I had three (3) posts to this Group vanish into the Black Hole today...

obsolete_john

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Jan 6, 2006, 2:18:20 PM1/6/06

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Does this happen often?? The problem is they were way too brilliant &
clever to try to recreate word for word...

Obsolete_John

Ross Ferris

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Jan 7, 2006, 3:18:45 AM1/7/06

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I had the same thing happen to me (maybe not the brilliant bit) - some
turned up, some went "properly". Result is that I have 2 (similar)
responses in some threads, and others are still missing

Mike Preece

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Jan 7, 2006, 8:23:27 AM1/7/06

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obsolete_john wrote:

Tony?

;-)

Simon Verona

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Jan 7, 2006, 9:56:49 AM1/7/06

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This is often caused by news servers not propogating posts back to their
master...

You will read this newgroup via the nntp protocol (even if you are using a
web browser to read it there is some nntp going on somewhere). You will
receive posts and send posts to a local newsgroup server. This will
regularly synchronise posts with a parent news server which will do the same
back to the root server for the group.

New posts therefore propogate back up and then back down to all other
servers - just image leaves and tree - with the internet being the
trunk/branches and the news servers being the leaves.

It's not too difficult to imagine a news server going a bit mad and not
sending new posts back up the branch (to continue the imagery) or sending
them on with a delay. This used to be a big problem several years ago
where news servers would "lag" and news postings got choronologically
jumbled up for people reading the group in "real time".

I've oversimplified things a little, but thats the basic problem.

Not that it helps you, but if you contine to have problems, then sometimes
switching to another public news server should help.

Simon
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Scott Ballinger

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Jan 7, 2006, 3:25:39 PM1/7/06

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obsolete_john wrote:
> Does this happen often?? The problem is they were way too brilliant &
> clever to try to recreate word for word...

Don't know about other newsgroup readers but... I use thunderbird and/or
outlook, which keep copies of my posts in the "sent" folder.

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006

Tony Gravagno

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Jan 7, 2006, 9:40:58 PM1/7/06

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You guys are ALL using GoogleGroups for Usenet. Please refer to many
prior discussions on this topic - Google is not Usenet. CDP is not a
Google forum.

Usenet like SMTP/email is not a managed or verified-delivery protocol.
There is no guarantee that messages will ever be received by any given
server. Some systems lose their feed and other people never know that
they didn't see your posting. Some messages can be delayed by a
factor of days if some server holding your transactions is down.

Welcome to The Net, where we all apply modern expectations to 20 year
old protocols.

T

dawn

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Jan 7, 2006, 8:32:08 AM1/7/06

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Me too. I was thinking it was the google groups interface I was using,
but perhaps usenet burped. Sorry to miss your clever responses. I
will only claim my were clever as long as they remain missing. smiles.
--dawn

Jeff Caspari

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Jan 8, 2006, 7:56:11 AM1/8/06

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>
> Welcome to The Net, where we all apply modern expectations to 20 year
> old protocols.
>
> T
>

It's a good thing our economy is not dependent upon it (or our health:)
Jeff