Sybase, GUIs and character mode: HELP

[Luisa Ribeiro]

Hi!

I would like some opinions on this, even if some of these products are quite recent.

We will have Sybase as a server. On the client side, things are not so clear. Some clients are not very demanding. In fact, they might be only character mode terminals. But other clients might include PC's running Windows, Mac's and even SUN's with Openwindows.

ALL kinds of clients need to have some basic services, which is the reason why we need an app. which generates the SAME interface to all clients.

On the other hand, we want to provide sophisticated GUI apps. to the clients who can support it, namely all but the character mode terminals. But the need to generate to character mode terminals and to so many different platforms will considerably constraint the number and quality of features developed.

We are considering to develop a basic app. with APT (what about XVT?), and to support some advanced features with Gain or Build Momentum. It would have to be possible, though, for APT to call Gain or Build.

Eventually all clients will become graphical, but until then we have to provide some basic services to all.

All comments appreciated. Thanks in advance,

LUISA.

Luisa Ribeiro, from the Lisbon Stock Exchange (Bolsa de Valores de Lisboa)

lu...@mercury.bvl.pt

"Speaking for myself!"

[David Benua]

I'd recommend not using APT. There are only two products that I know of
that work across all of the platforms and provide both character and GUI.

JAM from JYACC, Inc - 116 John St, New York, NY 10038 USA. Tel: 212-267-7722
Fax: 212-608-6753. They have distributors in various European countries.

Uniface - UNIFACE International, Hogehilweg 16, 1101 CD Amsterdam,
The Netherlands +31-20-6976644 Fax: +31-20-6912912. They also have
a big operation in California, but Amsterdam is the Headquarters.

These two products are about as different as you can get. JAM is a
programming environment. You can create routines with a mixture of Graphic
tools and programming in a script language, or drop to C where you need
to.

Uniface is an application generator. You specify the application schema, the
database schema, etc. all at a fairly high level, and it builds the
application for you. It all depends are on whether you are procedure
driven or database driven.

Neither product, in my opinion, is gives you as much control over the
"look and feel" of the resulting application as you'd really want. JAM
apps look like JAM apps. This is part of what you give up in exchange
for portability. If you have further questions feel free to email me.

Dave Benua
dbe...@panix.com

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[Fabien Roy]

In article <1993Nov26....@bvl.pt> lu...@bvl.pt (Luisa Ribeiro)
writes:

Look at last announcement of OPENSTEP between SUN and NEXT.
Things are changing.
Take a look at DBKit on NEXTSTEP.

As a Sybase Var we trained the developers at the french ministry of
Interieur to do custom Apps using object oriented tools over Sybase.
And they are developing faster and faster!

Feel free to contact us at the address below.

--Fabien
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Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering
3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France,
Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641

[Steve Griffin]

DB->JAM from JYACC, Inc - 116 John St, New York, NY 10038 USA. Tel: 212-267-77
DB->Fax: 212-608-6753. They have distributors in various European countries.

DB->Uniface - UNIFACE International, Hogehilweg 16, 1101 CD Amsterdam,
DB->The Netherlands +31-20-6976644 Fax: +31-20-6912912. They also have
DB->a big operation in California, but Amsterdam is the Headquarters.

What about Sapiens SmartStar ?
We just started using it, VMS GUI cross platform Motif, etc
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[Joel Friedman]

In article 2...@panix.com, dbe...@panix.com (David Benua) writes:
->
<Original post deleted>

->I'd recommend not using APT. There are only two products that I know of
->that work across all of the platforms and provide both character and GUI.
->
->JAM from JYACC, Inc - 116 John St, New York, NY 10038 USA. Tel: 212-267-7722
->Fax: 212-608-6753. They have distributors in various European countries.
->
->Uniface - UNIFACE International, Hogehilweg 16, 1101 CD Amsterdam,
->The Netherlands +31-20-6976644 Fax: +31-20-6912912. They also have
->a big operation in California, but Amsterdam is the Headquarters.
->
->These two products are about as different as you can get. JAM is a
->programming environment. You can create routines with a mixture of Graphic
->tools and programming in a script language, or drop to C where you need
->to.
->
->Uniface is an application generator. You specify the application schema, the
->database schema, etc. all at a fairly high level, and it builds the
->application for you. It all depends are on whether you are procedure
->driven or database driven.
->
->Neither product, in my opinion, is gives you as much control over the
->"look and feel" of the resulting application as you'd really want. JAM
->apps look like JAM apps. This is part of what you give up in exchange
->for portability. If you have further questions feel free to email me.
->
->Dave Benua
->dbe...@panix.com
->
->
->--
->David Benua Internet: dbe...@panix.com
-> Compu$erve: 72630,1416
->

There is another.....Unify's Accell. David's last comment is also true
for this product.

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