Re: Google (was RFD: comp.databases.postgresql.*)
Woodchuck Bill
news:e385q09i20k6853s9...@4ax.com:
> I have not checked that out, but am very pleased to hear it.
Have a look..
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&group=comp.databases.postgresql
Just goes to show you, there are things that can be done about rogue
groups. I'm sure that there are others servers that would do the same if
they were made aware that the PostgreSQL groups were bogus.
Have you looked at the control messages for those groups? Most of them were
sent by a forger of tale..that *is* net abuse. Sending control messages for
rogue groups may not be considered net abuse if the creator does it in his
own name, but to forge the name and address of the hierarchy manager is
serious abuse to me.
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For your newsgroups file:
comp.databases.postgresql.patches Patches for Postgress.
Meow!
David C Lawrence
> Thank you, Google, if you have changed your policies.
Yes, they appear to be more responsive and reactive to complaints. They
have even reinstated the posting host IP in their outgoing news articles,
added reference headers, and now allow the poster to set a follow-up group
on crossposted articles. Applause!
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Bill
Woodchuck Bill
news:m2r7mk2...@gulch.intamission.com:
> Interesting. Does this affect anyone's views on the group name
> (yes, I'm looking at you, Ms. Morgan) or is the feeling that existing
> users wouldn't switch to a new name, even if it were archived by
> Google?
If they were to start their own hierarchy postgresql.*, they could keep all
21 of the groups, all of the groups would be available upon request to news
servers around the world, Google would pick them up again in a heartbeat,
they would not need to pass a vote, and PostgreSQL would have even more
prestige by having a dedicated net news hierarchy.
Even if they were to be moved to alt.comp.*, they would be legitimate and
available by request, no vote required, back in Google, and they could keep
all 21 of the groups. But no, our defiant list owner prefers to be stubborn
and keep things the way they are, which has already resulted in
fragmentation of his rogue hierarchy as Google has dropped them, and other
servers will probably follow now that the rogue nature of these groups is
being more publicized due to this RFD.
Something to think about, Marc.
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Bill