resulted in the formation of the Bluetooth organization, who's sole
purpose is to precipitate the demise of cabling and wiring. With 1700
member companies, this is obviously a serious conspiracy against all
wiring.

The real extent of this conspiracy was not apparent to me until I was
involved in putting a network back together for a customer. Pictures,
for the annual report, of their palatial offices were deeemed
seriously flawed by the highly visible presence of cables. No sooner
had management suggested removing the cables, major parts of the
office network were disassembled and removed from view. Considering
the amount of time lost recovering from this exercise, I suspect that
management considers visible wires to be a major embarrassment.

Even slang has taken to debasing wiring. A drug user, in a
disfunctional state, is said to be "wired". Any other industry would
consider this an insult, but the cabling and wiring business doesn't
even recognize the problem.

What has the cable and wiring industry done to protect itself?
Nothing. I see no organization to counter the threat of the Bluetooth
wireless conspiracy. I see no boycott of computer manufacturers that
fail to display their cabling. I see no cabling awareness campaigns
by industry organizations. I see no "cables are good" promotional
advertising to balance the threat of wireless.

Discussions with people in the wiring business can run for hours on
the merits of various acronyms, or the intricacies of fastening
systems. Yet, when confronted by the obvious threat to the general
acceptance of cabling, they just shrug and claim it's not a problem.
Awareness is seriously lacking here.

Therefore, I suggest that we individually promote the acceptance and
importance of cabling and wiring at every opportunity. Further I
suggest that we boycott any product that fails to display cables and
wires in all their glory. Otherwise, we may find cabling and wiring
following the same paths that led to the demise of the mechanical
calculator, slide rule, and passibly the dinosaurs.


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Moi

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May 30, 2002, 12:43:03 PM5/30/02
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Jeff Liebermann <je...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in
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> the amount of time lost recovering from this exercise, I suspect that
> management considers visible wires to be a major embarrassment.

Try walking round the office with you wire hanging out the front of your
trousers and see how embarrassed they get.

Robert R Kircher, Jr.

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May 30, 2002, 12:49:40 PM5/30/02
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Personally...

I think you have WAAAYYYYY too much time on your hands.


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Albert Hennesy

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May 30, 2002, 12:57:29 PM5/30/02
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"Jeff Liebermann" wrote:
> This hatred of cables and wires is apparently universal and has
> resulted in the formation of the Bluetooth organization, who's sole
> purpose is to precipitate the demise of cabling and wiring. With 1700
> member companies, this is obviously a serious conspiracy against all
> wiring.

People hate clutter, especially housewives. Until security becomes
as worrisome to them as clutter is today, wireless will make headway.
I think the best two arguments for hardwiring is communication speed
and security, and the cabling industry should harp on them. Development
of attractive raceways, especially for retrofitting, would also help a lot.


Al_Hennesy


James Knott

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May 30, 2002, 4:02:09 PM5/30/02
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Robert R Kircher, Jr. wrote:

> Personally...
>
> I think you have WAAAYYYYY too much time on your hands.
>

Perhaps he "works" for the government. ;-)

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Jeff Liebermann

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May 31, 2002, 1:15:33 AM5/31/02
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On Thu, 30 May 2002 12:49:40 -0400, "Robert R Kircher, Jr."
<rrki...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Personally...
>I think you have WAAAYYYYY too much time on your hands.

Sorta. I'm suppose to be recovering (loafing) from some surgery and
doing whatever people do for vacation. However, this was the result
of warm temperatures and high humidity making it difficult to sleep.
So, I decided to turn on the computer, read some usenet news, and
contribute to the general mayhem. It's kinda scarey what I can
accomplish when I'm not interrupted by the usual ringing phones,
pagers, cell phones, email, meeting, etc.

I'm thumbing through some random Gateway, Micron, and Dell catalogs.
Lots of computer systems, but the only wires visible are from the
mouse. What do they have against wiring?

What originally inspired this was an advertisement for some computer
system, showing the usual smiling faces crowded around the computer,
which has part of the rear panel visible. Not one single wire in
sight. Not even a power cord. However, I can't seem to recall where
I saw the advertisement.

Sigh. So many conspiracies. So little time...

Michael A. Terrell

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May 31, 2002, 3:40:46 AM5/31/02
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The first ad I saw with a computer without the cables was from
Compuserve in the 80's. A guy is on a motorcycle with a Commodore 64.
The entire computer club thought it was quite stupid, and most members
decided it was an insult to their intelligence so they found different
online services.

Mike O'Donnell

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May 31, 2002, 10:24:32 AM5/31/02
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The conspiracy is beyond just computers..

I was glancing through a "business furniture" catalog I received (after
reading you post). They had all the pretty pictures of the executive desks,
all impressively outfitted with phone, fax, computer, large calculator &
lamp. Not ONE had any cables, even the telephone. I figured they just
routed the wires neatly, but you could see the "knock out" plates on the top
of the desk, there were no wires going into them.


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Albert Hennesy

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May 31, 2002, 12:28:53 PM5/31/02
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"Mike O'Donnell" wrote:
> The conspiracy is beyond just computers..
>
> I was glancing through a "business furniture" catalog I received (after
> reading you post). They had all the pretty pictures of the executive desks,
> all impressively outfitted with phone, fax, computer, large calculator &
> lamp. Not ONE had any cables, even the telephone. I figured they just
> routed the wires neatly, but you could see the "knock out" plates on the top
> of the desk, there were no wires going into them.


I think the "conspiracy" is due to ignorant photographers. I have had a
lifelong disgust for their cropping of dancers' lower bodies - beit ballroom
dancing or disco or ice dancing or freestyle skating. They always crop
tightly to show closeups of the performers' faces as if footwork didn't matter.
It never occurs to them that the performance is the message, not the look on
the performers' faces. Similarly, it never occurs to them that good professional
wiring can actually be attractive, even beautiful if done right.


Al_Hennesy


Splanche

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May 31, 2002, 4:37:54 PM5/31/02
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>Similarly, it never occurs to them that good professional
>wiring can actually be attractive, even beautiful if done right.
>
>
>Al_Hennesy

Yes, but those of us that can see the beauty in wiring are an odd,
misunderstood bunch. I remember the first time I saw siamesed copper and
fiber--back when Mohawk first launched theirs. I was describing it to a
technician and referred to it as a "really PRETTY cable." He laughed and said,
"Pretty? why, was it PINK?"
Some people will NEVER understand!!

- Blanche

Lizard Blizzard

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May 31, 2002, 8:52:36 PM5/31/02
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> Ever notice that advertisements for computers in magazines never show
> any wires or cables?

[snip]

Jeff, you forgot to throw in the conspiracy theory between the battery
companies and the equipment manufacturers. They're out to make the
consumer use more batteries. Wireless stuff has to have some invisible
means of power!

Lizard Blizzard

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May 31, 2002, 8:54:26 PM5/31/02
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"Robert R Kircher, Jr." wrote:

> Personally...

> I think you have WAAAYYYYY too much time on your hands.


But, but, you _read_ his diatribe, so you're partly to blame too.


> --

> Rob

> "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
> news:9gbcfu4th8pasb8hr...@4ax.com...
> > Ever notice that advertisements for computers in magazines never show
> > any wires or cables?

[snip]

Lizard Blizzard

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May 31, 2002, 8:56:01 PM5/31/02
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
[snip]

> which has part of the rear panel visible. Not one single wire in
> sight. Not even a power cord. However, I can't seem to recall where
> I saw the advertisement.

Probably Radio Scrap.

Robert R Kircher, Jr.

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May 31, 2002, 9:12:48 PM5/31/02
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Ahhhhh no, see you made an assumption that you shouldn't have. I only
skimmed the first few lines when I realized that Jeff had very little to do
and was "thinking" entirely too much.

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Watson A.Name

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Jun 1, 2002, 8:54:54 AM6/1/02
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In article <ad972h$sco$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, rrki...@hotmail.com
says...

> Ahhhhh no, see you made an assumption that you shouldn't have. I only
> skimmed the first few lines when I realized that Jeff had very little to do
> and was "thinking" entirely too much.
>
> --
>
> Rob

You posted a followup which shows that his diatribe was getting
attention. If had really been true that he had too much time, then
people would have ignored his post like a panhandler in the street.
Tsk-tsk.


> "Lizard Blizzard" <NOS...@rsccd.org> wrote in message
> news:3CF81B42...@rsccd.org...
> >
> >
> > "Robert R Kircher, Jr." wrote:
> >
> > > Personally...
> >
> > > I think you have WAAAYYYYY too much time on your hands.
> >
> >
> > But, but, you _read_ his diatribe, so you're partly to blame too.
> >
> >
> > > --
> >
> > > Rob
> >
> > > "Jeff Liebermann" <je...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
> > > news:9gbcfu4th8pasb8hr...@4ax.com...
> > > > Ever notice that advertisements for computers in magazines never show
> > > > any wires or cables?
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
> > > > (831)421-6491 pgr (831)426-1240 fax (831)336-2558 home
> > > > http://www.LearnByDestroying.com WB6SSY
> > > > je...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us je...@cruzio.com
>
>
>

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Jun 1, 2002, 9:43:22 AM6/1/02
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"Watson A.Name" <alond...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ad972h$sco$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, rrki...@hotmail.com
> says...
> > Ahhhhh no, see you made an assumption that you shouldn't have. I only
> > skimmed the first few lines when I realized that Jeff had very little to
do
> > and was "thinking" entirely too much.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rob
>
> You posted a followup which shows that his diatribe was getting
> attention. If had really been true that he had too much time, then
> people would have ignored his post like a panhandler in the street.
> Tsk-tsk.
>


Ah yes, but apparently you also have too much time as well because you not
only know his post was a diatribe, but you also have time to read through
the thread in order to make a reply to my post.

tsk-tsk.

If you notice, until challenged on the issue, I made only one tongue and
cheek comment, yet three different posters replied to my comment and more
than a fair share posted direct replies to the original post. Now I ask you
who has too much time on their hands?

Oh and instead of directing your comments towards me, who only made a small
comment in jest, you should turn your efforts to the many who replied in a
more serious (or long winded) manor. I submit that those folks are the ones
who gave the original post *legitimate* attention, and if you look closely,
a couple of the replies are from regulars in the group.

<g>

HTH
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Rob

Jeff Liebermann

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Jun 1, 2002, 11:43:20 AM6/1/02
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On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 12:54:54 GMT, Watson A.Name
<alond...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>You posted a followup which shows that his diatribe was getting
>attention. If had really been true that he had too much time, then
>people would have ignored his post like a panhandler in the street.
>Tsk-tsk.

Usenet does not work that way. The number of replies is inversely
proportional to the value of the original posting. It is much easier
to comment on trivia, where facts and numbers are optional, than on
important issues. The largest and longest discussions have been over
the most inane topics.

If nobody had replied to my posting, I would have been gratified to
know that I had written something to which none could think of
anything to add, criticize, or improve. The perfect posting receives
no followups, is read by everyone, and is usually forwarded to
numerous mailing lists. I've been there many times in the past.

6520 postings and climbing.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author%3Ajeffl%40comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
Ugh!

Watson A.Name

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Jun 8, 2002, 9:55:06 PM6/8/02
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In article <adaj1q$92q$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>, rrki...@hotmail.com
says...

Hey, if the foo sh!ts.. BTW, manor is a house. Manner is the word
you're looking for. That's the second time I've seen that boo-boo
today. Another one was here
http://www.sbs-
forum.org/marcom/winter01/New%20Smart%20Battery%20Arch%20for%20Noteboo
ks.PDF
Sorry about the line wrap. It's a technical paper and really
shouldn't have that kind of error.


> HTH
> --
>
> Rob

Nukie Poo

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Jun 9, 2002, 7:27:39 PM6/9/02
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Kind of reminds me of the flyers utilities used to publish about their new
nuclear plants back in the early seventies. They would airbrush-out the
stack from the cover page photo of the plant.


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J. Clarke

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Jun 10, 2002, 1:49:33 PM6/10/02
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In article <LvRM8.5373$gs4....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
paul.a....@verizon.net says...

> Kind of reminds me of the flyers utilities used to publish about their new
> nuclear plants back in the early seventies. They would airbrush-out the
> stack from the cover page photo of the plant.

Stack? What stack? You mean the cooling tower?

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Nukie Poo

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Jun 10, 2002, 8:44:34 PM6/10/02
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The ventilation stack - looks like a smoke stack. Most newer nukes have
stacks that go no higher than the containment building so people won't
notice them and ask "what comes out of that stack?"

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